President Obama's Cairo Speech: A Worthwhile Effort or an Exercise in Narcissism? - Comments Page 2

President Obama's Cairo speech was full of sound and peacefulness, but signified little.

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  • 26 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 10:21 am

    Something this article seems to be missing. The non-'promotional literature' view of Israel. From someone called by some a self-hating Jew and by others an impeccable, factually irrefutable scholar.

    From Part 5: White phosphorous on making contact with human skin at a temperature of 1500 degree F. continues to burn right through the flesh to the bone. White phosphorous is often deployed on the ground to create a smokescreen. One might wonder how and why such a substance would get used in bombs that target civilians--such as a school holding 1600 refugees from the Gaza massacre, a hospital and the UN warehouse holding all the civilian aid.

    Video lecture about 6-10minutes each:
    Part 1 Finkelstein on Gaza: What to call it
    Part 2 Finkelstein on Gaza: Why?
    Part 3 Finkelstein on Gaza: Deterrence Capacity
    Part 4 Finkelstein on Gaza: We're Crazy
    Part 5 Finkelstein on Gaza: White Phosphorus
    Part 6 Finkelstein on Gaza: Education and War Crimes (1 of 2)
    Part 7 Finkelstein on Gaza: Education and War Crimes (2 of 2)
    Part 8 Finkelstein on Gaza: Defeating the Palestinian Peace Offensive (1 of 2)
    Part 9 Finkelstein on Gaza: Defeating the Palestinian Peace Offensive (2 of 2)

    Seeing Through the Lies
    The Facts About Hamas and the War on Gaza

    By NORMAN FINKELSTEIN

    "The record is fairly clear. You can find it on the Israeli website, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website. Israel broke the ceasefire by going into the Gaza and killing six or seven Palestinian militants. At that point"and now I’m quoting the official Israeli website"Hamas retaliated or, in retaliation for the Israeli attack, then launched the missiles.

    Now, as to the reason why, the record is fairly clear as well. According to Ha’aretz, Defense Minister Barak began plans for this invasion before the ceasefire even began. In fact, according to yesterday’s Ha’aretz, the plans for the invasion began in March. And the main reasons for the invasion, I think, are twofold. Number one; to enhance what Israel calls its deterrence capacity, which in layman’s language basically means Israel’s capacity to terrorize the region into submission. After their defeat in July 2006 in Lebanon, they felt it important to transmit the message that Israel is still a fighting force, still capable of terrorizing those who dare defy its word."

  • 27 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 10:35 am

    "...putting a shoe on a dead hoof."

    Ick.

    "...medical students practice on cadavers..."

    Double ick.

    As a trained massage therapist I am grateful that in school we practiced on live persons.

  • 28 - Dr Dreadful

    Jun 10, 2009 at 10:37 am

    Anyone want to talk about the elephant in the room?

    That is, Dave's staring failure to call his usual Godwin's Law foul.

    OK, maybe it's a pygmy hippopotamus rather than an elephant, but still.

  • 29 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 10:39 am

    Clav , if there is a dumbest jokes of 2009 contest you are on a roll. You are likely the winner as well as the first runner up, so far.

    That horseshoe crab one, that was really a stroke of brilliance.

  • 30 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 10:45 am

    Dr.D,

    Sounds good, unless it is a dead elephant or pygmy hippopotamus and will require having things nailed to it.

  • 31 - Clavos

    Jun 10, 2009 at 10:48 am

    Cindy,

    Modesty prevents me from preening...

  • 32 - Dr Dreadful

    Jun 10, 2009 at 10:51 am

    Clav's second joke doesn't work in my accent.

  • 33 - Dr Dreadful

    Jun 10, 2009 at 10:53 am

    I mean his third one. At first I thought the dead horse one was an earnest question. It must be too early in the morning for me. Where's that coffee? [gulp] Ah, that's better. What?

  • 34 - Clavos

    Jun 10, 2009 at 11:00 am

    Well, Doc, I have to admit it's a stretch in a Seppo accent as well.

    So, I'll quit horsing around...



    Thank you, folks! I'll be here all week.

    Don't forget to tip your editors!

  • 35 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Funny, it sounded fine why I tried it in a British accent. Maybe there is something wrong with Dr.D's accent.

    *Trips Dr.D*




  • 36 - Clavos

    Jun 10, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Sorry, Cindy, he's the Assistant Comments Editor -- you're on your own here.

  • 37 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 11:34 am

    why = when

  • 38 - mar k

    Jun 10, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Cindy...you're a trained massage therapist? That clinches it (shoer joke); I'm going to lobby to get our bigamy laws repealed.

  • 39 - Ruvy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    Cindy,

    You're a massage therapist? No wonder you like Norm Finkestein - the stupid fucker massages the facts. And boy, does he massage the facts. When he is done they are great fiction for the "poor Palestinians". And yes, I did mean stupid fucker. Not only is he a self-hating Jew who is a traitor to his people, he is a liar as well.

    The fitting punishment for that SOB is to be kidnapped, dropped of in Gaza or some town of Arabs where they really hate Jews, and for him to be dragged at the end of a pickup truck to a bunch of Arab women to tear him apart bone from bone likew they did to Ya'akov Mandell eight years ago (that's two different homicidal methods combined - it should work).

    I'm not supposed to wish death on a fellow Jew, but if this cock-sucker succeeds in convincing people of his lies, people like me and mine - also fellow Jews - will be murdered off like dogs.

  • 40 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    rofl

    See I knew it, a reformer just like all the revolutionaries. :-)

  • 41 - m Ark

    Jun 10, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    ...the dead hand of the past and all that

  • 42 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Hopefully, I will never be forced to work for someone else. It's either a teacher or work from home I am hoping.

    It was fun spending a year talking to people at school who were 'psychics' and finding out where my meridians were. One had to be sure on the national examine to know whether the heart chakra was connected to the moon chakra--or vice versa. I found out a lot of interesting things too--like lilac oil is good for your liver (or something) and you can get about $100 for healing people's 'energy'. The state actually requires a license now to wave your hands around over people's 'energy fields' and imagine...well whatever it is people imagine when they heal people's 'energy'.

    *Gee, I hope it's lilac oil, I'd hate to find out I have used the wrong thing and maybe done something horrible like unbalance my toxins or something. I have a feeling they are tottering just like in a Jenga game...one wrong move and kablooey.

  • 43 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Mark,

    One of the students became involved in horse massage. Do you know any horse massagers?

  • 44 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Ruvy,

    That was a much milder response than I had anticipated.

  • 45 - m aRk

    Jun 10, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    I was taught the more or less straight forward technique of 'meridian stripping' and never had to worry about essential oils and the like. Just had to learn not to take on others' crap.

  • 46 - m aRk

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Hey, this is Taos...I know a bunch of equine body workers from Tellington-Jones to acupuncturists.

  • 47 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Horses would be too muscular for me to massage. I am a weakling who prefers reasonably soft people. I am not optimistic about the size of the market for old mushy horses who need massages. :-)

  • 48 - Baronius

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    You two could open a place that massages and shoes dead horses. You probably wouldn't need a big place, either.

  • 49 - m ar k

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Malpractice insurance would probably be reasonable too.

  • 50 - Clavos

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    Do old horses get sentimental??



    Clavos, for the last time, STOP IT!

    Now go sit in the corner until you learn to stop punning...

  • 51 - Clavos

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    They could call it The Taos Defunct Equine Spa...

  • 52 - mar k

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    ...Clavos, I think we already have one here by that name.

  • 53 - Clavos

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Or maybe "Horse Heaven"

  • 54 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    LMAO Bar!!! That is hilarious.

  • 55 - mar k

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Here's the real thing: Equine Spirit Sanctuary

  • 56 - Clavos

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    mar k, do they do embalming and have a viewing room?

  • 57 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    That's very cool.

    I think Bindy is adorable! :-)

  • 58 - ma r k

    Jun 10, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    They are collecting donations...send your contributions to me, and I'll pass them along.

  • 59 - ma r k

    Jun 10, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    He really is.

  • 60 - ma r k

    Jun 10, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    When I trim him I have to get really really short.

  • 61 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    I would give them all free massages.

    Do you train any horse's Mark? I imagine you would prefer 'natural horseman' methods. I understand the horse whisperer movie was criticized by the real practitioners. But the ideas are interesting and appealing. Sort of like the dog whisperer dog training style, which I like very much.

    I will give Bindy some horse peppermints and a one month sponsorship. Could you email me where to send it?

  • 62 - ma r k

    Jun 10, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Very cool, Cindy! Isn't there a hook up on Ruth's site? If not, I'll e-mail you the telephone # and address.

  • 63 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    There is an email address there. Should I just write to that?

    p.s. massages offer only good for horses who don't try to kill me. :-)

  • 64 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    283 Cuchilla Road • Ranchos de Taos, New Mexico 87557
    575-758-1212

    Is that where I can send a check?

  • 65 - ma r k

    Jun 10, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    I think that address would work, but give Ruth a call to make sure.

  • 66 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    ok, cool, I will do that...nice video she has on youtube.

  • 67 - Baronius

    Jun 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Mark - That malpractice comment was time-released. About an hour after I read it, it occurred to me that to be sued, you'd not only need customers; you'd have to massage a dead horse *badly*.

  • 68 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    oh yikes...Clav, you have a competitor in your joke contest... :-)

    I just placed first in my hold'em tournament of 45 players. I am psyched enough to laugh at anything.


  • 69 - Clavos

    Jun 10, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Mark - That malpractice comment was time-released. About an hour after I read it, it occurred to me that to be sued, you'd not only need customers; you'd have to massage a dead horse *badly*.

    Is it malpractice to attempt to resuscitate a dead joke fest?

    If not, it should be...:>)*




    *Notice the nose, Cindy -- I've always done it that way.

  • 70 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    rofl =o) Indeed, I've noticed, some people are not to rushed to consider the nose.

  • 71 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    (Now we just have to get Mark to do an emoticon, that would be a funny sight.)

  • 72 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Let's wager Clav. If Mark ever did an emoticon would it have a nose or be noseless?

  • 73 - m a r k

    Jun 10, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    ?l??

  • 74 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    lmao

  • 75 - Cindy

    Jun 10, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Ckav, I am changing my wager. lol I think it will likely be missing a nose as well as eyes and a mouth.

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