Obama and Taxes: Do As I Say, Not As I Do - Comments Page 2

Author: Published: Apr 16, 2012 at 5:45 am 55 comments

Obama's own taxes violate his proposals for the rest of us.

Why do more than half the people in this country pay no income taxes at all, while President Barack Hussein Obama keeps insisting that everyone must "pay his fair share?" For over half of citizens, is that their fair share? Or is creating more recipients of government handouts, at no cost to themselves, simply a strategy to gain more votes? The current federal debt burden works out at about $140,000 per federal taxpayer. Are you one of those taxpayers, the unlucky less than half? Obama is proposing to increase both debt and taxes. How much more do you want added to your $140,000 debt burden? Is your fair share $140,000?
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  • 26 - Zingzing

    Apr 16, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Sigh. Just did my taxes. Horrifying. Self employment is a bitch.

  • 27 - Jet "The research department" Gardner

    Apr 16, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Jesus, how many times to I have to post this before it gets through Warren's Maher Bubble?



    Income tax on the wealthy.

    Eisenhower (R) 91%
    Kennedy (D) 77%
    Johnson (D) 70%
    Nixon (R) 70%
    Ford (R) 70%
    Carter (D) 70%
    Reagan (R) 70% and 50%
    Bush (R) 38.5 and 28%
    Clinton (D) 39.6%
    Bush (R) 35%
    Hussein Obama (D) 35%

    Hussein Obama's taxes on the rich are HALF-FUCKING HALF of your hero Reagan, Nixon and just over a THIRD of Eisenhower.

  • 28 - Jet "The research department" Gardner

    Apr 16, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    He could wile away the hours
    Conferrin' with the flowers
    Consultin' with the rain
    And his head he'd be scratchin'
    While his thoughts were busy hatchin'
    If he only had a brain

    He'd unravel any riddle
    For any individ'le
    In trouble or in pain

    He would not be any trouble,
    If he could escape that Maher bubble,
    If he only had a brain…
    With the thoughts he’d be thinkin'
    He could be another Lincoln
    If he only had a brain

    Oh, he would tell you why
    The ocean's near the shore
    He could think of things he never thunk before
    And then he'd sit and think some more

    He would not be just a nuffin'
    his head all full of stuffin'
    his heart all full of pain
    He would dance and be merry
    Life would be a ding-a-derry
    Ifffffff he only had a brainnnn

    He would not be any trouble,
    If he could escape that Maher bubble,
    If he only had a brain…

  • 29 - Glenn Contrarian

    Apr 16, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    zing -

    I know how you feel....

  • 30 - Glenn Contrarian

    Apr 16, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Jet -

    Don't you know that in Warren World, during Republican administayionsn no Americans paid any taxes at all....

  • 31 - Jet "The research department" Gardner

    Apr 16, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Well, not the republicans anyway.

  • 32 - Glenn Contrarian

    Apr 16, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    Jet, only the Republicans were REAL Americans. The rest of us were welfare queens and draft dodgers. Speaking of which, I rarely reference blogs, but this was too good to pass up - a list of Democratic and Republican politicians (and political pundits) who did and did not serve. The word "chickenhawk" strongly comes to mind - particularly when it comes to Dubya's "champagne squadron" that he served in to get out of Vietnam.

  • 33 - Glenn Contrarian

    Apr 16, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    sorry - here's the link.

  • 34 - Warren Beatty

    Apr 16, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Re: comment # 1, Glenn, you MAY find this reference interesting. Gee, I'll bet you feel foolish now. That goes for you, too, Jet, as you so aptly demonstrated in connent # 14.

    You say, "And you griped about how the Obamas are paying a lower rate than their secretary...which is EXACTLY what the Obamas are griping about." Wrong-O! I just illustrated the hypocricy of Obama. He complained about Buffett's tax rate being lower than his secretary's. Yet he does what he complains about others doing. I NEVER griped.

    Re: comment # 8, referring to Clavos' comments # 6 and 7, Clavos, was I correct?

    Re: comment # 11, ZZ, as Reagan said, "Facts are stubborn things." Or do you deny the 414-0 vote? And do you deny that Democrats had an opportunity to vote for Obama's budger proposal?

    Re: comment # 16, Jet, do you deny that "Hussein" is Obama's middle name? You say, "That, my friend has racism all over it, and you are blind if you can't see it." OK, Jet, tell us how the name given him by his parents is racist. We ALL want to know.

    Re: comment # 27, Jet "The research department" Gardner, what you posted has NOTHING to do with my article. But let's pretend that what you say is relevant. You quote the tax rates Reagan inherited from (the second biggest joke) Carter, not the final tax rates. And you call yourself "The research department." Are you, perhaps, having trouble with that "Maher Bubble?"

    Glenn, Jet, ZZ, Doc, Igor, I could not help but notice that NONE of y'all addressed Marjorie Rawls Roberts or Tim GGeithner.

  • 35 - Jordan Harper Richardson

    Apr 16, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    STOP SAYING "Y'ALL!"

  • 36 - Warren Beatty

    Apr 16, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Re: comment # 35, Jordan, sorry to omit y'all from # 34.

  • 37 - Jordan Harper Richardson

    Apr 16, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Gee, Warren, I'll start addressing your "points" when you start addressing mine.

    (I still think you're faking it, baby)

  • 38 - Warren Beatty

    Apr 16, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Re: comment # 37, Jordan, y'all say, "(I still think you're faking it, baby)"

    Just what, pray tell, does that mean?

    BTW, Jordan, y'all are not from the south, are y'all?

    Have I gotten enough "y'alls" in? Jordan, do y'all know I making fun of y'all?

  • 39 - Dr Hussein Dreadful

    Apr 16, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Warren, the expression "put up or shut up" means "either propose a solution or stop complaining".

    So, since I've yet to see you do anything except complain about (mostly imaginary) Obama shortcomings, I ask you again: where have you "put up"?

  • 40 - Dr Hussein Dreadful

    Apr 16, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Jordan, he's from the South. Easier for him to stop breathing than to quit saying "y'all".

  • 41 - Jordan Richardson

    Apr 16, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    Over on one of your other "articles" (honestly, they all blend together), I explained that I thought you were a parody and subsequently pulling our collective legs.

    Now I'm convinced.

    do y'all know I making fun of y'all?

    I left the door open pretty wide, Warren. I'd be surprised you didn't take the bait. It'd be like you resisting country fresh pies on the windowsill, boy.

  • 42 - zingzing

    Apr 16, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    i'm from the south, doc. i can also use y'all correctly, unlike warren here.

    warren: "Or do you deny the 414-0 vote?"

    please. go on acting dumb then.

  • 43 - El Bicho

    Apr 16, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    "do you deny that Democrats had an opportunity to vote for Obama's budger[sp] proposal?"

    I do because that's not entirely accurate. Do you deny "Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.), the sponsor of the alternative, was using Obama's top-line spending and revenue numbers as a budget proposal, without any specifics?"

    It shows how intellectually bankrupt Congressional Republicans and Warren are that they have to resort to distortion to score points.

  • 44 - Warren Beatty

    Apr 16, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Re: comment # 39, Doc, Glenn, in comment # 5, said, "It doesn't matter what Obama did or how well he did it. He could have done everything you ever wanted, and you'd still find excuses to hate him. Why? Because he's a black guy ...." Well, on my personal web site (which I personally maintain) are links to Drs. Sowell and Williams, both black guys. I have linked to two black guys, and read their learned opinions often, and usually agree with their assessments.

    Here is the what YOUR source said about "put up or shut up:" if you say someone should put up or shut up, you mean they should either take action in order to do what they have been talking about or stop talking about it. OK, I've "put up" by referring to links on my web page. I've demonstrated that Glenn is, as he said in comment # 5, full of crap. Now it's his turn to demonstrate that I hate black guys or shut up about the subject. I formaly challenge Glenn to "put up or shut up."


  • 45 - Jordan Richardson

    Apr 16, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    You personally maintain your personal website? Wow!

  • 46 - Jet "y'all" Gardner

    Apr 16, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    Warren, please read just the last sentence of my 2006 article and consider how unoriginal and vacant of thought you actually are.


    AND STOP USING MY TAG LINE

  • 47 - Glenn Contrarian

    Apr 16, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Warren -

    "I linked to two guys who are black!" Oh, wow, THAT's really proof that you don't like black guys, huh? Apparently you think I don't remember what the Delta taught me about race, Warren, for I saw first hand how farmers would speak highly of this or that black guy, invite his family over for supper, lend him money or even the car...and as soon as the black guy and his family was out of sight, it was back to "n-word this" and "n-word that". I saw it, and I lived it. Okay? Got that? Your excuse doesn't hold a drop of water as far as I'm concerned.

    It's pretty obvious - you're a white male, probably older than me, strongly conservative, given to taking the word of some of the most nonsensical conservative sites. That tells me that you have zero problem with the not-so-secretly-racist dog-whistle crap that some conservative pundits put out there...and you know the Delta very well, which means you know the racial divides that run through every social and religious and political issue there, and yet you still stick on the side of people like Haley Barbour who claimed that racism "wasn't so bad" when he was growing up in Yazoo City. That all adds up to something I don't like, something I see all too often.

    You might be a good-hearted person, Warren. You might very well be the type to give the proverbial shirt off your back to help someone else (though I'm quite sure you'd never assume the same about me). But you've let enough of yourself slip out over the months - and I see what I see.

  • 48 - Dr Hussein Dreadful

    Apr 16, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    Fair enough, Warren, but only as far as Glenn's race fixation goes.

    The broader accusation, that you persistently portray Obama getting things 100% wrong and 0% right (an extraordinary feat which, if verified, he is quite possibly the only person in human history to accomplish), stands, IMO: you have not "put up" there.

    Also, your articles here at BC have really got to stand on their own merits. Taking refuge in "I've addressed this on my own website" is a cop-out. Imagine if, back in college, your sociology professor set a homework assignment and you came back with "I already answered this in my political science class". Care to hazard a guess what grade you'd get?

  • 49 - Jet Gardner

    Apr 16, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Y'know it occurs to me... just which Hussein did his daddy name him after? Barack's daddy could read the future and know about the dictator of Iraq 30+ years before it happened.

    Barack's daddy was a remarkable one of them thar forchuuune tellers.



    Another question to ponder if if he forged his birth certificate, don't ya think he'd pick a more American-friendly name to run for president on??? or at least one that'd hide that he was an evil socialist spy from Kenya over thar in Africa?

  • 50 - El Bicho

    Apr 16, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    "Imagine if, back in college..."

    Warren in college? Thanks for the laugh

  • 51 - Glenn Contrarian

    Apr 16, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    Doc -

    'Race fixation'? Yes, I know it could seem that way to those who may not have seen just how comprehensively it's woven into the social fabric of the Deep South. I'll admit that I tend to be too suspicious by half when it comes to catching a possible whiff of racism. Thing is, I know this smacks of hubris, but when I get someone figured out when it comes to racism, I'm not often wrong. It's just like an ex-smoker who sees the physical signs of a chain-smoker, or a woman who has escaped from an abusive husband and recovered, who sees the same signs in the timid, quiet girl in the checkout counter. Mild racism - that of 'good racists', as I've stated in the past - can be hidden...but that of those whose racism isn't so mild is not so easily hidden.

    On a lighter note, something to bring a smile to your face - ever live in a place that smelled like a pig sty? Well, my house over in the PI smells like one now. It seems the squatters on the other side of the wall decided to start raising pigs. Whew, that'll wake you up in the morning!

  • 52 - Warren Beatty

    Apr 17, 2012 at 7:05 am

    Re: comment # 39, Doc, I could not help noticing Glenn did NOT accept my challenge.

    Re: comment # 43, El B, really? Well, this source may interest you. Further, are you quoting this source? If so, you "forgot" to mention that it comes from "The Hill," a librul mouthpiece. Even further, "On the House floor, Budget Committee Ranking Member Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) agreed that Mulvaney's amendment was not, in fact, Obama's entire budget proposal." (1) What would you expect a Democrat, who just voted against it, to say? Was he looking for cover? (2) With whom did Van Hollen agree? The article tries to make it appear that Van Hollen agrees with Mulvaney. Can you shed more light upon with just who Van Hollen agrees with?

    Re: comment # 46, Jet, did you copyright that tag line? Have you told Dennis Miller the same thing? I NEVER claimed it to be original. Rather, it expresses my thoughts after viewing the thoughts of others.

    Re: comment # 47, Glenn, is that your answer to my challenge? You say "...THAT's really proof that you don't like black guys, huh?" Did you mean to omit the word "don't?" As for the rest of your comment, actions speak much louder than words.

  • 53 - Dr Hussein Dreadful

    Apr 17, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Warren, you're trying to convince us that turkeys would vote for Thanksgiving. You know perfectly well why the Mulvaney amendment was voted down. You think (wrongly) that we are all stupid, which is why you are continuing your protestations of innocence. It's pathetic, sunshine.

    Rep. Mulvaney also knew perfectly well what he was doing, what the outcome would be, and the resulting propaganda value. He thinks (perhaps not wrongly) that the American electorate is stupid.

    Let's have Rep. Van Hollen explain some more, from your own source:

    '"This is politics at its absolute worst: presenting something as the President's budget without the policy detail, without the explanation to the American people about what's in the President's budget," he said. "And as a result, he presents a very misleading version of what the President has asked us to do."'

    Let's say you're a member of a school board. It's time to buy a new fleet of school buses. You and the rest of the board have looked at a bunch of models and selected the bus you want. The contract has been drawn up and you're about to vote on it, but there's an issue. A couple of other board members, who don't like you and have been looking for an opportunity to make you look foolish, have made some last-minute changes to the contract: the buses will be delivered, but they won't have any engines.

    How would you vote?

  • 54 - Glenn Contrarian

    Apr 17, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Warren -

    As far as your 'challenge' goes, I'm not playing your game. I'm not playing by your rules. I'm not giving you the chance to present extremist views and logical fallacies as sensible dialogue. Why? Because you have exposed enough of your personality that I am able to see what kind of person you are. You know what you want, and you place such priority on that personal goal that you're willing to ignore provable fact, provable history, and clear logic in order to reach that goal.

  • 55 - Keith Barnes

    Apr 18, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Mr. Beatty obviously lives in an alternate reality. I could think of hundreds of arguments disputing many points of this piece, but why bother when he refuses to be reasoned with in any sane manner as evidenced by the many attempts above already?

    Warren needs to get out more and experience the real political world.

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