Could Rajab 27th be the end of days? Is Jerusalem in danger of destruction at the hands of Iran?
Rajab 27, 1427 — the Night of the Sira’a and Miira’aj. Mean anything to you?…
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Could Rajab 27th be the end of days? Is Jerusalem in danger of destruction at the hands of Iran?
Rajab 27, 1427 — the Night of the Sira’a and Miira’aj. Mean anything to you?…
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— go to most recent comments26 - Glen Boyd
Ruvy,
If Aham D (theres your nickname) does choose to light up the sky in accordance with paving the way for his "Mahdi" (and thank you for the correct spelling on that), I will be praying you for my brother.
Come to think of it, I will be praying for you anyway Ruvy.
These are amazing times no matter how it is spun by the media. If my understanding of biblical prophecy is correct though (and i admit i am no scholar on this), God will not permit the destruction of Isreal and will in fact reign fire down upon those who try. At least if my understanding of that particular chronology of events is correct.
I'm not real happy with Mr. Bush right now.
God bless you in any case Mr. Ruvy. My prayers are with you.
-Glen
27 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
Glen,
Thank you for your prayers and by the way - Ruvy is the nickname from Reuven - the name I got from the moyel when he took my (and his) tip over 50 years ago...
I wasn't happy with Mr. Bush when he was declared the winner in December 2000. Actually, if he is the fellow I (and many rabbis) think he is, he should be very concerned with the End of Days. He plays a big role in them - and winds up as enriched birdfood for the vulures of this Land.
I'll have to think about that nickname - it just doesn't have a Persian ring to it, and it doesn't fly like a rug...
Shabbat Shalom
28 - Glen Boyd
Actually Ruvy I think the guy you may be thinking of goes by the name of Javier Solana, and thats fodder for another entire conversation.
I think Bush is sort of the "idiot savant" playing a role, though not the one he may think...(my personal take for what little it is worth, and as the good "liberal" I am, I try to maintain public neutrality on these things...LOL)
Lots of sixes assocaited with Mr. Solana though.
Lots of em. Just do the research on the E.U.
You might wanna check out a site called fulfilledprophecy.org for the sake of research if nothing else (I don't expect you to buy into his messainic beliefs...not at all)
But some very interesting stuff there.
My prayers for you are sincere though Ruvy. Because there is something in the air. And I feel it as surely "here" as I am sure you do "there".
Peace be with you my brother.
-Glen
29 - sy
"Could the Bush Administration know more than they’re letting on about an additional impending danger that they don’t want to panic the American population about?" ....Have you forgotten that all knowing look on Bushs face sept 11 at the florida school....Bushs body language clearly said he did not have a clue what was going on. And what gives you the impression that he does not seek to panic the public. Their color coded terror alert level routine does nothing but scare.
30 - kishore
It is unfortunate that the Muslims and Islam are being targeted. Muslim or Islam has nothing to do with this. It is only the Pakistan's ISI which is doing all the dirty job with their Muslim Surrogates, its name is not giong to come out. Only Osama Bi Laden, who is a cave man, who does not have Internet connection to know what is happening in the World, and who sleeps in Caves was able to Plot??..........Silly World, absolutely no logic.
West is Pathetic, they can't understand the Brilliant minds of the Pakistan's Intelligence Agency, ISI, They are the best int he world. CIA is a big shit in front of them. CIA is begging for $5 Billions, F-16's to be released to Pakistan, otherwise the Pakistani ISI is going to do some thing that would be "Unimaginable" and CIA can not perpetually thwart these attempts. You americans, please bow your heads and learn some humility. Please give the Pakistani's the Money so that they can remain quite, But you can never stop them. They are too "Sophisticated"
31 - Nancy
Ruvy, please explain the comment #27: how does Bush become bird food, & for who? Frankly, I wouldn't weep to see him buy it in any manner, or that sick-o pervert, Cheney; as for Bush acting like it's business as usual, as pointed out, this won't be the first few dozen times he's been clueless in a crisis.
Regretably, I have had to come to the conclusion that the only peaceful muslims are dead muslims, at this point.
32 - Jet in Columbus
Glen Boyd 24: Bush was elected by loaded church busses full of preprogrammed voters whose only goal was to turn this nation into a theocracy!
As always your input is most welcome.
Carus deus, quis have ego commissio?
Jet
33 - Jet in Columbus
Ruvy#25 Since the Prophet rose from Jerusalem in a brightly lit up night sky, I'd still say that's the target, despite the temptation of Tel Aviv.
I hope I'm worng
As for a nick name-good question Hmmm.
Ahmadinejad
MR A
Mad Jad?
As always, thanks for contributing.
Blessings
Jet
34 - Jet in Columbus
Glen 26, no all we need is a horse with a man's head-Hmmmm North Korean gene splicing?
35 - Jet in Columbus
Sy #29-your chosen quote answers your question for you, it's the Bush administration not Bush himself.
He's not allowed to think for himself.
When he does it comes out in frightening stammers and a dozen "Uh-Uh"s along with many rediculous hand gestures and misquoted bible verses.
36 - Jet in Columbus
Kishore #30 says "Muslim or Islam has nothing to do with this.".
Kishy old man, PLEASE!!!!. While your nationalistic pride is interesting, every one of every successful terror attack perpetrated on the US has been accomplished by...
Every one of every successful terror attack on British soil has been accomplished by...
Every one of every successful terror attack on Israel has been accomplished by...
(Drumroll please?)
...A radical Muslim/Islamic fundamentalist!
I think it has EVERYTHING to do with it!
Of course that's only my opinion...
Jet
37 - Jet in Columbus
Nancy, Unfortunately I'd agree with one amendment... There are many peaceful decent Muslims. The only peaceful radical fundementalist Muslims are the dead ones.
Stop picking on Bush-shame on you. In a national crisis it's only right that our leader concern himself with political fundraising and clearing brush on vacation in Texas.
After all, Chenney's in Washington running things, and trying to arrange a quail hunting trip with Ahmadineja to "talk things over"
Carus deus, quis have ego commissio?
Jet
38 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
Nancy,
In the Tana"kh in Ezekiel 39, it recites the following.
God’s Covenant With Israel, Gog’s Armies Destroyed
1 “And you, son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, ‘Thus says the L-rd G-d: “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince, head of Meshech, and Tubal; 2 and I will turn you around and lead you on, bringing you up from the far north, and bring you against the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will knock the bow out of your left hand, and cause the arrows to fall out of your right hand. 4 You shall fall upon the mountains of Israel, you and all your troops and the peoples who are with you; I will give you to birds of prey of every sort and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. 5 You shall fall on the open field; for I have spoken,” says the L-rd G-d."
George Bush is Gog. He is descended from a family that is from a valley near the hills of Gog and Magog, England. His nickname in the Skull and Bones Society in Yale was "Goggie."
Note: I have changed the translation of the web site just a bit. The website translates the title of Gog as "Prince of Rosh...", etc. Rosh means "head" as in leader or person at the top. Rosh haShana means "head of the year."
For some reason he Gog/Bush comes to Israel, probably to visit the troops he has sent here. Events occur that cause him and his troops to die. Thus he become birdfood on the mountains of this country. That is how I read Ez.39:1-5. Which is why I always hope that the man maintains his appetite. I want the birds of prey and beasts of the field to have a good, satisfying meal.
Shabbat Shalom
39 - Nancy
Hmph. Pity it won't wipe out Cheney, too. Have a good shabbat, Ruvy. Thanks.
Jet, I accept your amendment. Thanks.
40 - Jet in Columbus
Okay Maurice, it's been months since I researched it but here goes...
From the Middle East Policy Counill
Post-invasion membership of Iraq in OPEC may well become a sensitive issue. It may appear attractive to the anti-OPEC members of the U.S. administration to weaken the organization by removing Iraq from membership or, in the long run, to "control" Iraqi production to lessen reliance on Saudi Arabia. Neither strategy makes any sense. Saudi Arabia has always been a steadying, fiscally pragmatic influence in OPEC production and price-setting decisions, to the benefit of the United States as the world's major oil consumer. In addition, there is no reason to suppose that a newly emergent free and democratic Iraq would act other than in its own best interest as a participant in OPEC production and pricing decisions. For example, Iraq would be well aware that if, under pressure from an occupying power, they seek to gain market share at the expense of Saudi Arabia, Aramco could well flood the world oil market, driving down prices and crippling Iraq's post-invasion humanitarian and economic-recovery program
41 - Jet in Columbus
Sorry folks the comment directed at Maurice was posted on the wrong string-My bad-juggling too many balls in the air at once...
Jet
42 - Matthew T. Sussman
"Why is our president flying around making political visits from his ranch in Texas, instead of heading directly to the White House?"
Well, how about because the White House is a bigger target, so as not to put all eggs in one's basket he moves his office to Texas.
43 - Jet in Columbus
As always my Ruvy Research Department comes through again in a pinch. Thanks my friend.
Blessings
Jet
44 - Jet in Columbus
Matt it is to be pointed out that the man spends a huge percentage of his time either on vacation on his ranch, relaxing at Camp David, flying all over the country making expensive political fundraising stops on the taxpayer's dimes, of galavanting all over the world instead of being in the White House where he belongs.
The man avoids Washington like his father avoids brocoli!
If Bush's administration and so-called Heartland Security Agency were doing its job, the White House would be the safest place in the world!
It was during all previous administrations; wasn't it?
45 - Nancy
Dubya's past history demonstrates that he's always been lazy & knocked off, once he's achieved what he considers to be his "goal", in this case, the presidency. Now he's got the title, he doesn't have to work much more than the minimum to sustain the illusion he's The Decider. His tenure as Texas governor showed that. Ditto his stints heading various (failed) business concerns. Only this time Mummy & Poppy Bush can't buy his way out of his incompetence.
46 - Matthew T. Sussman
If you had the opportunity to work from home, you would too. I have that chance in maybe a year, and you'd bet your bottom dollar that I'm trying to make that happen.
47 - Nancy
You can't 'work' at the presidency while clearing brush, cycling, or fundraising - and that's all the vacuous fucker ever does. If he WERE 'working' from home, nobody would be complaining.
48 - gonzo marx
side note on Iran's theoretical "nuclear capability"
unless someone has actually delivered a nuke to them, they have none
hear me out
Iran has bought a limited amount of uranium hexaflouride, which is needed to be used in cascade centerfuges in order to process fissionable material
they have enough of that to run about 2 centerfuges, and with the quality they hold, would need over 200 units in a cascade configuration in order to produce significant quantities of fissionable material
so far, they do not have enough
the native Iranian uranium is contaminated with molybdenum... the Iranians do NOT have the technical capabilities to remove this molybdenum from the uranium, and not removing this impurity would destroy any cascade devices this contaminated material was used in
now, it IS possible that they have been given an actual nuclear device (say, from Pakistan, or even China)... or that they have some secret supply of uranium hexaflouride we are not aware of...(however, even if they do, they are still over 190 centerfuges short of the needed cascade assembly for enrichment)
see, physics apply
also to not, none of the actions Iran has taken so far on this front are in violation of the Non-Proliferation treaty which they are signatory to
i am NOT defending the bullshit puppet government in Iran, or it's hate mongering "president" as was appointed by the Mullahs... just pointing out the data as best as we know it at this time
this doesn't mean that something may not occur on the 22nd... just that, unless someone has secretly delivered a nuke to Iran, they do not have the capability (by a long shot) to have even put a single device together themselves at this time
as to the other side of the Topic...
yes, Jet.. i do see evidence that many on the World Stage at this point in our history have indeed lost their Reason and are acting as if they hold some Significance in scriptural Prophecy...
and i do think such deluded fools are the most dangerous Thing in our World at this time.. but the Danger comes from their Delusions, not from any outside Entity
your mileage may vary
Excelsior?
49 - Nancy
With Pakistan (and India's Khan) - not to mention N. Korea - more than willing to sell anything to anyone for any reason, I wouldn't bet Iran doesn't have something in the works, Gonzo.
50 - gonzo marx
a Possibility i pointed out, Nancy
i just do not weigh it as a high Probability at this time
if they do have such capability, it woudl be quite limited, one device...at the most two
it would invite IMMEDIATE retaliation not only upon Iran, but on whomever it was foudn out that sold such a device to them
and on that stage, only the U.S. wins... since our stockpile and tech is so much greater than the rest of the world, combined... and we have the capability to deliver it precisely where we want, whenever we want
i don't think even the crazies in Tehran are suicidal.. i certain the Chinese are not... the Pakistani's are smarter than that...and N Korea has so little at this time, they are not about to give any of it away and lose their edge
we will see, and i do hope i read it all correctly
but any sane speculation flies out the window when messianic politics become involved
Excelsior?
Excelsior?
51 - Glen Boyd
Ruvy (#38),
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was always understood that a lot of modern eschatologists believe "Gog" to actually be a reference to a land northernmost of Isreal (modern-day Russia?).
I'm at work today and wont be able to respond right away but look forward to your thoughts on this.
-Glen
52 - Nancy
Yah, BUT:
No one knows for sure what Kim has or doesn't have; Pakistan has plenty of people in the government who don't support the President & do support terror who would gladly sell out; and India's physicist, Khan, is still alive, well, and living the good life unimprisoned after selling all kinds of nuclear secrets all over the place, which astonishes me. For all anyone knows he still is peddling everyone's life away to support his deluxe lifestyle.
It wouldn't immediately mean retaliation on Iran; when it comes to nuclear attack, everyone in the western world is (correctly) almost over-wussy about using it. I think there'd be a lot of squawking & howling, coupled with tearful/threatening pleas for diplomacy, etc. ad nauseam instead of giving the Iranians what they deserved: turning them into a sheet of molten glass - which, actually, we should have done long ago, IMO.
53 - gonzo marx
Nancy..
N Korea has enough fissionable material for somewhere between 2-10 devices of low yeild, no method of delivery, and questionable bomb making capability
the Pakistani material is closely watched by their government and by India, i highly doubt any woud be diverted form the root cause of deterrence between those two nations... it is possible, but woudl bwe quite difficult in the last 5 years for various reasons
and i am quite certain that before the U.S. woudl need to react to Iran, the Isrealis would swiftly retaliate with much more effect than anything Tehran could deal with
Excelsior?
54 - Christopher Rose
Nancy, if your contention is that all Iranians agree with their current political course, I can't really see any difference at all between your ideas and the racist rantings of Richard Brodie or the looney dogma of the more theological side of Ruvy's, er, broad personality.
Your lack of discrimination and apparent lack of any sense of nuance makes it hard to take your perspective at all seriously, if you'll forgive me the mild criticism.
55 - Jet in Columbus
Nancy#45-true-all very true
56 - Jet in Columbus
Suss #46 You know, by your very own words, you're inplying that Bush's Crawford ranch is more secure than the White House????????
Well if I personally had the option of working from home or the most prestigeous mansion in the free world I wonder what I'd do?
The white house is supposed to be his home from whence he works and the American People hired him and pay him to work from that home, not go flying in Air Force one on unnecessary trips and be on vacation all the time.
How about a comparason between GW's number of vacation days vs Bill Clinton's now wouldn't that be interesting?....
57 - Jet in Columbus
Gonzo 48-Welcome!!! Try this for size, a missile loaded with a warhead programed to explode two miles above Jerusalem with enough incinderary devices to light up the night sky as predicted, and also enough "nuklur" powder to make it a radioactive "dirty" bomb.
Not enough to be destructive, but enough to spread radiation sickness and death??? Do they have the resources for that?
Is that a workable plan?
Carus deus, quis have ego commissio?
Jet
58 - Jet in Columbus
Nancy 49-The problem with that is smuggling it in without the transit being spotted by satelite
59 - Jet in Columbus
Gonzo 50-Correct me if I'm wrong-and I probably am, but isn't it written somewhere that the muslims belived that all life on Earth must cease to exist before their souls can ascend to heaven?
60 - gonzo marx
Jet in #57
where the fuck do they get a missile?
long range rockets, they got.. but an actual missile capable of delivering such a warhead?
not fucking likely
and if so, it woudl clearly have USSR printed on the side, cuz that's the only source they could have had for such
again, not fucking likely...
not impossible, mind you.. but very low on the Probability matrix
Excelsior?
61 - Jet in Columbus
Gonzo Gonzo Gonzo, maybe it's because I play chess? Who said it had to be launched from Iran?
Hesbullshitla is getting their missiles from where? Why not launch it from Lebanon, the prophecy would come true, Iran would have a good laugh, and Lebanon would suffer the consequences!
Don't get so pissed off.
You're welcome here-you KNOW that.
Carus deus, quis have ego commissio?
Jet
62 - Jet in Columbus
How big of a warhead would you need for some bright flares burning in sequence and some powdered yellowcake?
I'd think it'd only need a rocket not a missile.
A long range scud?
63 - JustOneMan
gonzo
Dont forget when the USSR collapsed there were huge amount of arms and weapons sold on the black market...hey I bet a missle could fetch a lot of rubbles...
But then again theres Iran, China & Korea
64 - gonzo marx
Jet, no worries..i'm not pissed at all, just discussing...
some definitions for ya...
rocket - no guidance system, point and pray aiming
missile - guidance system, depending on level of tech, goes where you want it to, and can make course corrections via steering of rocket via guidance system and controls
Hizb'allah has NO missiles, they do have rockets
missiles are fucking BIG, not easily moved and very delicate... now, it IS possible that the former USSR sold some off... highly doubtful no one noticed, most likely they woudl have needed to be dissassembled, then rebuilt... NOT something the vast majority of people in the world could do, even a skilled tech woudl have problems without the proper plans and tools and such... especially if they didn't read Russian (and i speak as a tech here)
hence my low assignment of Probability
note that never do i say it's impossible, and i do cite ways it coudl be possible... and then give Reasons why each Possibility has a low Probability, according to my own Understanding
as for #59... i don't know, not being as familiar with the Qur'an as i am with other scriptures, but i am unAware of such Prophesies in that book at this time
hope all that helps
Excelsior?
65 - Jet in Columbus
Gonzo, you mean that Hezbullshitlah has been pointing and praying all this time???
Oy vay!
66 - Jet in Columbus
JOM 64-There's still that pesky problem of satelite detection. You know-scratch that-how the hell did HezbullshitLa get all those rockets and the CIA didn't know about it?
Never mind, I think I just answered my own question...
Carus deus, quis have ego commissio?
Jet
67 - gonzo marx
Jet...
most of the rockets being used are quite small, and can be fit and fired from a pick up truck
there are some larger ones that need a special launcher (you see them on the news footage on the backs of 18 wheelers), these are the long range rockets being spoken of, and woudl be the smallest possible launching platforms for any kind of missile
Excelsior?
68 - Jet in Columbus
Gonzo 65-I always learn from you, that's why I look forward to you commenting on each new string.
Thank you my friend
Jet
69 - Jet in Columbus
Fair enough, how about fireworks/flares like the kind search and rescue uses being shot into the sky over Jerusalem from the ground from several locations in a long continuous sequence preprogrammed and then left to go off that would light up the sky-each laced with enough yellowcake to rain radioactive particles on the population?
Carus deus, quis have ego commissio?
Jet
70 - gonzo marx
besides the yellowcake part, it could be done with impeccable planning, full communication, and the capabilities that are available to them
still pretty unlikely, but not outside the realm of the Possible
Excelsior?
71 - gonzo marx
i shoudl elucidate here...
part of the problem with your Scenario here Jet is detonation...
missiles can be detonated whenever those firing it chooses (depending on the missile system) but rockets are impact detonated and thus woudl need heavy modification to detonate mid-air
hence my skepticism, since things like a Katuysha cannot be modified for such
it's a weight thing, as i said previously...physics apply
hope that helps
Excelsior?
72 - Jet in Columbus
This is meant as a Joke up front Gonzo-so you know to laugh. what about scraping the luminous stuff off all those glow in the dark watches and alarm clocks?
Carus deus, quis have ego commissio?
Jet
73 - gonzo marx
heh..that stuff is usually either phosphorus based, or radium (low yeild isotope, not dangerous unless swallowed)
but a Fun thought... thousands of fanatics scraping the numbers off their watches...
but i digress...
Excelsior?
74 - Jet in Columbus
Gonzo 73-Absolutely yes that does help. Thank you my friend.
Carus deus, quis have ego commissio?
Jet
75 - Jet in Columbus
Hmmm interesting idea, then soldiers could detect them with night vision goggles by their glowing fingers!!!!
An easy way to tell who's a terrorist and who's an innocent bystander!!!!
Laughing laughing laughing.
I needed that...