The Courts Have Spoken. We're Journalists. We Have Rights. - Page 2

EFF Spokesman and staff attorney Kurt Opsahl concluded: "Today's decision is a victory for the rights of journalists, whether online or offline, and for the public at large."

For more information see the coverage at InternetNews and Yahoo News.

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  • 1 - Michael J. West

    May 27, 2006 at 5:32 pm

    Fan-fucking-tastic.

    The truth is, it's not people like Apple that are the most worrisome in this situation, it's the "traditional journalists" who are the problem.

    The blogosphere has turned professional journalism into an "ivory tower" of sorts--it already was, of course, but now it's a bigger deal because they've got non-professional, untrained, non-"dues-paying" journalists competing for their audiences. And many seasoned journalists have begun to forget that "freedom of the press" doesn't only refer to a particular industry.

    This here court ruling won't get rid of that kind of snobbery, but it might help embolden some of the bloggers who are intimidated about things like gaining access to high places. Maybe it'll even help some people recognize that this kind of populist approach is good for journalism as a whole.

    Or maybe I'm a complete idealist and talking outta my ass.

  • 2 - Samuel James

    May 27, 2006 at 5:43 pm

    The fact is, there IS a difference between what we do and what the NY Times does. I say we're better because we are held accountable for what we print. Why? Because, unlike mass media journalism, there is no central headship (aka corporate ownership) over blogging. The chance for groupthink in something as large and accessible in blogging is significantly lowered.

  • 3 - Dave Nalle

    May 27, 2006 at 6:57 pm

    I think it's very telling that so many mainstream journalists are now stealing from bloggers. They've always been intellectually bankrupt, but the existence of the blogosphere really highlights that, because it shows how many people there are out here who can do their job as well or better than academically trained journalists can.

    Admittedly there's also a great deal of crap in the blogosphere, but the best investigative bloggers and the best blog pundits are as good as or better than their journalistic equivalents, and not as beholden to the journalistic culture or groupthink as was pointed out earlier.

    Dave

  • 4 - Michael J. West

    May 27, 2006 at 9:50 pm

    Admittedly there's also a great deal of crap in the blogosphere

    That's true, but there's a helluva lot of crap in traditional journalism, too.

  • 5 - Dave Nalle

    May 28, 2006 at 2:23 am

    Sturgeon's rule is universal, I fear.

    Dave

  • 6 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    May 28, 2006 at 5:33 am

    Dave, don't wet your pants with happiness just yet. Do you seriously thing that Apple will not appeal? This is just a court of appeals decision. There is yet another appellate level to go. And this is a sexier and more interesting case than the ever present arguing over abortion - a least for judges...

    In the meantime, if I'm a journalist, where the hell is my paycheck?!!!

  • 7 - Dave Nalle

    May 28, 2006 at 2:03 pm

    I don't think Apple can afford the bad press they're getting. They're going to back off, because they can't afford to look like the bad guy and get every blogger slamming them endlessly.

    Dave

  • 8 - Richard Marcus

    May 28, 2006 at 3:46 pm

    Curious question:
    I'm assuming this ruling is only relevent to the protectin of journalistic sourses, and the police and the governments can still apply to open your email in the same manner they apply to tap your phone or open your snail mail?

    In reality all this ruling does is give email the same sort of legal protection as telephone conversations and snail mail, which of course it the way it should be.

  • 9 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    May 28, 2006 at 4:51 pm

    Dumb question, Dave,

    Anyway to get a hold of the legal briefs ad the actual decison of the court?

  • 10 - Dave Nalle

    May 28, 2006 at 6:50 pm

    Richard, I think with a warrant they can still access your email, but they would have to go through you to get to it, rather than just bullying your ISP into giving it to them.

    Ruvy, if you click the link to the EFF in the article it takes you right to their page with the legal briefs and other documents.

    Dave

  • 11 - Wright

    May 28, 2006 at 10:40 pm

    Absolutely fascinating. Let's hope this ruling continues to stand.

  • 12 - Nukapai

    May 29, 2006 at 5:48 am

    This was a very interesting read, thank you. I can't say I blame Apple for trying to track down the sources (what the people who leaked information did was, after all, wrong) - but I am delighted that such a court ruling has taken place because it sets a precedent that could be significant in the future.

  • 13 - Dave Nalle

    May 29, 2006 at 12:57 pm

    Indeed, nothing wrong with Apple wanting to protect their interests, but that needs to be done by working with their own employees to find the leakers, not by trying to pressure bloggers who weren't doing anything wrong by publicizing the information once they had it.

    Dave

  • 14 - Nancy

    May 29, 2006 at 2:53 pm

    Isn't getting into people's emails & phone conversations without warrants what all the fuss is about regarding Bush & the NSA lately? So, if they don't cavil at violating your civil rights with the phone, why would they stop w/email? I doubt they do.

  • 15 - Dave Nalle

    May 29, 2006 at 5:33 pm

    It's a lot more complicated than that, Nancy. And there's a big difference between Apple bullying blogger/journalists and the government trying to track down terrorists. On the contrast between corporate paranoia and national security alone you ought to understand the difference.

    Dave

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