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Collectivism and the myth of American Unexceptionalism may undermine American society as a whole

I read an article by Ezra Klein the other day, in the liberal American Prospect magazine (Yes, I do try to read both sides) called, "The Argument Over Inequality, The myth of individual exceptionalism may undermine society on the whole."…
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  • 76 - Franco

    May 01, 2009 at 2:56 pm


    77 - roger nowosielski

    Reveling his true nature through an out of control elitist ad hominem melt down. Which I might add, is one of the more substantial displays of this seen in a while

    Roger, you don’t know anything about me. And what you assume and thus profess you think you know about me speaks volumes, not about me, but about you.

    Based on what you have just displayed, the very ideas I put forth have proven to ruffle your feathers to the point of causing you to reveal your true nature, which is anything but what you claim it to be. For showing the truth and power of the ideas I put forth, I thank you.

    FYI, I will project my ideas whenever and wherever I choose here on BC. You on the other hand have your freedom to choose to regain your composure and engage on the ideas themselves, or you can choose to take your elitist ball and go home, which you often threaten to do with others here on BC.

    The choice is yours, choose wisely.

  • 77 - Baronius

    May 01, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Roger, what's up with the religious smears? You've launched three or four of them in the past week.

    As I've noted elsewhere, it's common for liberals to change the topic when they're losing an argument. I think you're trying to induce a digression. But if it makes you feel better, 90% of the board activity in recent weeks has been on the digressions of torture memos and swine flu, which serve to distract us from the economic and international debates we should be having. That's our fault, following the lead of the mainstream press while Chrysler, and Pakistan, fall apart unnoticed.

    Boy, this "add your comment" window seems smaller than before. It's hard to do my standard three-paragraph comment. Maybe it always was this small, and I didn't notice it because I could review my comments before submitting. My feelings about the new site design match my feelings toward the Obama presidency: it's a work in progress, so I'm trying not to judge, but it hasn't done much to impress me so far.

  • 78 - roger nowosielski

    May 01, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Baronius,

    Why should you regard it as a smear? I'm only trying to make sense of your own convoluted outlook. And to do so, I have to piece it together with the information that's available, which, BTW, you yourself have provided. So are you perhaps being somewhat ashamed that a good Catholic would be so uncharitable in their views and attitudes?

    Yes, the world is falling apart, but that's no excuse not to deal with such indignities as torture. So no, it's not a distraction by any means but properly belongs in the center of things, the center of everything what we're about, where we're going, the future. Humanity and how we relate to it comes before politics, before America, before you and me. But I shouldn't have to be preaching this to you, Baronius, because you should know these truths. So please don't make me, because really, I don't take the pleasure. If you'll start measuring up, perhaps you'll see a significant difference in the quality of my responses - to you!


  • 79 - Baronius

    May 01, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Your offer of nicer comments if I agree with you confirms that you've deliberately been less than nice recently. Am I supposed to take "convoluted" as "uncharitable" as compliments, just as you complimented me with the name "Goebbels"?

    I consider the torture memo debate to be a distraction because it's not about current policy, and is overtly unconstitutional. There's nothing uncharitable about my position. It might improve your understanding of my outlook if you judge my positions by the quality of the reasoning, rather than whether they match some predetermined outcome.

    I am against torture. I don't believe that the US actions constitute torture. I don't see any legal options for those who disagree with the previous administration's interpretation of US policy. Where's the lack of charity in that position?

    I'm sorry about being off-topic.

  • 80 - Baronius

    May 01, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Does a one-comment page not come up? I thought I posted comment #81 an hour ago, but it's not loading.

  • 81 - roger nowosielski

    May 01, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Franco,

    My feathers wouldn't be ruffled by anybody like you, rest you assured. But I have a better strategy than to engage in third-grade discussions, because it only cramps my style.

    So taking the lead from good ole Mark, remember him? I'll just say "fuck it."

  • 82 - Bliffle

    May 02, 2009 at 11:21 am

    OA reveals one of the dark ideas responsible for his mad theories.

    "Bottom line, you take away the profit incentives behind medicine, and that means you take away invention and ingenuity. People are not going to work to discover new science just because they feel like it, and government ain't going to spend tax payer's dollars on a slim chance of some R&D effort being successful."

    Do you really think Jonas Salk carefully calculated, as a young man, that creating a polio vaccine would make him rich?

    Did you know that MOST of the medicines sold at high prices to patients (including the most prescribed: Lipitor) were invented in taxpayer funded universities and the NIH?

    If we truly had to depend on the profit motive for medicines we would soon expire while armies of plastic surgeons stand around waiting to perform the only thing they know: liposuction.

  • 83 - Cindy

    May 02, 2009 at 11:35 am

    Your brain on indoctrination:

    OA the US citizen : "America is the greatest country in the history of mankind".

    OA the Nazi : "Germany is the greatest country in the history of mankind".

  • 84 - Franco

    May 03, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    "My feathers wouldn't be ruffled by anybody like you, rest you assured. But I have a better strategy than to engage in third-grade discussions, because it only cramps my style. I'll just say "f---it."

    At what a tremendous height above others does roger here place himself! And note the arrogance with which he speaks.

    I wonder when roger was in third grader how many toys he used to threaten to take away from others and go home if they did not play all the games by his rules.

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