The NY Times has exposed classified information on three separate occasions and must be prosecuted to prevent further violations.
The New York Times has once again escalated its Journalistic Jihad against the American people, proving beyond all doubt that the Times' personal interests violently clash with America's public interest.…
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— go to most recent comments26 - Nancy
George W. Bush better get down on his knees and thank God every second of the day that a) the bare majority of the American electorate is so goddamn dumb they'll swallow any lie they're given as long as the scumbag lying to them claims to be President of the US, and will accept any violation of their rights on his say-so; and b) that he's protected (for the moment at least - hopefully, that will change come November) by an equally mendacious, lying pack of power-mad weasels in congress. I don't know which is worse: the cupidity & evil of congress & the administration, or the stupidity & gullibility of the American voter.
27 - JustOneMan
WARNING FLAMING ANTI-SEMITE IN POST #23
Hey Richard Brodie who do you hate more the Jews or George Bush? Tough one.....
28 - sr
nancy, think the stupidity & gullibility award is all yours and CNN is your god. Please tell me you dont vote so we can all have some peace of mind.
Hope all you want. Come November you lose.
Just keep swallowing CNN or what ever you like to swallow.
29 - JustOneMan
Nancy Pelosi better get down on his knees and thank God every second of the day that a) the the brain dead left louie minority of the Dumbocratic Party electorate is so goddamn dumb they'll swallow any lie they're given as long as the scumbag lying to them claims to be a Dumbocrat, and will give away any and all or their freedom and protection because it will bash Bush; and b) that as long as we keep following the Michael Moron and Howie Dean playbook that we will guarantee a loss of as many Dumbocrats come November) by an equally mendacious, lying pack of power-mad weasels in the Dumbocratic party. I don't know which is worse: the idea of EGore running for president or the thought or waking up in bed with Nancy after a hard night of drinking.....
30 - Sylvia Muffaleto
check out countdown on msnbc and you'll see the website, which I've placed in the URL, and the magazine devoted to SWIFT. Then get back to me on how secret this plan was that Bush has been publicly discussing since 9/11.
31 - sr
JustOneMan. Waking up with nancy pussylosi. Please allow me to vomit. Drink or no drink. That would be worse then naked pictures of FAT ROSEY O.
I like dumbocrat. Every time I see some fool with a bumper sticker that says, IM PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT IT'S THE SAME AS CALLING THEMSELVES STUPID OR A DUMBOCRAT. Did see on the AP that michae, howie and pussylosi are a threesome, If you know what I mean. Now thats a real freak show.
32 - JP
And it's remarkable how many people don't seem to understand that a declaration of war is not necessary for the deployment of troops when it's authorized by congress under a document like the AUMF. If you have a problem with Bush's actions in Iraq, take it up with congress which gave him the authority and just recently voted overwhelmingly to continue the deployment.
But Dave, that doesn't make it a war. Military operation, yes, but not a war. Many Americans, myself included, dispute the administration's claims to nearly unchecked Executive power based upon "Wartime," when we're not in a war.
33 - JustOneMan
Sylvia...dont make us work to make your point...why dont you post an idea rather than a link to a link....
PS Is MSNBC still on the air...ohhhh so your the person who is watching it...
34 - Sylvia Muffaleto
"Sylvia...dont make us work to make your point"
I prefer people actually did their own research and came to conclusions for themselves. [Personal attack deleted. Sylvia, welcome to Blogcritics. I think refreshing your understanding of the comments policy would be a good idea. NOW. Thanks. Comments Editor]
35 - Bliffle
"Bliffle, about 80% of the Democrats supported the president in the recent vote, so that's hardly just compliant republicans. "
Nevertheless, the initiative for the Iraq Invasion was GWBs. Lacking the admin push, it would not have happened.
36 - JustOneMan
SillyVIA....I think you should take a deep breath...calm down and call your doctor in the morning to have your medication adjusted...all I was sayin is that rather than just copy the links from the Howard Dean Playbook...I think they instructed you guys to rewrite the script in your own words so it doesnt look so obvious...
OK Siliva!
37 - Richard Brodie
WARNING FLAMING ANTI-SEMITE IN POST #23
Hey Richard Brodie who do you hate more the Jews or George Bush?
All I said was let's protect our own borders before trying to protect those of Iraq and Israel. How is that anti-semitic? Arabs and Jews are two warring semitic tribes. It's not worth one precious drop of American blood to get in the middle of their perpetual squabbles. I wish they could figure out how to get along with each other. But they can't. And that should not be America's problem - especially not to the extent of bankrupting our treasury over it.
So to answer your question, I don't hate the Jewish race nor any of its individual members, though I do hate the way Zionist Jews have succeeded putting themselves in charge of setting America's foreign policy - which is right now leading us straight into a war with Iran.
And I don't hate George Bush personally. The following will, however, tell you how much I hate Bush's policies:
When Bush's "comprehensive" immigration "reform" results in amnesty and citizenship for 12 (probably more like 20 or 30) million aliens, in all probability these illegals will be allowed to start out with a totally clean criminal record - one which will contain no mention of them having broken our Federal immigration laws.
By contrast, OUR OWN AMERICAN children, who may have had a "controlled substance" possession charge or two when they were just coming out of childhood, will have to carry that anchor around their necks for the rest of their lives.
They will be subjected to DOUBLE JEOPARDY, essentially being retried and sentenced to costly, interminable "criminal background check" delays, every time they need to apply for a contractors license, certain kinds of jobs, etc. (The Magna Carta did away with this kind of thing when it outlawed EXCESSIVE FINES DEPRIVING A PERSON OF HIS LIVELIHOOD.)
They will be denied their right to PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE, by being required to "explain" or "justify" their youthful transgressions, provide "proof of rehabilitation", etc. - essentially having to prove their innocence OVER AND OVER AGAIN for the duration of the ONE HUNDRED YEARS that State DOJs keep all this dirt on file after a person has ALREADY served their time, handed over their fines, and otherwise paid off their "debt to society."
Mark my word, the most treasonous traitor ever to occupy the office of President of the United States WILL GIVE this kind of first class preferential treatment to children of the citizens of OTHER COUNTRIES, while doing NOTHING about the CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT that the children of AMERICAN CITIZENS are subjected to as a result of an abrogation of the most important FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES OF JURISPRUDENCE upon which our civilization has operated since King John signed the Magna Charta.
38 - JustOneMan
Brodie....these are quotes straight from David Duke!
"Zionist Jews have succeeded putting themselves in charge of setting America's foreign policy"
So how do you feel about the Jewish controlled media? Hmmmmm.....
If defense of your anti-semitism "me thinks though protesteth too much"
And again please remember to rewrite in your own words the Dumbocrat talking points out of Howard Deans Play Book--"the most treasonous traitor ever to occupy the office of President of the United States" is starting to sound like a broker record..
PS Have a good Klan meeting!
39 - SFC SKI
For a few hundred U.S. dollars, some Iraqis will plant an IED or attack US personnel. The money to come from somewhere, and programs like this helped cut off that funding. In an effort to get a scoop, the NYT released yet more information that could endanger US personnel.
40 - JustOneMan
SFC Ski...but according to the NYT it's in Americans best interest...hmmmm
I think the real reason is due to the fact that their advertsing revenue has plummeted over the past few years they are seeking to place ads from terrorist groups seeking donations to support their efforts to kill Americans!
41 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
Richard,
It would be wonderful if we Israelis controlled the American foreign policy. But we don't - it's the other way round. It's a shame you can't see the truth before you, but nu? Ma la'asót - what's to be done?
I won't waste bandwidth arguing with you.
42 - JustOneMan
Ruvy...dont wast your breath on him...its obvious from his post besides being an avid David Duke supporter he seems to equate Bush with drugs laws that have been on the books since the 1970's...
Children Read #37...this your mind on drugs....
43 - Richard Brodie
JustOneChild ... It is your evasion, and your pitiful attempt to escape from having to address specifics, by resorting to the typical "broken record" arsenal of logical fallacies, that is in need of a "rewriting in your own words."
Anyway, thanks for referencing my post by number. I'm quite content to have people compare and notice the cogency and clarity of my presentation in contrast to your own childish name-calling.
44 - tommyd
I support Richard Brodie's stance. His right to free speech being supported by Blogcritics is to be commended. That's why I like posting here.
Also, what these pathetic Bush sycophants overlook (and don't care to consider) is that the alleged terrorists out there don't move money around by legitimate means. To think the US's bank spying program was compromised by the New York Times is the height of simple-mindedness. As if the omnipresent terrorists use Citibank to wire money from Bin Laden to some terrorist in the US or elswhere. Also, the Wall Street Journal and Financial Times both published the same story. Why not the ruckus over those newsrags? Oh, but of course, they're bootlickers of BushCo's Regime!!
It's like the US's phone-tapping programs. The controversy plays to the Right Wing fanatical base, but what these idiots can't grasp is that, again, the so-called hardcore terrorists don't communicate over land lines or cell phones. To think otherwise is just pretty dumb. Which, of course, isn't a surprise when considering the people who support George W Bush.
45 - Andy Marsh
Come on now tommyd...even your boy Murtha asked the times not to publish that story!
many of the terrorists may be smart enough to avoid the phone taps and the bank transaction thing...but OBVIOUSLY there are plenty of them that aren't that smart...
and again I ask...if it was as public as everyone keeps claiming it was then what made it news in the first place??? Other than the fact that the times didn't like it?
46 - gonzo marx
Andy, as has been pointed out many times, this EXACT program was made public by W in the weeks after 9/11
there were numerous references to it by W in press conferences, the WH press secretary from the podium, and other WH reps on the chat shows
in Ron Susskind's book "the One percent Doctrine", the entire program is outlined, from public sources...the book was written last year and just recently published, but all the info is there
SWIFT has a statement about it in their annual stock reports
on and on
this was even LESS secret than "Plame"...and where the CIA brought up her covert status...NO ONE has shown the documentation that this was a top secret classified program...
even the president's supeona's for the info from SWIFT are a matter of public record
so again, there is no "there" there..
except for the Rovian attack on the NYT
notice no one is hollering that the Wall Street Journal committed "treason"
but hey...the most important thing fo rour Government to be working on was th gay marriage bit last week, and flag burning this week...right?
Excelsior?
47 - Andy Marsh
but gonzo, I'm looking at it from the other side...if it's so public...what made the Times think it was newsworthy?
48 - Andy Marsh
It seems to me they did it for no other reason than to piss off the white house...
49 - gonzo marx
because of the Revelation that the vast majority of those records were gathered by executive supeona and NOT by a court ordered warrant
THAT is the "news" bit
try reading the article Bro, before you jump headfirst into the hype
Excelsior?
50 - zingzing
well, i'll go get married to a man and burn my flags before i read the new york times!
just kidding. i don't own any flags, am not attracted to men (and don't want to get married right now--tee-hee), and i don't really want to read the new york times... it's too long. and it makes my fingers all black and i have long hair right now, so i'm constantly stroking it and that just makes a mess. the "stroking it" refers to my hair.
51 - JustOneMan
Tommy... I agree...in America...even someone as twisted and hate filled as Brodie is free to spew their racist and anti-semitic nonsense...eventhough he and his ilk try and shout everyone down...
52 - zingzing
what? a conservative read the new york times?! NEVER! there's decency to uphold!
53 - Andy Marsh
I did read it gonzo...it says in the article
No such criminal activity was implied in the Times piece
Maybe I should have read something else? I keep asking where I'm supposed to get my unbiased reporting!
So...now...if you're gonna be a penis head about it!!!
54 - tommyd
Just One Man, I see you've done nothing to respond to the arguments of Richard Brodie but simply revert to the old and convenient "anti-semitic" card.
Let's hear you discuss AIPAC and it's undue influence on American politicians and foreign policy alike. Oh, right, you and the other "conservatives" are too busy screaming at the NY Times "liberal" bias to even notice that AIPAC even exists.
55 - JustOneMan
Tommie..if you would have followed the thread you would find that I was reacting to Broodies non-answers...
Hey let me bond with you guys...lets talk about the Jews controlling the media and the Jews controlling the all the banks...as well as the Jews controlling US foriegn policy...
You guys are cowards if you hat Jews so much stop hiding behing your liberal issues and throw some punche.
56 - Dave Nalle
Andy, as has been pointed out many times, this EXACT program was made public by W in the weeks after 9/11
To clarify this valid point which gonzo made earlier, the significance of what was in the NYT is at least in part that they included details of how pervasive and successful the tracking efforts of SWIFT have been. It goes far beyond the bare concept of the program and encompasses more data than the public or the terrorists may ever have imagined - thereby being much more effective as well.
Dave
57 - Dave Nalle
Zing, I read the NYT on Sundays.
And nice to see that TommyD is back to his John Bircher roots in #54 - sometimes we forget that he's so much more than just a cryptosocialist.
Dave
58 - zingzing
dave--are you admitting to being a conservative?!
HOLY FUCK. (to the admitting, not the actual admission.)
59 - zingzing
i had no idea that tommyd and richard brodie were liberals... is this what just one man is trying to say? not quite sure what i'm reading here.
60 - Richard Brodie
I support Richard Brodie's stance. His right to free speech being supported by Blogcritics is to be commended.
Thanks, Tommy. I don't even mind being personally villified by JOM - calling me a hate-filled, anti-semitic racist (contrast that to the worst I have called him - viz. "childish"). He simply reveals HIMSELF as the hater of people, as opposed to folks like myself who only hate abstracts (policies, actions, etc.)
Besides, how can being against certain Zionist activities even be considered anti-semitic? Arabs are the true modern day Semitic people. Israelites are descendants of NON-semitic converts to Judaism! The only REAL anti-semitism in the 21st Century would be Israelites being anti-Arab.
61 - tommyd
Zing, according to the Blog Critics Ministry of True Conservatives, a "liberal" is anyone who isn't a crypto-fascist Bush supporter.
JustOneMan, calling out that we "hate Jews" just because we QUESTION the disproportionate influence that Jewish lobbies have over America's foreign policy is THE reason why this country is embroiled in 2 wars and warmongering for more. You guys intimate that people who are against America's aggressive wars are, by default, "anti-semites" which, of course, has the effect of silencing dissenters. I just don't understand what you Neocons benefit by blindly supporting America's perpetual wars and crypto-police state.
62 - zingzing
i'm not sure that there is undue jewish influence behind bushco's war on the middle east, but i also don't know that questioning whether there is undue influence makes someone anti-semetic. or anti-jewish, whatever. i think white people have too much say. doesn't make me anti-white. i think men have too much say. doesn't make me anti-male. or even a feminist. but i will say that white male politicians almost all suck. then again, that's just politicians. and it's not really them that suck... it's politics... and it's not really politics, it's the game. it's not really the game either... it's that there are no known rules... and games need rules, especially if they involve bombs.
63 - tommyd
Point well taken, zing.
Our politicians are mostly white and mostly wicked. Through my research, AIPAC is the strongest most influential lobby in DC. Also highly influential are the military-industrial complex. Both of these lobbies further their agendas by war. And wars of aggression are no benefit whatsoever to the great majority of the unwashed masses. But I digress.....
....the fascist/totalitarian tendencies of BushCo should be obvious to all by now. Going after the press to keep them quiet or prosecute them is a grievous blow to the Constitution. And these "conservatives" railing about the "liberal" NY Times is ridiculous too. They forget that the NY Times diligently carried water for BushCo's war on Iraq, it's "investigation" into 9/11, and many other things. I mean, William Safire and David Brooks were writing pro-war after pro-war editorials in the Times for pete's sake!!!! What more do these Neocons want?
64 - JustOneMan
tommy..tommy... 'Israelites are descendants of NON-semitic converts to Judaism! The only REAL anti-semitism in the 21st Century would be Israelites being anti-Arab."
We all know that trying to change the definitions does not change the fact that what you are saying is simple...
1. Jews have too much power in the US
2. The Arab countries have the right to blow Israel off the face of the earth...
Hey its America if you want to believe that you have the right to...doesnt it make it rigt and doesnt diminish or devalue the opions of those of us who disagree with you...
65 - Nancy
Just out of curiousity, what Jews have too much power? Last time I looked, everyone in the WH, congress (with the exception of Lieberman), the Pentagon, & other power points, was white & "christian". Please provide a listing of this putative cabal of Jews? Honestly, I don't see any in the positions of power, so I don't see where you're talking about controlling Jews.
66 - JustOneMan
Nancy here are the names of Jews in the adminstration (current and previously in the administration) that have these guys goose stepping mad! Josh Bolton Chief of Staff
Paul Wolfowitz Deputy Secretary of Defense
Dov Zakheim Undersecretary of Defense (Controller)
Blake Gottesman President's personal aide
Michael Chertoff Head of the Justice Department's criminal division
Elliot Abrams - Director of the National Security Council's Office for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operations
Jeff Berkowitz White House Liaison to the Jewish Community and then office of presidential scheduling
Stuart Bernstein Ambassador to Denmark
Brad Blakemen White House Director of Scheduling
Nancy Brinker Ambassador to Hungary
Frank Lavin Ambassador to Singapore
Jay Lefkowitz Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council
Lewis Libby Chief of Staff to the Vice President
Ken Mehlman White House Political Director
John Miller Director, State Departement Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons
Mel Sembler Ambassador to Italy
Martin Silverstein Ambassador to Uruguay
Cliff Sobel Ambassador to the Netherlands
Mark D. Weinberg Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs
The list goes on.......
67 - gonzo marx
ya forgot Perle (a neocon who helped write the Iraq strategy)and Ari Fleischer (ex- press secretary)
just trying ta help
Excelsior?
68 - JustOneMan
Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.)*
Russell Feingold (D-Wisc.)*
Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)
Herb Kohl (D-Wisc.)
Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.)
Carl Levin (D-Mich.)
Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.)
Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.)*
Arlen Specter (R-Pa.)*
Paul Wellstone (D-Minn.)
Ron Wyden (D-Ore.)*
69 - JustOneMan
Thanks gonzo...
how could i have forgotten ari...hes one powerful jew,,,oi!
70 - tommyd
JustOneMan says: "tommy..tommy... 'Israelites are descendants of NON-semitic converts to Judaism! The only REAL anti-semitism in the 21st Century would be Israelites being anti-Arab."
JOM, you attribute a quote to me that I never made. I think that's Mr Brodie's quote. However, it is documented in history that the Khazars, an asiatic tribe, converted en masse to Judaism in the 7th or 8th Century because their king at the time declared that his people needed a religion to subdue their barbaric ways. They migrated through the Cacausus and settle in Russia and other parts of Europe.
But furthermore, I'm actually an admirer of the Jews. They represent a model to other racial groups on survival techniques and working together towards their own interests.
Secondly, I know for a fact (since I personally know at least a dozen Jewish people) that not all Jews are rabid warmongers nor are they all in together in some "cabal". No way do Jews think monolithically, but only some, and those "some" are quite powerful, just like our "Christian" leaders aren't representative of all Christians, it's just that these so-called "Christian" leaders happen to be very powerful.
The powerful Zionist Jews and the powerful Christian Americans both believe that in order for their respective "Messiahs" to come (first coming for the Jews, second coming for Christians), the land of ancient Israel must be populated with each and every Jew in the world and be populated ONLY by Jews. The destruction of the Dome of the Rock Mosque in Jerusalem is their goal, since the mosque sits upon where the ancient Solomon's Temple once occupied. The reconstruction of the Third Temple is the goal of both the Zionist and Christian Dispensationalist. This why there is no peace plan with the Palestinians and why the US invaded Iraq and threaten Iran.....to bring about Armageddon and the Rapture. So far, it seems their plans have hit a SNAFU due to the insurgency in Iraq.
But, you won't hear about this in the "liberal" New York Times.
Nancy, have you ever learned about the signatories to the Project For A New American Century?
71 - JustOneMan
So Nancy et al...to really see how foolish tommy and broodie sound change the word Jewish to black...hispanic...asian...GAY...blind...down syndrome...autsitic...etc...
the looney left has gone so far to the left they have come all the way around to be bigots and haters...while using politcally correct terms....
72 - JustOneMan
tommy you are funny in an archie bunker sort of wat here are your quotes
"I'm actually an admirer of the Jews."
"since I personally know at least a dozen Jewish people"
hehehe...gee some of my best friends are Jews...please
73 - tommyd
Sen Paul Wellstone was a good man. Died in a highly suspect plane crash not long after he publicly excoriated Bush on Bush's WMD fables and was set to vote against giving Bush war powers.
74 - tommyd
JOM, how else am I supposed to describe my friends that are Jewish? I name them as Jews as to make a point to you that I'm friends with many Jews and I also talk pretty freely about Israel/Palestine issues with them as well as other controversial issues. Also, my Jewish friends can be called "liberal" and fervently anti-war too. Since you hate "liberals" that makes you an indirect anti-semite!! See, how does that make you feel??
75 - gonzo marx
and i tossed out th elink for the neocon pnac.org over a year ago...
as a political thing..it's not apparently a jewish thing, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Jeb Bush are signatories as well...
again, trying to keep the record straight
Excelsior?