Is the Zionist regime really the Islamic world's biggest problem? Or is irrational obsession over Israel a much more real and dangerous problem.
At the recent Arab Conference of Iraqi Neighbors in Tehran (sounds so innocuous, doesn‘t it?), Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad imparted these words of wisdom to his audience:
“The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime, and the Islamic world and the region must mobilize to remove this problem. It is a . . . regime that prevented the progress of the region’s nations . . .”…
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26 - Debbie
Wonderful post. I enjoyed every word and you are so right! I've posted on all this, but not with the lovely humor that you use.
I have been reading some Muslim websites, commenting when appropriate, and you would not believe some of the responses. They do not want two states living side-by-side in peace. They want Israel gone. I'm talking about Muslims who live all over the world, even in the USA. It is so obvious that they don't even try to hide their desires. They want to take over the world and that is what they say, no appologies. Shari'ah Law is best and we should just accept the fact that we will live under it, pay their taxes, or die. Period.
Wake up world.
27 - SFC SKI
It's great, terrorists want to kill Americans, Israelis, and Westerners, and the biggest point of contention is "What is a Neo-Con?"
Hezbollah members and their ilk have a definition of Neocon, liberal, and conservative: target.
Keep missing the point and the bigger picture.
28 - Dave Nalle
Dean, unlike you I actually know what Neocon means, and I can assure you that the watered down conservatism of Fox News is hardly what the Necons believe in. You probably think the Neocons are actually conservatives.
Dave
29 - Bliffle
Dean: you should try reading ANY history book about the mideast. I don't need to read any more history books, and I'm old: I lived thru the whole Israel/arab thing.
I don't carry a brief for the Israelis. For one thing, I'll never forgive them for the USS Liberty attack. But, IMO, if the arabs thought for one minute they could overwhelm Israel they would, and almost every muslim in the world would cheer as they exterminated the 5 million people therein, jews or not. And who do you think they would point their Big Bad Hate Machine at next?
30 - Bliffle
gazelle: "hizbollah and its supporter ARE the MAJORITY of the LEBANESE people."
Yes. And that's why Israel is justified to attack even civilian centers in this de facto war.
"somehow this fact is not filtering through."
Sure it is. I got it, did you? Israel and Lebanon are at war. Not Israel and hezbolah, but Israel and Lebanon.
"hizbollah supporters are the civilians being killed and that is also unacceptable."
Yes, the civilians support hezbolah, and that is why lebanese cilvilian deaths are acceptable. Or are you going to claim that the deaths of Israelis killed by rockets are unacceptable? Did I see you protesting when hezbolah rockets were killing Israeli civilians? Was that unacceptable?
"among the 600 dead (compared to israels 45?) according to jan egeland one-third are children."
That's what happens when you launch rockets from schools and other civilian locations.
"open your eyes guys. or open yourself to internatinal media. get some multiperspective news. you are missing the reality of this."
International media? You mean those ME papers drenched with the bloody pictures of dead people? Too porno for me. Too psycho.
31 - Dave Nalle
Actually, recent polls in Lebanon show very divided results on what the Lebanese support. They may support Hezbollah, but they are also the most pro-Israeli people in the Arab world, and they're extremely hostile to terrorism and islamic fundamentalist. I'm working on an article about it and other topics lebanese.
Dave
32 - Dean
SKI -- pay attention:
"terrorists want to kill Americans, Israelis, and Westerners..."
Right.
Ever wonder why terrorists don't want to kill Japanese, Chinese, Swedes, Eskimos, etc...?
Think about it.
"and the biggest point of contention is "What is a Neo-Con?"
Neocons are those who put Israeli interests above those of the United States. That should be a big point of contention for any American.
Now you have the point and the big picture.
If you don't know who they are, the neocons are very visible on the Fox News Channel.
33 - Dave Nalle
That's a pretty unusual definition of Neocon. I doubt anyone familiar with the group would recognize it. You seem to have confused Neocons with Zionists or AIPAC.
If you don't know who they are, the neocons are very visible on the Fox News Channel.
Yes, they'd be the ones like William Kristol, Richard Perle and Francis Fukuyama who are brought on Fox to criticize the administration's foreign policy.
Dave
34 - Apollo
"Ever wonder why terrorists don't want to kill Japanese, Chinese, Swedes, Eskimos, etc...?"
Dean, ever wondered why? Have u looked at a world map? No geographical contiguity that's all.
wait...i spoke too soon. They do want to kill chinese. Have u heard of Uighur rebellion in the province of xinjiang.
But they do want to kill Indians, Russians, thais, filipinos, australians, nigerians etc...
35 - Bliffle
"Ever wonder why terrorists don't want to kill Japanese, Chinese, Swedes, Eskimos, etc...?"
Maybe they just haven't gotten around to those guys, yet, being so busy with all their other killing duties.
36 - Dean
Neocons are those who put Israeli interests above those of the United States. That should be a big point of contention for any American
Dave responds: “That's a pretty unusual definition of Neocon. I doubt anyone familiar with the group would recognize it. You seem to have confused Neocons with Zionists or AIPAC.”
Dave is on to something.
All three groups “put Israeli interests above those of the United States.”
If you don’t know who they are, the neocons are very visible on the Fox News Channel.
Dave responds: “Yes, they'd be the ones like William Kristol, Richard Perle and Francis Fukuyama who are brought on Fox to criticize the administration's foreign policy.”
Dave, you didn’t explain why they are there.
They are brought on Fox to “criticize the administration’s foreign policy” for not starting more of the wars they promote.
Apollo says:
Terrorists don't want to kill Japanese, Chinese, Swedes, Eskimos, etc., because there is “no geographical contiguity that's all.“
Really? They believe New York City has “geographical contiguity” with them?
37 - Dave Nalle
And they DO want to kill Swedes, they just haven't been given an opportunity because the Swedes haven't allowed the same unbridled immigration as some of the other Scandinavian countries.
Dave
38 - Dean
Dave says:
"And they DO want to kill Swedes, they just haven't been given an opportunity because the Swedes haven't allowed the same unbridled immigration as some of the other Scandinavian countries."
Dave believes "immigration" was the root cause of the terrorist attack of 9/11.
Tell us more, Dave...
39 - Dave Nalle
No, Dean. How the hell do you get that idea? Immigration has been a big factor in creating opportunities for violence in European nations.
The attacks on 9/11 hit America and not someone else because we're their #1 target. It doesn't mean there aren't other targets of Jihadist violence, including targets of opportunity.
Dave
40 - Dean
Dave is confused again.
He now says:
“Immigration has been a big factor in creating opportunities for violence in European nations.”
Yup. But that has nothing to do with the attack on 9/11.
“The attacks on 9/11 hit America and not someone else because we're their #1 target. “
Just don’t blame “unbridled immigration” for 9/11.
41 - gazelle
#30 bliffle:
as i was saying you really cant see a thing can you?
international media:
bbc, guardian, cnn intertnational, AP, reuters, IPSnews
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42 - Dave Nalle
Just don't blame "unbridled immigration" for 9/11.
I never did, Dean. That was your fantasy. Though I do think that border security is important in preventing another 9/11.
dave
43 - Dean
Dave remains confused.
What Dave said:
“Immigration has been a big factor in creating opportunities for violence…”
and,
“The attacks on 9/11 hit America and not someone else because we're their #1 target.”
America’s concern is what happened on 9/11, not violence everywhere in the world.
That includes violence by the Basques in Spain, the IRA in Northern Ireland, the Chechnyans in Russia, Tibetans in China, etc.
"Immigration" didn't make us the #1 target on 9/11.
So don’t confuse “immigration” and “the attacks on 9/11“ -- unless you continue to be confused.
44 - Dave Nalle
Dean, I love the way you cut the words 'in Europe' out of my statement so it no longer means the same thing. That kind of simple distortion doesn't fly when the original quote is just a few comments above it, sorry.
Dave
45 - Bush
True,well said,i agree with the brave national iranian leader,israel is acancer,and it must be removed not only for the good sake of muslims nation,but for the whole world, believe me, go and see there daily massacres,and u will have the same feeling
46 - Dave Nalle
By daily massacres I assume you mean the Israelis killed by suicide bombers?
Dave
47 - Dean
Daily massacres should mean both Israelis killed by Arabs and and Arabs killed by Israelis. The ratio ranges from 3 to 1 up to 20 to 1 or more. The other difference is most Israelis are killed by individual terrorist acts and most Arabs are killed by state terrorism.
48 - Les Slater
SFC SKI #7
"If the last Israeli were to swim west into the Mediterranean in order to appease the Arabs, it would not bring peace, stability, or contentment amongst the Arabs. In fact, if the Arab despots did not have Israel to blame for their problems, they nmight actually have to come up with solutions on their own, and that may terrify them more than war does."
You are getting very close to the ONLY reason Israel was created and why it still exists.
Do you think the U.S. or any other imperialist power ever gave one shit of concern for the life or safety of any Jew?
49 - Dave Nalle
Solutions? If Israel magically disappeared the Shiites and Sunnis and Wahabis would be slaughtering each other in holy wars all over the middle east.
Dave
50 - Les Slater
Israel will not magically disappear.
51 - Dean
"If Israel magically disappeared the Shiites and Sunnis and Wahabis would be slaughtering each other in holy wars all over the middle east."
Why?
Would someone else have reason to invade Iraq?
52 - Les Slater
Dave #49
It's not just the Jews that are being played as pawns, it's all the peoples in the area.
A start to a solution would be a realization of this by all. The hand of the U.S. has been exposed. Beware of the UN.
53 - Dave Nalle
Why, Dean? Because they don't agree on basic interpretation of Islamic law and history and consider each other to be heretics who defile the religion they subscribe to.
Les, I didn't quite get the point of your last paragraph.
Dave
54 - Les Slater
Dave,
My last paragraph of what # comment?
Les
55 - Dean
Dave says:
"Because they don't agree on basic interpretation of Islamic law and history and consider each other to be heretics who defile the religion they subscribe to."
Is it pure coincidence that they took to killing each other only after the US invaded Iraq?
56 - Dave Nalle
All the invasion of Iraq did was give them a convenient opportunity to fight by taking off the controls of Saddam's dictatorial regime. It's a microcosm of what would happen to the whole region if Israel were not a unifying factor.
Dave
57 - gazelle
#56 Dave:
kind of like the LA riots. what happens when the law and police are removed and not replaced by anything even sufficiently good enough, like the firing of all iraqi police and army and the present iraqi govt. it is natural then for underlying tensin to then explode. that a more realistic explanation of the chaos in iraq and the wider middle east, which was created as the british and french were leaving it in the forties along with the the "creation" of a "new" previously nonexistent israel.
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58 - Bliffle
Dave: "And they DO want to kill Swedes, they just haven't been given an opportunity because the Swedes haven't allowed the same unbridled immigration as some of the other Scandinavian countries."
Actually, there is quite a bit of islamic crap going on in Malmo Sweden. The usual crap: unemployment, illiteracy, welfare, high birthrates, street gangs, violence, demands for services, demands for privileges, general truculence, etc.
59 - Richard Brodie
take a tour of some of the left-wing blogs and you will read some of the most despicable, mind-blowing stuff imaginable praising the terrorists of Hezbollah and comparing Israelis to Nazis.
Click on my URL (a right-wing news site) and read a recent article ("Friends True and False"), BY AN ISRAELI, praising the "steadfast warriors of Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah", and condemning his own government for its recent bloody agressions against Palestine and Lebanon.
60 - Richard Brodie
If Israel magically disappeared the Shiites and Sunnis and Wahabis would be slaughtering each other in holy wars all over the middle east.
Which is one of the reasons such a disappearance would be such a good thing. Let them have their own culture of perpetual internecine strife, and they would be less inclined to take out their pent-up frustrations on civilized, Western countries.
61 - Dave Nalle
Richard, are you planning on having two lines to the showers, one for jews and one for mexicans, or will they just be mixed in together in the same line? Or is it worth it to build entirely separate facilities based on race?
And BTW, it's not news that there are self-hating Jews in Israel.
Dave
62 - Richard Brodie
self-hating Jews
Do you also call people "self-hating Americans" if they criticize THEIR government - Or is "self-hating" an epithet uniquely reserved for those Jews intelligent enough to see-through and oppose the Zionist butchers?
63 - Bliffle
Why don't the muslims kill the swedes? Well, they do, and rape, too:
All following links to major Swedish newspapers, with a brief translation: aftonbladet.se
Malmø, Sweden. The police now publicly admit what many Scandinavians have known for a long time: They no longer control the situation in the nations's third largest city. It is effectively ruled by violent gangs of Muslim immigrants. Some of the Muslims have lived in the area of Rosengård, Malmø, for twenty years, and still don't know how to read or write Swedish. Ambulance personnel are attacked by stones or weapons, and refuse to help anybody in the area without police escort. The immigrants also spit at them when they come to help. Recently, an Albanian youth was stabbed by an Arab, and was left bleeding to death on the ground while the ambulance waited for the police to arrive. The police themselves hesitate to enter parts of their own city unless they have several patrols, and need to have guards to watch their cars, otherwise they will be vandalized. "Something drastic has to be done, or much more blood will be spilled" says one of the locals.
expressen.se
Rapes in Sweden as a whole have increased by 17% just since the beginning of 2003, and have had a dramatic increase during the past decade. Gang rapes, usually involving Muslim immigrant males and native Swedish girls, have become commonplace. Two weeks ago, 5 Kurds brutally raped a 13-year-old Swedish girl.
aftonbladet.se
22-year-old Swedish woman going out for fresh air gang raped by three strange men. The only said one word to her: "Whore!"
64 - RUVY IN JERUSALEM
Greg,
I read your article. Funny how a lot of the ideas look awful familiar to me. Great job! Kol hakavod! All honor to you!
65 - RUVY IN JERUSALEM
SFC SKI @#7,
You nailed it on the head!
66 - gazelle
fukuyama has already bowed out. quite late, but wisely.
After neoconservatism
#63 that pretty much like blaming the irish ...
some fukuyama for you:
Living Dangerously
or
Europe vs Rad Islam
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67 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
Bliffle,
The Europeans made a pact with the devil and are now paying for it. Either they do not wish to do unskilled work, or do not wish to have many children (children cost money - lots of money).
So in comes the cheap labor - mostly Moslems from Arab world, and they bring their culture with them. In their eyes an unescorted woman dressed in a manner that they view as immodest is a prostitute and deserves to be raped.
The solution is relatively simple - you castrate the bastards or kill them - but Europeans don't want to look uncivilized and listen to finger wagging lectures by sheikhs in sheets. Solution? Put you women on the block to be gang-raped and look the other way.
Is it smart? No. Is it right? No. But, that's life in Europe; love it or leave it.
68 - Christopher Rose
Ruvy, why is it okay in your mind for you to keep dissing Europe but you object to people outside the Middle East opining on it?
69 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
Chris,
I'm just a simple minded Jew who can read. The book "Eurabia" deals eith this very topic. But Chris, you live in Europe. Presumably, you know better of the place than I. Deliver yourself of your views on the matter. Go tell me how true this series of articles quoted in comment #63 are. Can you give a perspective from Spain?
70 - Christopher Rose
Well, I'm just a simple minded humanoid that can read.
Sure, there are some rising cultural tensions in Europe but that is true everywhere except for the most homogenous of cultures and there aren't many of them left these days, certainly not in the West.
Personally, I blame Judaism, Christianity and Islam, which are three of the greatest crimes against humanity ever and the cause of so much unnecessary conflict in the world.
As one of the most outspoken and zealous supporters of your criminal cult, how much responsibility for things do you feel?
I feel like a freedom fighter trying to liberate people's minds from these pervasive lies.
71 - Dean
"Personally, I blame Judaism, Christianity and Islam, which are three of the greatest crimes against humanity ever and the cause of so much unnecessary conflict in the world. "
On the surface, yes.
But dig further and see if the tenets of the religion support what is done in its name,
In most cases, it is the perversion of the tenets for political purposes by "adherents" who don't give a damn about the core beliefs of what they pretend to believe.
72 - Bergman Goldlover
Guys, why are you wasting your time arguing in a Zionist website? Go and start your own magazines and have the low lifes come to us and argue. Leave this nonsense Article which obviously is another tool to make people think Jews are the friends of world. They are popping up all over the place from China to Northpole, where ever the money moves, suddenly they pop up. I still can't figure out how those Chinese Jews are related to the David Bloodline at all...... God Save Us from this financial torture machine. I wonder what is up their sleeves next... first credit cards, next credit jobs... And for all the dogs, I got gold, woof woof, come after me, but first you have to lick my butt