When the alternative is saying "yes" to the same old bad ideas, suddenly "no" becomes a very positive concept.
As the Republican minority in Congress refuses to cooperate with just about anything the Democrats put forward which involves expanding government programs and spending money which we don't have, they make themselves targets for the criticism that they are "the party of no" and that they have no positive policies and only want to block everything so that the Obama administration will look ineffective and the great spending machine will grind to a halt and nothing will get done.…
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176 - jeannie danna
cannonshop,
Did you look at the link in my response to your nuclear position? I have to give credit to A Stanly Thomposon's word, because he was in the program since it's beginning.
But I still need to know more about "closed-cycle nuclear research?
177 - jeannie danna
Clavos,I'll be back on-line in few hours. I would like to get this finished today.
178 - roger nowosielski
To follow up on #142, Baritone, here's a summary account of how the process of reconciliation has been routinely used to pass all manner of legislation.
179 - roger nowosielski
For full coverage of the summit, including live blog, see the following link.
180 - jeannie danna
Roger,
Why would a deconstructionist be this concerned with the working of our present government?
The reason they are not just going for reconciliation, is that they want to include all of us in this process.
181 - jeannie danna
I may not be happy with this bill in it's present form, and we are probably not going to see a public option, let alone the best choice, which is single payer.
It is crystal clear, that President Obama and his administration are doing a great job!
Especially, if you realize what would be happening if the Republicans were totally in charge of health care reform, nothing.
182 - roger nowosielski
The summit for for PR reasons mainly, to lay the cards on the table for the American public. It's not going to change any Republican hearts or minds.
Ultimately, it will be up to the Democrats to pass this legislation, if their nerve will hold up.
183 - jeannie danna
You should try to focus on less topics simultaneously, Roger. I am betting that you could probably fix our problem with health care by yourself.
I will have to say again, that this country is made up of many people from all walks of life. PR has nothing to do with it. It is the American people that want to see what is going on. Not, just the elitists.
I'm glad that they are all at, Blair House. This way we are also invited.
184 - jeannie danna
roger,
You'll have to read my next article. I'm sure you will have plenty to say on the topic.
185 - roger nowosielski
Whatever you say, Jeannie. I'm not in the mood to argue.
186 - jeannie danna
Roger,
I am speaking directly, without all the frills here. So, kindly don't take my directness as some sort of personal attack on you. I actually like you, although it might not appear that way.
My back is really hurting right now so I will break for a while. I wish that I could type laying down. :[
I even tried to figure out how, but I don't have a laptop. If I did it would be called a bedtop.
:]bye for now, Roger.
187 - jeannie danna
Roger,
Stop trying to pin that little argument word on me.
Woman also, can have strong opinions.
I really find it hard to tolerate double standards.
bye again.
188 - Mark
Rog #178, thanks for the link -- interesting history.
189 - Cindy
lol, a bedtop--that's good. :-)
190 - Baritone
As one gets older, entering her or his so called "golden years," one becomes aware that gravity is a bitch.
B
191 - roger nowosielski
Not to mention lucid thinking.
I've heard it somewhere that people don't really change with age. It's just that they become less attractive, because all their negatives which were rather concealed by the charm of youth are at long last allowed to run rampant.
192 - Cindy
Trying to explain yourself, Roger? My narrative runs in the opposite direction. :-)
(joke)
193 - roger nowosielski
I was talking about unthinking masses, Cindy. And that's no joke.
194 - roger nowosielski
But damn right it's true of me, too. I'd like to be more tolerant at times than I am.
I have to work on it.
195 - jeannie danna
Good dig roger, did you think that one up all by yourself?
How do rate here? Being able to call me unthinking? I bet we go toe to toe on every issue, I just don't use a thesaurus as much as you.
So please try to get over yourself. It's really tiring. And as far as looks go, I have never seen a picture of you.
:)very interesting.
196 - jeannie danna
Hi, Cindy,
Don't pay attention to the little man behind the curtain.
:]lol
197 - jeannie danna
Baritone,
There is no gravity, the earth sucks!
:) Hi, B. and Bye B.
198 - jeannie danna
Roger, How do you rate here? Now it's perfect.
199 - Cindy
B -
The trick is to always hang out with people older or much younger, but never your own age. The older ones make you feel young and the much younger ones make you feel smart. :-)
200 - Cindy
Hiya Jeannie,
Roger was just talking about people in general, not about you. (And probably not just any...but ones who we would probably think are obnoxious.)
How much snow did you get? I think we got two feet or more. I have to shovel in layers. Last time we had this much snow I was snowed in at the Embassy Suites in NYC. Fortunately they honored the cheap room rate I'd gotten for another night. It was so cool, as the only people around the streets were sporting cross-country skis!
201 - roger nowosielski
Jeannie,
I used to look like Richard Burton and Robert Taylor put together.
I am no longer the beauty I used to be, but I can still hold my candle to most.
202 - roger nowosielski
Actually, Charles Bronson, another Polack, is a fair approximation, even today.
Just the right kind of mixture of masculine roughness and feminine sensibility.
I haven't posted any mugshot yet for fear of all the female contingent to become overly excited.
203 - roger nowosielski
I'd have another problem altogether with my gay admirers.
I hope you can appreciate my dilemma.
204 - roger nowosielski
Jeannie responds:
23 - jeannie danna
Feb 26, 2010 at 9:52 am
Thank You, for that beautiful and intelligent comment. I'm framing it!
24 - roger nowosielski
Feb 26, 2010 at 9:53 am
Wait until I send in my picture. That will be the proper object for framing.
25 - roger nowosielski
Feb 26, 2010 at 9:55 am
I'm surprised, Jeannie, you don't know that men have far greater ego than women - especially beautiful men.
After all, Narcissus was a man, or so the legend says.
26 - roger nowosielski
Feb 26, 2010 at 9:56 am
We are the peacocks of the species, just admit it.
27 - roger nowosielski
Feb 26, 2010 at 10:03 am
That's why Clavos, ugly as sin - both inside and out - has no lesser ego than I. In fact, in that particular respect, we're evenly matched. (Of course, he excels in matters of erudition, native intelligence, clear thinking and last but not least, immaculate grammar. There's no way I could hold the candle for him in the mentioned respects, however hard I try. Even so, I try!)
And if this doesn't prove the utter superiority of the male subspecies, I don't know what will.
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PS: Actually, Jeannie's response (#23), as I was soon to find out, was to Bob Lloyd, but I thought it was pretty pertinent to this thread as well; hence it's now part of the record.
205 - roger nowosielski
"hold a candle to . . ." idiom
Now I'm going to be pried open like a can of sardines.
Woe is me.
206 - Dr Dreadful
Now I'm going to be pried open like a can of sardines.
I'm reminded of a skit by the English humorist Alan Bennett, in which he plays a vacuous preacher giving a sermon:
"Life, you know, is rather like a tin of sardines. We're all of us looking for the key.
"Some of us think we've found the key, don't we? We peel back the lid of the sardine tin of life, to reveal the sardines, the riches of life, within. And we get them out, we enjoy them.
"But you know, there's always a little bit in the corner you can't get out. Is there a little bit in the corner of your life? I know there is in mine."
:-)
207 - roger nowosielski
Ain't that the truth. The fork won't do it.
And if you try your fingers, you're liable to get cut.
208 - jeannie danna
Cindy,
After giving you advice about shoveling snow, I went out and fractured one of my vertebrae. Please don't try too hard, to keep up with snow. Just let it melt. That's what we are doing at our house now!
As far as old Roger here, I think it is so painfully obvious that he is lonely, and, I feel sorry for him.
:[ Nothing I can do about it, he just spits venom whenever I approach him. So, I'll have to ignore him. He doesn't even know why, he acts this way. Maybe you can help him to understand.
209 - roger nowosielski
I am glad, though, Jeannie, that you're doing so well.
But don't you worry. When you approach me with real need, I'll be there.
210 - Cindy
Oh, that's how you got hurt, Jeannie. Sorry to hear that. I wish you a speedy recovery.
211 - cannonshop
Jeannie, I have to correct you on something here...
Roger's not venomous, and he doesn't spit. He's a nice person, kind of like Glenn, or Cindy, or YOu.
I, on the other hand, AM venomous, even vicious and unreasonable, possibly hostile, nasty, cruel, heartless, and a deluxe-grade understudy of evil, whose place in the afterlife is both stoked and noisy with the other damndesouls out there (assuming, that is, one actually believes in an afterlife, and the imaginary friend with the judgement issues.)
and while it's somewhat amusing to watch the nice people tear into one another for no particular reason, it's not particularly satisfying, especially when it's over one of them being yet-more-sensitive than the rest over nothing.
Roger's comment had to do with 'people' in general-which is true-most people don't think, refuse to think, and insist on not thinking. This is how you get people voting party-line or yellow-dog rather than actually reading up on the candidates and issues (or platform)and choosing rationally.
Most people not thinking is how we keep winding up in the same mess (only worse) every time.
Glenn Beck and Keith Olbermann rely on masses of people who don't think to pay their bills (through ratings), Ideologues HATE it when people START thinking on their own.
But you should stop taking things so personally-especially when they're not aimed at your person. Once in a while is fine, everybody does it, but on a constant basis loses one's "Nice People" status.
212 - jeannie danna
cannonshop,
I don't really care who is good or evil here, I find all of you equally very puzzling, and frankly, it doesn't really matter.
What I am doing here does matter a lot,to me.
Now you can come upon this thread hours after the fact and try to figure out what happened if you wish. I say ,"Good luck with with, this one."
Now, in Roger's 204, my 23 was speaking to Bob Loyd, on another thread.
I was followed there by Roger, who by the way, finds it almost impossible not to chime in whenever anyone says anything to me. I find this very tiring to say the least.
Whenever I express my thoughts here, they are labeled as an emotional tirade of some sort; this, frankly is nothing more than a double standard.
I believe that most people here wish that I would either, shut up, change my beliefs, or go away.
I am me, cannonshop, and that's all on this subject, that I would care to discuss.
If you wish to discuss, nuclear power,road construction, or what health care we should adopt for this nation, then, please do me the favor of reading my articles here, so that we may debate them.
me