He might mention that the reason the garbage doesn't always get picked up is bcause insurgent have a habit of shooting the garbage collectors, and hijacking thte trucks to build bombs into. Changes the equation, doesn't it?
I think part of the point is that if garbage collectors are getting shot in the Green Zone -- theoretically the safest place for coalition forces in Iraq -- then it's not a very good sign.
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MCH
Jun 07, 2005 at 5:22 pm
"Eric, the article you provided a link to is almost exactly a year old."
- Dave Nalle
Pretty scary when a former history teacher can't even tell the difference between 2004 and 2005. I guess that's why he's a FORMER teacher...
"Oh, so it's future news? Damn those sneaky bastards for dating their magazines ahead to increase shelf life."
- Dave Nalle
So typical of Nalle, whenever he makes a mistake, it's always somebody elses fault. When are you gonna take responsibility for your own actions, Nalle?
"In my defense, it sure didn't read like any news I've seen coming out of Iraq in the last six months."
- Dave Nalle
And also true to form, Nalle can never fess-up to a mistake like a man and admit that he was wrong about something...
re: "let's get the good and bad out there and give people in the US full coverage to let them see that what is achieved in Iraq as well as what the military faces, then they can decided if it's worth fighting for."
They need to look for other possible causes of birth defects before they try to pin it on the DU weapons. The endless petroleum fires are a much more likely cause than DU. Also, the cancer research needs to focus not on the overall rise of cancer, but on the incidence of specific unusual cancers associated with radiation, because radiation doesn't just cause an increase in cancer overall, it causes specific types of cancer.
The UN and the US DoD and other groups have done studies on the residue of the DU weapons and the general conclusion has been that unless you ingest the DU casing or it somehow gets into your bloodstream it's basically harmless.
Dave
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SFC SKI
Jun 07, 2005 at 8:19 pm
The DU argument has ben made before, but I don't believe it has been proven.
As for MilBlogs, here is a place to start: http://www.mudvillegazette.com/
this site does referrals and trackbacks, and has one of the largest blogrolls for both Military and Iraqi blogs, another source I should have mentioned.
Here's a BBC link of interest - it contains numerous descriptions of everyday life in Iraq.
Mark
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SFC SKI
Jun 07, 2005 at 11:30 pm
That was a really useful set of interviews, thanks.
If there is one great thing about the internet it is that there is information out there if not readily apparent.
10 or 15 years ago, these interviews might have been in a TV or radio feature, much as they are now on some news services, but if you missed the broadcst, you missed out. Now the information may lie dormant, but it is still retrievable, and very easily.
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SFC SKI
Jun 07, 2005 at 11:59 pm
Here's an opinion piece, but it presents a lot of facts as well
I really have to re-read that article on posting links.
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SFC SKI
Jun 08, 2005 at 8:58 am
Thanks for the assist.
I really like this site, too:
http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/
From what I've read through all these links it looks like Iraq is doing pretty well with recovery overall, so long as you're not in Baghdad. It sounds as if the terrorists resources are running thin and they're focusing everything in the Baghdad area and leaving more and more of the rest of the country alone.
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Article comments
26 - Eric Berlin
He might mention that the reason the garbage doesn't always get picked up is bcause insurgent have a habit of shooting the garbage collectors, and hijacking thte trucks to build bombs into. Changes the equation, doesn't it?
I think part of the point is that if garbage collectors are getting shot in the Green Zone -- theoretically the safest place for coalition forces in Iraq -- then it's not a very good sign.
27 - MCH
"Eric, the article you provided a link to is almost exactly a year old."
- Dave Nalle
Pretty scary when a former history teacher can't even tell the difference between 2004 and 2005. I guess that's why he's a FORMER teacher...
"Oh, so it's future news? Damn those sneaky bastards for dating their magazines ahead to increase shelf life."
- Dave Nalle
So typical of Nalle, whenever he makes a mistake, it's always somebody elses fault. When are you gonna take responsibility for your own actions, Nalle?
"In my defense, it sure didn't read like any news I've seen coming out of Iraq in the last six months."
- Dave Nalle
And also true to form, Nalle can never fess-up to a mistake like a man and admit that he was wrong about something...
28 - MDE
re: "let's get the good and bad out there and give people in the US full coverage to let them see that what is achieved in Iraq as well as what the military faces, then they can decided if it's worth fighting for."
SFC Ski gets the award for 'quote of the thread'.
good news
bad news
Mark
29 - MDE
more crappy news from Iraq
sad news
Someone needs to help me out with some good news stories...Hey SFC how about some links to those milbloggers.
Mark
30 - MDE
Here's what the socialists are reporting about the depleted uranium bad news.
And not everyone thinks that it's total BS. See Connecticut's recent action
31 - Dave Nalle
They need to look for other possible causes of birth defects before they try to pin it on the DU weapons. The endless petroleum fires are a much more likely cause than DU. Also, the cancer research needs to focus not on the overall rise of cancer, but on the incidence of specific unusual cancers associated with radiation, because radiation doesn't just cause an increase in cancer overall, it causes specific types of cancer.
The UN and the US DoD and other groups have done studies on the residue of the DU weapons and the general conclusion has been that unless you ingest the DU casing or it somehow gets into your bloodstream it's basically harmless.
Dave
32 - SFC SKI
The DU argument has ben made before, but I don't believe it has been proven.
As for MilBlogs, here is a place to start: http://www.mudvillegazette.com/
this site does referrals and trackbacks, and has one of the largest blogrolls for both Military and Iraqi blogs, another source I should have mentioned.
33 - MDE
re the DU question: research (hopefully well constructed) will tell.
re: " here is a place to start: mudvillegazette"
thanks for the link -
Mark
34 - MDE
Here's a BBC link of interest - it contains numerous descriptions of everyday life in Iraq.
Mark
35 - SFC SKI
That was a really useful set of interviews, thanks.
If there is one great thing about the internet it is that there is information out there if not readily apparent.
10 or 15 years ago, these interviews might have been in a TV or radio feature, much as they are now on some news services, but if you missed the broadcst, you missed out. Now the information may lie dormant, but it is still retrievable, and very easily.
36 - SFC SKI
Here's an opinion piece, but it presents a lot of facts as well
I really have to re-read that article on posting links.
37 - SFC SKI
Thanks for the assist.
I really like this site, too:
http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/
38 - Dave Nalle
From what I've read through all these links it looks like Iraq is doing pretty well with recovery overall, so long as you're not in Baghdad. It sounds as if the terrorists resources are running thin and they're focusing everything in the Baghdad area and leaving more and more of the rest of the country alone.
Dave