All of the factions within the GOP have different agendas, but they can't achieve any of their goals if they don't win in November.
Over at the DailyKos the nomination of Sarah Palin as the Republican Vice Presidential candidate has them running scared. One of their 'diarists' suggests that the Palin selection will be as divisive for the GOP as the competition between Obama and Clinton was for the Democrats and that the media will immediately leap on the situation and play up the disgruntled outrage of VP also-rans like Pawlenty and Romney. 'Chumley' writes:…
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26 - Dave Nalle
Samoa, you're repeating yourself - verging on spam. A common practice when Paultards feel they're being ignored.
And Zedd, you're delusional. Most of the 'common americans' are looking for something to save them from the oppression which the leftist elite has planned for them. They are looking to the GOP for hope and rescue, because the truth is that Republicans represent the average American who cannot identify with the leftist elite or survive the socialist agenda for the nation.
Dave
27 - Clavos
rouler
28 - Dave Nalle
Les bon temps aren't going to be roulering ever again, I'm afraid. It looks like Gustav is going to hit New Orleans as a Category 5, which means the city will cease to exist to the point where there will be no justification for rebuilding it.
I've got evacuees in my pool house and the spare bedroom and they're depleting the vital supplies of food which Samoa told me I had to lay in.
Dave
29 - Lost_in_Samoa
Dave,
Of course I'm repeating myself.
What else is there to do when you stick your fingers into your ears and go LA LA LA LA LA LA ..... I can't hear you .... LA LA LA LA!
You call it spam. I call it trying to break through your BS.
Listen Dave,
McCain is deeply flawed.
A very large part of this nation (Republicrat, Democan, Independents, Libertarian, Frisbee-tarian, Budist, Celtic, and the "All praise Ouchy the Clown" cult) does not like , trust, or respect him.
He has proven himself to be a liar and profiteer on too many documented occasions. He has no concern or regard for the people of this nation. To him we are livestock. Consumers. Revenue streams. Nothing more.
He has no understanding of the financial crisis facing this nation. He has no will to address the issue much less take the basic steps to fix the problems.
If each state GOP party had followed the electoral rules as laid out in their charter's, then McCain would not be the GOP nominee for president.
The fact that there were so man shenanigans in the electoral process should throw up red flags for all to see.
Was he selected by us, or FOR us?
And Mrs Palin as nice as she can be does not change these facts.
For your information I consider Mr. Obama to just as bad as McCain is.
I'm interested to see if Mr. Obama is really an American citizen or and Indonesian one. You know Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship.
It's all a show. It's all a game. McCain is the right hand and Obama is the left. And in the middle is the HUGE money interests that enslave you, me, and our children, and their children.
YOU HEARING ME NOW DAVE?
30 - Clavos
According to the 8PM EDT advisory from the National Hurricane Center here in Miami, while Gustav is expected to reach Cat 5 intensity as it traverses the Gulf (within 24 hrs, in fact), it is expected to drop back to Cat 4 by landfall.
That's small consolation to those in its path, however. I have been in both Cat 4 and Cat 5 storms; unless you're measuring with instruments, the difference is undetectable.
Any wind speeds over 130 mph (top of Cat 3) are horrendous.
31 - Clavos
A very large part of this nation (Republicrat, Democan, Independents, Libertarian, Frisbee-tarian, Budist, Celtic, and the "All praise Ouchy the Clown" cult) does not like , trust, or respect him...
...For your information I consider Mr. Obama to just as bad as McCain is.
Ah.
Well then, that would explain why they're so close in the polls.
32 - Dave Nalle
No, Samoa. I don't have time to waste on silliness and paranoid bullshit.
Clav, according to the Orland Sentinel Gustav is leaving Cuba as a Cat 5. Since the winds usually increase as hurricanes go over the warm water of the Gulf we might be looking at 200mph winds when it hits New Orleans.
Dave
33 - Lost_in_Samoa
Clavos,
You cannot have Bread and Circuses unless the contest is close. You have to keep the sheeple entertained. On the edge of their seats in fact.
They might develop the ability of critical, informed thought. And that would be disastrous to the real Money players that control our body politic.
You might find the works of Edward Louis Bernays an interesting and informative read.
34 - Lost_in_Samoa
I smell ignorance of the issues, which is causing fear of public embarrassment on your part, thinly disguised as indifference.
Come on debate some issues with me.
Let's start with foreign policy.
Or
Economic policy?
Your a "pundit", supposedly a man in the know.
How about a little free and open debate?
35 - Clavos
The Orlando Sentinel (and all media) get their info from the NHC. The NHC, of course, can't control what any medium publishes, but they are the ultimate source to which even The Weather Channel, etc. turn, which is why I go by their info, especially when they're headed my way.
They will put out a new bulletin here at 2300 EDT.
If you know something about tropical cyclones, click on "discussion" it's far more detailed than the Public advisory.
36 - Dave Nalle
Samoa, if you want to debate an issue other than the Sarah Palin nomination take it to a post on that topic.
I have no reason to believe that you won't just spew the same ridiculous paranoid garbage as the rest of the Paultards. That being the case I refer you to my site IdiotWars.com where you can feel free to post on the topics nearest and dearest to your heart.
The reason that I'm disinclined to debate you is that I've done the dance before and it's a waste of time to debate people who subscribe to a delusional perception of reality. For a debate to be meaningful both parties need to start from a basis in reality and fact.
Dave
37 - Lost_in_samoa
We can debate the issue of Mrs Palin's nomenation as VP.
My first question, What in her short time on this earth leads you to believe she is qualified to be one heartbeat away from the presidency?
On further thought, I have no reason to believe that you capable of engaging in an honest debate.
After all you are a paid proponent of a demonstratively corrupt governmental system.
I understand You're just DOING YOUR JOB. Just turning tricks for the man. And to hell with was all us great unwashed masses think.
I'll watch this thread for a day or so. You want to really discuss what's going on in the world, fine.
But be advised I'm weaned off of the mind numbing pap that you routinely serve up.
I'll come prepared with facts, figures, and documentation to prove that my "paranoid garbage" has already bitten you in your complacent butt.
Good luck with Gustav. I live in a cyclone alley and I know they are NO fun.
Cheers
38 - Mark Schannon
Dave, Dave, Dave, I lift myself from my lethargy to ask, "have you lost your mind?" Palin???
With experience as hockey mom, mayor of town of 4,000 people and 3,000 marmardukes, governor for less than 2 years of the 47th or 48th populous state in the union...with so much oil money sloshing around that they give it away to their citizens, a part time legislature, and her flip flopping on the all-important bridge to nowhere (or heaven, depending on your POV.) And no one's mentioned yet that she's a secret agent in the pay of the Lithuanian secret service!!!
Plus, she's John (Uh oh, my face is falling off) McCain's 3rd beauty queen. Now there's something that stirs one's loins. If you can't vote for them...oh well, you get the point.
Barak (Oy vey, what big ears you have) Obama spent 18 months battling his way to the top. Putin (or whatever her name is) has had such memorable quotes as, "What's the VP do day to day?" and "I don't think much about Iraq." Her kid's going there to get his balls blown off, and she doesn't think much about it.
She's a joke, a brilliant one-day move by John (Cindy, you're a cunt) McCain to steal what Pat Buchannan said was the most brilliant acceptance speech in history. And she's under investigation for abuse of power...but why would that upset the Bushies an Bushettes?
Gimme a break. When is someone going to finally say, "The ex-failed beauty queen ain't got no clothes to wear." Putin as Prez? I'd rather have Ron Paul.
Curmudgeon at Large
In Jameson Veritas
39 - Zedd
Clav,
You mean you have waisted all of this time on these boards for all of these years and you have no serious concern about politics. You dare yack on about "the babe" (with the Downs Syndrome infant that she is leaving to go after her dreams) when our country is in the worst condition it has been in a long time. You really don't care about politics. You are obviously here because you are lonely. Sad really.
40 - Dave Nalle
I think I hear the Jameson talking, Mark, though it's nice you stopped in for a visit.
Qualifications be damned. When Obama got nominated that requirement was out the door forever. Ethics too for that matter. I've never seen anyone involved in so many ethically questionable relationships in such a paltry political career before.
And as I said before, Palin is more qualified than Abe Lincoln or John F. Kennedy or Andrew Jackson and they seemed to be up to the job when it came to them.
The ethics investigation is piffle. It's a revenge campaign from the old-line porkmeisters Dan Young and Ted "Bridge to Nowhere" Stevens and their cronies in state government. There was no investigation planned until Palin requested the AG look into the situation to clear her of the accusations.
As for her comments about the vice presidency, let me share some other comments about the job.
“The vice-presidency isn't worth a pitcher of warm piss” - VP John Nance Garner
"[The Vice Presidency] is the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived." - VP John Adams
"A little over a week ago, I took a rather unusual step for a vice president…I said something." - VP Spiro T. Agnew
"Look at all the Vice Presidents in history. Where are they? They were about as useful as a cow's fifth teat." - VP Harry S. Truman
"The Vice Presidency is a most honorable office, but for a young man there is not much to do." - VP Theodore Roosevelt
So what Palin said about the Vice Presidency echoes almost exactly the opinions of most other Vice Presidents, including three who went on to become among our greatest Presidents. She's in pretty damned good company.
Dave
41 - Lost_in_samoa
So What are you saying there Dave?
We should embrace unqualified people for office?
Encourage appearance over function?
Snuggle the walking photo op? (well that's not a bad idea on one level)
Hey wait a second .... you may be on to something there.
I mean we have struggled and fought and wasted so much time, money, and heart electing a bunch of unqualified, larcenous, perverted, inept, apathetic, self serving bozo's to run this country.
And for what?
Tangled up in a war with and aboriginal enemy that has never in the history of human kind been beaten on his own turf. On one front. Afghanistan.
Mired in a guerrilla fight in the cities of one of our misguided satellite pseudo-colonies with virtually no hope of a cessation of hostilities. On another front. Iraq.
Looking at starting yet another front in a neighboring nation. A three front war? isn't called being surrounded? Iran.
Borrowing tens of billions of dollars a day from an avowed enemy just to finance all of this.
I mean a situation like that could not have been arrived at accidentally. We are talking major, heart stopping, bone grinding HUBRIS.
We surely could get better leadership results by
Uhmmmmm............
Playing eeny meeeny miny mo?
Drawing straws?
Flipping a coin?
Spin the bottle?
How about a lottery? Everyone in the nation enters. Every elected position is drawn for. Every four years.
I truly believe that we as a nation would be better governed if every elected official was chosen at random.
Sweep away all of those little kingdoms of power.
Hell.... anything would be better than the choices we have been presented with in recent decades.
So maybe your right. Let the soccer mom be VP.
Lost_in_Samoa
42 - Pablo
Lost_in_Samoa,
Dave does not debate period. What he does is to first bait you, with some typical right wing bullshit, then when you disagree with him, he will then start to belittle you, as in being a condescending snob, he quite frankly for the most part does not know what he is talking about.
As you can plainly see from the dialogue here what has happened Samoa, he invariably gets ruder and ruder, then his side kick Clavos will come in with some 2 liner, always trying to back Dave's right wing narrow minded viewpoints. Sure he will take an issue like drug laws, and his opposition to them to act as if he is really for liberty, and discussion, but he is not, I know better than anyone on this forum about his style, as I engage him frequently and for the most part only get back name calling. It is his forte.
So good luck debating him, I guarantee you that he will continue to be rude and condscending, thats the only way he knows how to communicate to anyone with a differing viewpoint than his own.
I do like your writing Samoa, but take a word from the wise, dont take any shit from him, and call him on it.
Just my two sense worth Davey boy, and side kick Clavy.
43 - Mark Schannon
Pablo, sorry to disagree, but I've been arguing with ol' Dave for a long time, but he's never been rude or condescending...just annoyingly data crazed.
And Dave, I'll have you know that Jameson wasn't in any way responsible for my post. It was Bushmills...so I made a mistake...kill me.
Love the quotes about VP, but at least they knew what the office was about. And you'd like someone one more cancer attack from the Prezidenzy to have some idea about Iraq other than we're fighting a stupid war there.
Forget experience. Sure, Obama's lack of experience should give people pause. Just like Lincoln's, Truman's, Kennedy's, Reagan's, Carter's, Clinton's, and ol Bushed his-self. Think about judgment and the anvil of media scrutiny. Like him or not, ol' Jug Ears has endured 18 months of intense and virulent attacks and has emerged as someone about whom one can at least make a reasoned decision--assuming people make reasoned decisions.
Putin, on the other hand, is going to undergo one debate, kid glove treatment from the Dems (unless they're smart enough to unleash the dogs of non-affiliated Obamaites) and the media, and will take office, should the worst happen, with absolutely no idea of what the Prezidenzy is, let alone the U.S.
And look at the lame elephant bleatings about her: she understands foreign policy because Alaska's next to Russia; she's a hockey mom so she understands competition; she was head of a national guard (which is controlled by the Feds who don't even bother to let her know what's going on) so she understands the military...good grief, man, she's a complete joke.
Except...she's got the elephant right dancing in the streets...except for those for whom dancing is a sin.
Stop it, Dave. I expect better from you. So there. Neener, neener, neener.
Curmudgeon-At-Large
In Jameson Veritas
44 - Dave Nalle
Mark, I've been a Palin supporter since before she was even being considered for the job. She's got what it takes to be a major political leader, and I'd rather have her get her training at the national level as VP than see Obama getting that training as president.
McCain isn't going to die. His mom is 97 and still going strong. Hell, he could leave his next outbreaks of skin cancer untreated and he'd last 4 years before they killed him. He may retire after 4 years, but by then Palin ought to be ready to take over.
Yes, some of the arguments for her are lame. But no lamer than the arguments for Obama and no lamer than the arguments being raised against her.
I know you can be objective. LOOK at his record. As a legislator he's been undistinguished and his experience beyond that is utterly worthless. You're more qualified than he is and so am I.
And remember the point of my earlier comment. Her comment about the Vice Presidency was meant humorously, obviously. Like anyone else sensible she realizes that the VP slot is mostly window dressing and not to be taken terribly seriously.
Dave
45 - Ruvy
It looks like Gustav is going to hit New Orleans as a Category 5, which means the city will cease to exist to the point where there will be no justification for rebuilding it.
Maybe you remember that article I wrote about Hurricane Katrina a while back? I distinctly remember telling Clavos that I did not believe New Orleans would rise as a city again. If the weather service and you are both right, I too, will be proven right.
And just so that you can enjoy how a Jew seeking Redemption views this storm and its twin, Hanna, I give you America's Perfect Storm.
And I once walked through a hurricane as a kid in New York. If you don't know any better, they are not so bad. At ten, I didn't know any better....
46 - Ruvy
Mark!
Nice to see your comments again! Will we have to wait another six months for the next spate? By the way, this Irish lady I know is coming to Israel next year and bringing in some Bushmills - just what my ticker needs, you know....
47 - Clavos
Actually, Ruvy, As of the latest NHC bulletin (5PM EDT), Gustav is presently a Cat 3, but expected to strengthen to a low Cat 4 by landfall, about 50 miles west of NOLA. Or not -- that's the nature of weather (especially hurricane) forecasting.
Still, as I mentioned on another thread, having been through both a Cat 5 and a Cat 4, I can tell you there's not much difference to be felt between 155mph (top cat 4) and 175, or even 200. Anything above 125 is pretty horrendous.
In NOLA's case, however, it's the water that's deadly.
48 - Dr Dreadful
Not to rain on the author of your linked blog's parade, Ruvy, but Tropical Storm Hanna has not 'joined' Gustav and is not 'lined up' with it 'like planes coming in to land'. Gustav tracked south of Hispaniola and Cuba before deciding to head for the Gulf Coast to see what it could find there, and Hanna is approaching the Bahamas on a path that has taken it well to the north of the Caribbean. It is not following Gustav into the Gulf and is, in fact, currently forecast to swan off up Florida's Atlantic coast and to remain a tropical storm, at least for now.
As Clavos cautions, things can change, and Gustav looks as if it is going to be bad enough; but at the moment Hanna looks just as likely to peter out into a wet fart as to strengthen into a meteorological apocalypse.
49 - Dave Nalle
It looks like it's not Hanna that's going to be the serious follow up to Gustav. Tropical depression 10 looks like it's shaping up to be the nasty one when it comes over here in a week or two.
Dave
50 - Joel
Zedd: I am disturbed by this "hot mom" of 5 with a mentally retarded infant who is galavanting all over the nation running for office
She can't help it that she had a liberal baby.
51 - Mark Schannon
Ruvy, how you doing, my friend. I'm doing a lot better but I still can't seem to write or handle anything terribly complex...hush the rest of you that I never could.
But at least I can post comments now & again. And tell that Irish lass to bring you Middletons...or at least Jameson.
Dave, there's no question that Obama's creds are somewhat thin, but I won't go through that list of Prez's again with similar lack of experience. And while I share some concerns about him, he's not only withstood and overcome constant blasting from all sides, he's put together one of the most impressive campaign organizations ever. Given the options, I support him & hope he's as good as he seems.
As for Putin, other than having a liberal baby (great one, Joel) and being against everything I believe in, she's a hottie, alright!
Curmudgeon-At-Large
In Jameson Veritas
52 - Cannonshop
She can't help it that she had a liberal baby.
Ew, Joel, even I wouldn't stoop so far as to say that. Libs, after all, CHOOSE to be that way. They aren't born that way, and they can CHOOSE to change their minds (though most don't-kind of like religious people, embracing a worldview based on faith and assumptions.)
53 - Dave Nalle
Oh, come on, Cannon, you've got to admit that's one HELL of a punchline.
Dave
54 - Joanne Huspek
There is so much wrong with some of these comments, I'm going to have to write my own article. Just know I was here and I read it, Dave.
55 - Cannonshop
I know, Dave, but before I got married, I dated a gal who worked with the developmentally disabled at a halfway house. the comparison is absolutely unfair. I'd suspect most retarded folks would find it offensive to be compared to Libs.
56 - Cannonshop
To be a bit more clear- the mentally handicapped are far less likely to engage in the practice of pretending to be nice out of a sense of either guilt, or to achieve some nonexistent moral superiority, they're less likely to lie for no reason, and they react rather badly to being lied to, once they are aware of the truth.
They don't practice Hypocrisy.
57 - Dave Nalle
Well, then there's no way they could stand democrat politics in the US.
Dave
58 - bliffle
Another string of childish ad hominem attacks for people to waste time on.
59 - Cannonshop
well...yeah. I thought that was kind of the point of bringing up weird rumours of bastard children and such, not to mention obsessing about her family life or confusing what she did in policy with what she believes in private.
You know, what passes for political discourse these days.
60 - Cobra
Dave,
Are you SURE you're a Sarah Palin fan? Have you, oh...even glimpsed at the news lately?
Sen. John McCain, recklessly, irresponsibly did NOT vet this candidate.
When the BEST scandal/association/skeleton in her closet is her 17 year old daughter being pregnant...
Don't believe me?
Just look at the front page of today's Huffington Post.
I predict a Harriet Miers-style withdrawal within two weeks.
--Cobra
61 - Dave Nalle
Cobra, HuffPo has been posting repeats of the same partisan hit pieces for several days. I've already seen them. They're nothing but propaganda from a site which has no legitimacy or moral authority and just shills for the left.
There's nothing new. They have posts about Todd Palin's 22 year old DUI. Give me a break. The fact that Palin has them so scared is something I find quite encouraging.
Dave
62 - Lisa Solod Warren
Fascinating article from an Alaskan correspondent in today's TIME (which, I hope, Dave, you won't call a "liberal" publication). This, along with everything else, just makes me realize how completely, incredibly, astonishingly, unsuitable she is for VP. Not to mention, of course, except over and over and over and over and over, that she has no, none, nada foreign policy experience.
63 - Cobra
Dave,
I suppose you feel that way about ABC News, right?
"Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.
And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."
After refraining from commenting on the charge for a day, the McCain campaign on Tuesday asserted that Palin was never a member of the AIP.
But Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time."
And then of course if you don't believe ABC News, you can try... Your own eyes. There are accompanying clips with AIP members:
"At 6:00 Dexter Clark, Vice Chairman of the AIP says: "Our current governor, we mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected. There's a joke, she's a pretty good looking gal, there's a joke goes around we're the coldest state with the hottest governor. And there was a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town -- that was a non-partisan job. But you get along to go along -- she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won't go into that. She also had about an 80% approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership."
Who are you going to believe more? McCain flacks or your own eyes and ears?
--Cobra
64 - Christopher Rose
Cobra: two things - please don't use "more than" arrows to indicate quotes, the quotation marks do a fine job of that all by themselves and the arrowheads can interfere with the site html. Please don't post raw links but properly formatted ones as I have done for you above. If you don't know how, here is an easy to understand explanation of how to format a link.
Thanks.
Christopher Rose
Blogcritics Comments Editor
65 - Dave Nalle
Cobra, the AIP association has been known since well before the election. I don't personally have a problem with it. Politics in Alaska is different, as I've said before.
In fact, the connection to the AIP is one of the things which many libertarians find encouraging about Palin, as the AIP has a libertarian bent to it.
And I don't see how being involved with the AIP is scandalous or troubling in any way.
Dave
66 - Clavos
Fascinating article from an Alaskan correspondent in today's TIME (which, I hope, Dave, you won't call a "liberal" publication).
Depends on your POV. I switched my subscription from Time to USNWR years ago, because I found Time to be slanted too far left for me.
This, along with everything else, just makes me realize how completely, incredibly, astonishingly, unsuitable she is for VP.
So don't vote for her. Maybe your side will win and she'll be a moot point.
67 - Cobra
Dave,
You gotta be kidding me. What Election campaign have you been watching?
Hate Radio hosts, Right winged bloggers and Fox News have the torches and pitchforks out for Michelle Obama for saying America is a "mean country", and "for the first time in my life I've really been proud of my country."
Michelle Obama is NOT on the ticket in the 2008 Election, but that doesn't stop them.
Now, it comes to our attention that the Palins were involved with a group advocating Alaskan Secession? A group whose founder, Joe Volger, once said this:
"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
But people aren't supposed to ask any questions about this, Dave?
Do you want me to cite some of Palin's public prayers about the Iraq War being "God's Will?"
Do you want me to quote some of HER Pastor's sermons, where he said critics of George W. Bush were going to hell?
Conservatives set themselves up for this by having that unsuccessful witch-hunt against the Obamas. And now...
The chickens have indeed come home to roost.
--Cobra
68 - Dave Nalle
Hate Radio hosts,
We don't have Air America here in Austin anymore, so I don't get hate radio in my car.
Right winged bloggers and Fox News have the torches and pitchforks out for Michelle Obama for saying America is a "mean country", and "for the first time in my life I've really been proud of my country."
Yep. I've seen some comments like that. Go over and read Freep sometime and you'll find plenty. Nothing on the scale of the attacks on Palin, of course.
Michelle Obama is NOT on the ticket in the 2008 Election, but that doesn't stop them.
Hillary's ambitions show us how irrelevant that claim is.
Now, it comes to our attention that the Palins were involved with a group advocating Alaskan Secession? A group whose founder, Joe Volger, once said this:
"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
But people aren't supposed to ask any questions about this, Dave?
When did I say that, Cobra. I said that I didn't have a problem with it. And people SHOULD ask questions about it, because if you ask questions you find out that Palin was never registered as a member of the AIP.
Do you want me to cite some of Palin's public prayers about the Iraq War being "God's Will?"
Do you want me to quote some of HER Pastor's sermons, where he said critics of George W. Bush were going to hell?
No, I'm not into the whole sermon thing. I got cured some years ago.
Dave
Conservatives set themselves up for this by having that unsuccessful witch-hunt against the Obamas. And now...
The chickens have indeed come home to roost.
69 - Pablo
"Do you want me to cite some of Palin's public prayers about the Iraq War being "God's Will?"
No Dave, would you like me to show you the reference where Palin said that the War in Iraq was about Oil bubba?
70 - Robert
Dave has a book called 101 Ad Hominem attacks. Apparently it is the only reference volume at his disposal.
Dave, do you masquerade as a journalist? How would your professors grade these pearls of wisdom?
I know, how about debating the issues instead? Oh my! If you can't recall any issues after all the name calling how about this one...
No more foreign aid until 1) We can afford it (US has $9T+ in debt), 2) a Constitutional amendment is passed to allow for it.
71 - Dave Nalle
Pablo, I've already seen both the God's Will quote - which is generally taken out of context and the oil quote, which was more of a question than a statement and is also usually taken out of context.
Robert, I do write the occasional article for the local paper, usually restaurant and book reviews. I don't consider myself a journalist in the traditional sense and I'm certainly not one of the useless fools who graduate from journalism schools.
My professors taught things like Democraphics, History, Economics and Literature. Most of them would be horrified by the content of my writing - since most were marxists.
BTW, do you even know what an ad hominem is or how to recognize when you're engaging in it youself?
As for the foreign aid issue, what does it have to do with Palin and her role in uniting the GOP, which is the topic of this article.
Go look up one of my foreign policy articles and we can discuss it there. But for the record, I agree we should eliminate almost all foreign aid, but of course I also have actually READ the constitution and know that we don't need an amendment to give foreign aid. Ever hear of Tripoli?
Dave
72 - Jet
It's amazing to me that anything that the right wing can't explain away is "taken out of context."
73 - Dave Nalle
Jet, that's a useful explanation for anyone when they see something that is well, taken out of context. As quotes often are, regardless of the political side we're talking about.
Dave