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I'm really glad that I didn't vote for Obama. I'd be even more disappointed in him than I now am.

I'm really glad I didn't vote for Obama. I'd be even more disappointed in him than I now am. He's done well with discussing the world's economic issues with the G20 elites (so far) and with those private investors whose "mistakes" converted the largest economy in the world into the world's largest welfare charity. But he's apparently forgotten those whose hopes and votes gave him that opportunity.…
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  • 26 - Baritone

    Apr 07, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Ruvy,

    I assume then that Isaiah must needs have also predicted from his prescient perch that there was going to be a "west."

    B

  • 27 - roger nowosielski

    Apr 07, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Still a logical flaw, Ruvy. That's how I see it. To wit, if he would be equally disappointed in anybody else, there is nothing to be disappointed in Obama in particular. That's how I read it.


  • 28 - Ruvy

    Apr 07, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    I assume then that Isaiah must needs have also predicted from his prescient perch that there was going to be a "west."

    Then you shall see and be radiant, and your heart shall throb and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be turned over to you, the wealth of the nations shall come to you. [Isaiah 60:5]

    The sea is to the west of Israel, Baritone. That is how the see is viewed in the Bible - to the west. That is how we view the sea now - to the west. The other sea is to the south - the Red Sea. Almost no prophecy dealt with the Red Sea, except by name, Baritone. The term "Wealth of Nations" also comes from this phrase, B-tone.... It was always assumed - even by non-Jews - that Isaiah was talking about the west. And the wealth would be to the west of Israel. That is what Isaiah saw, and that is what he said. That is all that Isaiah had to know.

  • 29 - Baritone

    Apr 08, 2009 at 2:03 am

    Just another prime example of religion making something out of nothing. Had Isaiah farted, an entire belief system would have arisen based upon the effects of an ill wind from the nether world.

    B

  • 30 - Ruvy

    Apr 08, 2009 at 3:17 am

    Pretty weak soup there, B-tone. Isaiah farted, so did Elijah, Elisha, Samuel and all the other prophets. Heck Deborah the prophetess had periods! And King David got mad at people who pissed on the wall. But they were just people - probably sharper and more perceptive than you or I, but people nevertheless.

    Also, just to toss the soup-pot back at you, it is Christians who worship people, not Jews. It's hard enough to get us to worship G-d. We're certainly not going to demean ourselves worshiping mere people. If you Christians (and former Christians) had been following Isaiah around in Israel, then, had Isaiah farted, an entire belief system would have arisen based upon the effects of an ill wind from the nether world.

  • 31 - Ruvy

    Apr 08, 2009 at 4:01 am

    Hummm, B-Tone.....

    Jesus or John must have really let off some nasty farts eating falafel and such. Christianity does have a whole theology based on an ill wind from the nether world. And Mary Magadalene must have had some pretty painful periods (no Midol at the local chemist in those days) because blood figures pretty prominently in a religion that talks about gobbling up the blood and body of its god a few times a day....

    You really shouldn't get me started tearing apart Christianity, B-tone. I'll do it with a relish and zest that mere atheists like you can't match....

  • 32 - Ruvy

    Apr 08, 2009 at 6:46 am

    Oh, BTW,B-Tone... Still holding that vigil for the Blessed of Hussein? Word at Debkafiles has it that the Saudi thugs (to whom the prick bowed) are not impressed with Obama's attempts to kiss Persian ass. I guess the royal assholes are offended....

    Obama was and inexperienced incompetent when he messed things up in Kenya trying to help his Luo tribe there. And now that he is in charge, he is showing just what an inexperienced idiot he really is.

    That vigil for the Blessed of Hussein is going to get pretty lonely after Easter and as May roles into June, B-tone.

    Ah, to be living in interesting times....

  • 33 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus

    Apr 08, 2009 at 7:27 am

    Had Isaiah farted, an entire belief system would have arisen based upon the effects of an ill wind from the nether world.

    I cried... No, really, it was that good.

  • 34 - Cindy

    Apr 08, 2009 at 8:33 am

    #19 - Brian,

    We live in a "sick soup". It causes and/or encourages all sorts of problems. The economic problems are only one part of it.

    As long as one lives in the soup, one can argue all day long about how to try to stay afloat...but the problem won't be solved by staying in the soup.

    People offer criticism when one suggests getting out of the soup. I'm waiting around until anyone cares to address moving beyond that criticism (which is valid and important) and helps with fixing some of the problems they see, instead of crying "it can't be done" after they've considered it for 30 seconds. It will take more thinking and work than that.

    Let me know when you're ready to work on solutions with me. There are things that need to be thought about. I'm ready when you are.

  • 35 - Jordan Richardson

    Apr 08, 2009 at 8:40 am

    Let me know when you're ready to work on solutions with me.

    I'll be ready by about Thursday, mid-afternoon. If you could order the soup before I get there, that'd be...

    Oh, you were talking to him...

  • 36 - Cindy

    Apr 08, 2009 at 8:47 am

    lol silly

  • 37 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus

    Apr 08, 2009 at 11:11 am

    We live in a "sick soup". It causes and/or encourages all sorts of problems. The economic problems are only one part of it.

    Well, I guess if you are referring to the fat cats who made this mess then I can agree,but, for people like myself, We're just trying to get by. The working class is just trying to do what's right.

    as for your thoughts...I'm always ready. Go'head & spill 'em.

    *all these references to soup is making me wonder what I should have for lunch*

  • 38 - Baritone

    Apr 09, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Ruvy,

    You go ahead and have a good time dissing the christers. They are only slightly loonier than the judeo part of the judeo/christian cabal.
    You're just a member of a much older bunch of nutballs.

    Your take on Obama's trip and its results is ludicrous. The last time I looked, it appears that there's a hell of a lot more muslims in the world than jews. Frankly, they are much more important to the future of the world than your little "promised land."

    Obama didn't kiss their asses, he showed them a bit of respect which is obviously beyond your limited abilities. Obama is far more pragmatic than those who believe as you. You believe I have my nose up Obama's ass, I believe you have yours up your god's.

    B



  • 39 - Cindy

    Apr 09, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Brian,

    Well, I guess if you are referring to the fat cats who made this mess then I can agree,but, for people like myself, We're just trying to get by. The working class is just trying to do what's right.

    I'm really trying to point out that none of us signed on for this design of society. I remember one of my first political ideas as a kid was along the lines of, "But I didn't agree to any of these rules. No one asked me if this is how I want things to be."

    Did anyone ask you yet Brian? Yet we claim we're free.

  • 40 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus

    Apr 09, 2009 at 11:25 am


    "Did anyone ask you yet Brian? Yet we claim we're free."

    HA! Like someone is gonna ask this working class schmuck...

    Cindy,I can definitely agree with you and I'm sure I have felt the same way but,honestly,I really have no idea what other system if any could replace what we have. I also think that this type of exploitative attitude is what ruined the music industry as well...

  • 41 - Cindy

    Apr 10, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Brian,

    You may be interested in an organization for worker mutual support worldwide.

    A link to their US branches.

    Their culture.

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