The NDAA is Much Less "Fixed" than They Claim

Part of: The Big Lie

Once president Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) it appears that word went out to all of the Senators and Representatives who voted for it that the bill was fixed and they should write their constituents reassuring them that it the bill no longer authorized the indefinite detention of US citizens inside our borders by the military on presidential order and without due process of law.

So the reassuring emails were sent to all the constituents who had lobbied against the passage of the bill with the military detention provisions included, and a lot of them were pacified by these earnest statements from legislators who likely either did not read or did not understand the totality of the NDAA as it was finally passed. They were convinced that the addition of the statements "Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens" (1021.e) and "The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States" (1022.b.1) actually fixed the problems with the bill.

What they failed to understand is that the first statement is meaningless because the authors of the bill and the president believe that they already had the power to detain civilians in military custody without due process even before this bill was passed, and that the second statement still uses the term "requirement" which means that while military detention of US citizens is not required in all cases as it is with foreign citizens, it is still an option if ordered by the president.

All they had to do to actually fix this bill was change the phrase "not required" in the original language to "prohibited" when referring to the military detention of US citizens and all of the complaints would have been satisfied. That they did not do this when every expert had told them it was the simple and obvious solution and that they instead engaged in misdirection and false assurances, demonstrates a cynical attitude towards the intelligence of the outraged public which had been loudly lobbying against this aspect of the NDAA.

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  • 1 - ironboltbruce

    Jan 06, 2012 at 7:50 am

    Obama has issued his NDAA Signing Statement. Here is mine:

    Americans must not be distracted by Corporate Fascist Puppet Barack Obama saying "my Administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens" in his signing statement for the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (H.R.1540). Presidential "signing statements" are political propaganda with no Constitutional basis. A President who breaches a signing statement covenant faces no more consequences than any other corrupt politician who renegs on a promise. By signing NDAA and attempting to give its unconstitutional provisions the force of law, Barack Hussein Obama became complicit with all of the bought-and-paid-for U.S. Senators and Representatives who voted for this bill, and along with them should be charged with Seditious Conspiracy under U.S. Code Title 18 Part I Chapter 115 Section 2384. Unless and until these vermin are arrested, charged and removed from office, I will no longer consider the government they infest to be legitimate. Nor will I respect any ruling to the contrary from a judicial system that grants rights of citizenship to corporate entities that treat settlements and penalties for criminal conduct as costs of doing business with no concerns about incarceration or execution to deter their illegal, immoral or unethical conduct.

    No more Left. No more Right. Time to Unite. Stand and Fight!

    IronBoltBruce

  • 2 - Bill Anderson

    Jan 06, 2012 at 8:26 am

    Concerned about civil liberties? Please search for "New police weapon against homeless" on homeless forums. Bill Anderson

  • 3 - bringovdown

    Jan 06, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    dethronehatch.com
    Orrin Hatch is on the Finance Committee in the Senate- he's voted for 16 debt ceiling increases and the NDAA- time for him to leave after 36 freaking years

  • 4 - Joe

    Jan 07, 2012 at 5:30 am

    If they don't provide a due process, it's not a legitimate arrest - it's a authorized kidnapping!

  • 5 - Stacey

    Jan 07, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    Nationwide NDAA 2012 Congressional Protest is Feb. 3rd. Spread the word!

  • 6 - Rwolf

    Jan 15, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Americans Lose Constitution & Country To New Fascist Legislation

    Almost every week there are published news accounts of Police Corruption, e.g. Police taking bribes, aiding & smuggling illegal drugs, robbing drug-dealers and committing perjury.

    ALERT! Perjury by police and their informants may now pose the greatest threat to Americans' Freedom due to Congress in December 2011 passing (NDAA) The National Defense Authorization ACT of 2012.

    Under (NDAA) Government does not need probable cause or corroborating evidence to Indefinitely Detain Americans without charges, no right to an attorney, trial or Habeas Corpus; Police that falsify reports and give perjured testimony can now cause innocent Americans to be swept off the street and indefinitely incarcerated for being a suspected terrorist or supporting Terrorism: Note no violent act is required to be charged with involvement in terrorism under (NDAA).

    If that is not scary enough, Congress is now considering HR 3166 and S. 1698 also known as the "Enemy Expatriation Act" sponsored by Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Charles Dent (R-PA) that would let Government Strip Your Citizenship Without a Conviction. Once an American's Citizenship is stripped they have no rights whatsoever. To read article, search title: New Bill Known As Enemy Expatriation Act Would Allow Government To Strip Citizenship Without Conviction.
    To read the full text of the bill, go here.

    Currently there are several Multi-State Recall Petitions of Congressman that voted for The National Defense Authorization ACT of 2012.

    Some observers believe NDAA included the vague term "Belligerent" in the manner it did, so U.S. Government would have authority granted by Congress to Indefinitely Detain large numbers of Americans not involved in terrorism.

    Under NDAA, U.S. Government can deem anyone a "Belligerent" for indefinite detention. The term "Belligerent" is so expansive and vague an American Citizen could be labeled a "Belligerent" for exercising First Amendment Rights--speaking out for or against any issue; protesting a U.S. Government Policy; agency or coalition Partner. It is foreseeable U.S. Government will threaten Americans with Indefinite Detention that refuse to act as informants. The East German Stasi Police used this tactic to create an army of neighborhood and other informants.

    The passed (Defense Authorization Act of 2012) appears more threatening to Americans than (Hitler's FASCIST 1933 Discriminatory LAWS) that suspended provisions in the Reich Constitution that Protected German Citizens' Civil Liberties?

    For example--Hitler's 1933 DISCRIMINATORY LAWS (stated fines and time limits) that German Citizens could be incarcerated for e.g., Serious Disturbance of the Peace, Provoking Public Unrest, Rioting; Acts that threatened National Security. In contrast Senators John McCain and Carl Levin's passed National Defense Authorization Act of 2012--mandates holding Americans' (Indefinitely) in Military Custody for being a mere "Belligerent."

    Under the passed National Defense Authorization, could some Americans (Retroactively) be subject to Indefinite U.S. Military or Prison Detention without charges or right to an attorney or trial?

    Consider most American activists don't know what other activists and groups they networked or associated did in the past--perhaps illegal. Both the National Authorization Act of 2012 and USA Patriot Act are expansive and vague--what constitutes (1) supporting or aiding terrorists, (2) a terrorist act; (3) when someone is a "Combatant" or (4) "a Belligerent." For example, Americans advocating, attending or supporting a meeting or protest demonstration against a U.S. Government Agency; Policy or U.S. Military Action--could be charged with (1) (2) (3) and (4) under NDAA and the Patriot Act.

    History Repeats: When other countries passed Police State Laws like The Defense Authorization Act of 2012, Citizens increasingly abstained from politically speaking out; visiting activist websites or writing comments that might be deemed inappropriate by their Police State Government, e.g. cause someone to lose their job; be investigated; disappeared and or detained in Police/Military Custody. Some writers might be dead-meat under NDAA.

    It appears that "Americans" who write on the Internet or verbally express an opinion against any entity of U.S. Government or its coalition partners--may under the Patriot Act or The Defense Authorization Act--be deemed by U.S. Government (someone likely to engage in, support or provoke violent acts or threaten National Security) to order an American writer's indefinite military or prison detention.

    Is NDAA Retroactive? Can U.S. Government invoke provisions of NDAA or the Patriot Act to assert a U.S. Citizen's past or current writings (protected by the 1st Amendment) supported or aided terrorists, provoked combatants or belligerents as a premise to order an author's Indefinite Detention?

    The Defense Authorization Act of 2012 did more than Chill Free Speech--it may FREEZE IT! Consider: In mid-January 2012 Homeland Security announced the National Operations Center (NOC) received permission from Washington to monitor journalists and retain data on users of social media and online networking platforms. Could this Homeland Security spying, tracking Americans result in Citizens abstaining from visiting and posting comments on websites? It is not clear why Homeland Security wants to track users of social media and online networking platforms. You may read, search title: Homeland Security Monitors Journalists 1-7-12.

    It should be expected that indefinitely detained U.S. Citizens not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings when interrogated or allowed legal counsel; will also be prosecuted for non-terrorist (ordinary crimes) because of their (alleged admissions) while held in Indefinite Detention.

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