The Republican Party is the bastion of American morality? Looking at its leaders tells a different story.
When I watch many right-wing conservative Republicans in action, I can't help but think of my old Sunday-school lessons. Remember the Pharisees, the self-proclaimed pious ones of biblical times who were famous for opposing the love-and-peace ministry of Jesus Christ?…
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26 - Natalie Davis
"It is also a good thing to forgive people that fail to reach their own goals."
I forgive 'em all. But so long as they work to keep people unequal under law, they're fair game.
And PT noted that lib leaders have feet of clay too. Lord knows this progressive does not consider herself aligned with most other libs or progressives.
27 - Disco Stu
HMMMM and who are the Democrats leaders?
Bill Clinton: Serial adulterer who pardoned hundreds of criminals including Marc Rich the biggest tax cheat in US history, sold national security secrets to the Chinese, did nothing while the USS Cole, the WTC 1993 bombings and embassy bombings occurred.
Ted Kennedy: The Hero of Chappaquiddac who was too drunk one night in 1969 to save the life of a woman pregnant with his child after he drove her off a bridge then didn't report until 14 hours later after he had consulted with his political handlers and family.
John Kerry:
Self proclaimed war hero who met with NOrth Vietmanese during the war and stood on the graves of 59K dead soldiers last year in an attempt to win the presidency.
Robert Byrd.
Former kkk member
Howard dean:
Far left whackjob who accuses anyone who disagrees with him of being a white male nazi.
Al Sharpton: Two words tawanna brawley....nuff said
Last but not least all you rank and file dems who like to proclaim yourselves as enlightened and tolerant and then call clarence thomas or any other black person who votes republican or expresses conservative views an uncle Tom
Yeah you lefties have the morality market cornered huh.
28 - Stephen
Anyone who holds carries or peaches from that misinterepted evil book called the bible can not be trusted, Reuplicans Democrats and any other politicl group. We can not ban this book though we should because it is so miss interepted, we need it as a reference book only to understand occidental culture and the bible should only be used as a reference book in libraries as a reference book only not for circulation.
29 - Alethinos
Dave, don't add hypocrisy to the list of things you stand for. It is fine for the Republicans to strut about acting as if they are the bastions of moral rectitude but when it is pointed out that they are as fallible as any other mere mortal then suddenly WE'RE the terrible ones casting stones. What a load of crap...
Alethinos
30 - Anthony Grande
The Pharisees were the elite who extorted many from the poor who actually believed that they were helping them.
Kinda sounds to me like the same situation we have today with the Dems and the poor and minorities.
31 - alienboy
Anthony, you're babbling today. Have you got the flu or something, you seem feverish?
The Pharisees sound like one of those rip-off payday loan things.
32 - Anthony Grande
Alienboy, it sounds to me like you need to pick up the New Testament and read it.
The Pharisees are just like the Democrats. They just say things that they think the people can find believable. They dumn down the people so they will continue to support them.
When Jesus showed up on the scene the majority turned their heads from the Pharisees and towards the man performing the miracles. They knew they had to somehow take down Jesus. So they bashed and bashed him and lied about him trying to divert public attention from him just like the Democrats are doing right know.
33 - alienboy
Anthony, you must be looking through a mirror, you've got it all backwards.
The Pharisees were in power, so that would make them the Republicans who, guess what, "just say things that they think the people can find believable."
Still chuckling over your spelling of "dumb", the unconcious mind is a funny old thing, dontcha think?
Finally, who are you trying to compare to Jesus? Bush? Cheney? Rove?
34 - Dave Nalle
Alethenos, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Was that comment supposed to be directed to someone else?
Dave
35 - Anthony Grande
I was not comparing Jesus to anyone. I was comparing Jesus's "power in the majority" with that of the Republican Party.
When Jesus showed up on the scene and was doing great things to help people the Pharisees just sat in the background and bashed and lied and critisized. Doesn't that sound familiar?
36 - RogerMDillon
"The left pioneered this idea of dictating how people live,"
No, that was religion. It's in Anthony's bible
37 - Voltairean
The problem is not that the conservative right has not read the bible, but that they have read different parts than you. Here are just a few examples of how the Bush administration is in harmony with the word of God:
"The Lord is a man of war" - Exodus 15:3
God and Jesus were both racist. Granted the right tends to be more anti-black than anti-gentile but the idea is the same.
"Saith the Lord, the lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the...Gentiles is on his way" Jeremiah 4:7
"Go not into the way of the Gentiles....but rather to the lost sheep of the House of Israel" Jesus in Matthew 10:5,6
God is vengeful and spiteful like the Bush administration. One example is when he kills thousands of innocents because some men looked into the Ark of the Covenant. Too bad Saddam, Joe Wilson and all the others who have been slimed by the administration were not more aware of this one.
God is one cruel cat. I need not remind anyone that he once slaughtered the entire inhabitants of the earth sans one family. And another popular story is how he once killed all the first born sons of Egypt. Yeah, cruelty is definitely a God specialty. And perhaps now we see why some don't even bat an eye when it comes to us using torture.
God is not the fairest cat in town either. How else to explain punishing an innocent for a sin without teaching the innocent right from wrong. Or then holding mankind responsible for that which God caused. Not a far stretch to go from that to holding all muslims responsible for 9/11 including Iraqis and so what if they had nothing to do with it. If God doesn't care why should we?
"The rich ruleth over the poor" Proverbs 22:7. Well, I don't think this one needs any explanation.
And like the Bush Administration, God teaches blind faith over knowledge and reason.
"Verily I say unto you, Except...ye become as little children, ye shall not enter the kingdom of heaven" Matthew 18:3.
"I thank thee, O Father...that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and has revealed them unto babes." Luke 10:21
Better to be ignorant and believe than wise and a non-believer. In this light, the current debate over evolution and intelligent design makes much more sense. And who cares about what science tells us about global warming and the like, as long as we are stupid we will get into heaven.
See, contrary to your claim, the Bushies and the conservative right often follow the word of God very closely.
Perhaps that is the problem.
38 - Dave Nalle
"God and Jesus were both racist. Granted the right tends to be more anti-black than anti-gentile but the idea is the same."
And the smear goes on. Keep saying that the Democrats aren't the party which has systematically oppressed minorities for their own gain and eventually someone will believe it's true. But not Republicans who welcome all minorities with open arms and equal treatment.
Dave
39 - Anthony Grande
"Granted the right tends to be more anti-black..."
Please tell me, how are we anti-black? And how is the left not?
40 - Idle Wise
Wow, your finger must be tired from writing so much in the sand. Seriously, about the title, Marilyn Manson said that a crapload of years ago and he said it in bondage gear so he gets the points for individuality.
Can you even USE logic you believe as false to bolster your own argument? HELLO?
41 - Alethinos
Dave... I was chiding you for #6...
Even though KELO will have a wider effect on the population - BOTH are attacking, in different ways, the fundamental rights in the Bill of Rights. So, again, I don't think we need to be having an tug-o-war on which one is worse - neither is acceptable.
PS Dave, you're my favorite dude to mentally tussle with... I hate to admit this but my pappy and all his family are Texicans...
Alethinos...
42 - Dave Nalle
Well, I'll agree with you on #41, Alethinos. Both are unacceptable, but personally I'm more worried about Kelo, what with not having a womb and all.
BTW, regarding who's racist and who's not between the parties, we need only mention Michael "Uncle Tom" Steele and Colin "House Nigger" Powell to clear that up once and for all. Those epithets weren't put on them by their fellow Republicans.
Dave
43 - alienboy
Dave, please explain to me how Democrats calling Colin Powell a "house nigger" is racist?
44 - Dave Nalle
You're kidding, right?
Dave
45 - alienboy
No... go on, explain it.
46 - Dave Nalle
Ok, he's a black man and they called him a "house nigger." You try going to the nearest black neighborhood, walk into a bar and call someone at the bar a 'house nigger'. Let me know what you want written on your tombstone.
Dave
47 - Dave Nalle
Oiks, sorry. Forgot you were from Spain, AB. Maybe you actually DON'T know what I'm talking about.
In the old south - during slavery - a house nigger was a black slave who lived in the household of the master and ate his table scraps and usually tried to imitate the ways of the whites as well as likely informing on and spying on the other slaves. The term 'house nigger' basically means a black man who has betrayed his own race and and sold his soul to be a lap dog for his white masters. It's about as harsh a racist insult as you can apply to a black man. I can't even imagine anything equivalent in Spanish idiom.
Dave
48 - alienboy
Yes, I knew all that already thanks.
With regard to your #46, black people actually invented that term themselves, so traditionally there would have been no reason for a white person to use the term.
As for your slightly patronising #47, so the Democrats who said that (who were they by the way? you didn't say), were implying that Colin Powell was letting down his own section of American society. It is rude, but it isn't racist per se. I would have thought you'd have understood that straightaway with your keen political radar...
49 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
I was waiting for some exchange on this thread where someone would get into detail about racist insults.
Now that Alienboy has hoisted Dave Nalle on his own petard about "house niggers," I have my entrée.
In the Christian book, the term "Pharisee" is an insult to that politico-religious party of ancient Judea that tried to spread knowledge of Judaism to the population and to make Judaism more inclusive in its practice. And the entire tone of this thread has been insulting to that group of people - the ones who formed the basis of Judaism today.
It goes without saying that hypocrisy accompanies moralists like fleas do a street cat. This is true all over the world. In America, the instant case, there is enough hyposcrisy among the "new left" post moral politically correct crazies to make up for the many hypocrites on the other side of the fence.
As for the tone of much of this thread, we Jews also have a saying.
"What can you expect from a goy?"
50 - Anthony Grande
Yeah they might have helped in spreading Judaism but they tried to "abort" Christianity.
51 - Dave Nalle
Yes, I knew all that already thanks.
Then why did you ask me to explain it?
With regard to your #46, black people actually invented that term themselves, so traditionally there would have been no reason for a white person to use the term.
I think you're a bit off on that. It originated as a descriptive term used by whites and was then adapted as a derrogatory term by blacks.
As for your slightly patronising #47, so the Democrats who said that (who were they by the way? you didn't say),
Most famously Harry Belafonte, but it's all over left-leaning websites - just do a google search for it.
were implying that Colin Powell was letting down his own section of American society. It is rude, but it isn't racist per se. I would have thought you'd have understood that straightaway with your keen political radar...
When you use a derogatory term which refers to someone's race it's a racist slur. No two ways of looking at it. And the term 'house nigger' is particularly offensive with its implications of racial treachery and belittling of the target's manhood.
Dave