News Analysis From Israel: The Imminence of War with Iran, Part II - Page 3

Author: RuvyPublished: Mar 19, 2007 at 6:54 pm 56 comments

He added, "When dirty bombs go off all over Western towns, who is going to stop the Iranians?"

The Iranian leaders need what the Finns call "sisu", the hair-raising, white-knuckled nerve to dare to do outrageous things, and the patience of carpet weavers and chess players to accomplish their war aims. They have both. In addition, the Iranian president, Ahmdinejad, has a vision, a messianic vision of what he needs to do. The Israel government, composed of elites who have lost faith in their essential mission in the world, has repeatedly demonstrated that it has none of these things. The American government relies on its outsized arrogance, bred of an outsized perception of its own power, to accomplish its war aims. And while a small elite in Washington may be aware of those war aims, the population of the United States has been fed a confusing diet of mixed signals by politicians who clearly do not know what these war aims are, or if they do, are not willing to admit them to the American public.

The Iranian leaders do not need nukes. Dirty bombs will do just as well, along with an electro-magnetic pulse thrown in to cripple the computers and other electronic webbing the Americans and Israelis rely on so heavily.

And now a look at the Book of Daniel: "At the time of the end the king of the south shall attack him. But the king of the north shall rush upon him like a whirlwind, with chariots and horsemen, and with many ships. He shall advance against countries and pass through like a flood. He shall come into the beautiful land, and tens of thousands shall fall victim, but Edom and Moab and the main part of the Ammonites shall escape from his power". [Daniel 11:40-41]

Why look at this dusty Bible, at the prophecies of a Jew who lived in the days of the fall of the Babylonian Empire? Because the pudding is in the eating, and in the prophecy we see above, the "king of the south" is interpreted by our scholars to be a coalition of Arab nations led by Persia, the modern day Iran. The "beautiful land" is interpreted to mean Israel. There is a huge fleet sitting off the coast of Lebanon, and another sitting off the coast of Iran in the Persian Gulf. The "Persians" have as allies Syria and HizbAllah, and could possibly take over several Gulf nations which have either Iranian majorities living in them, or substantial Iranian minorities. A "Persian" attack would consist of, among other things, firing its missiles in the hands of its puppet, HizbAllah, at Israel, a repetition, this time with worse consequences, of the Lebanon war of last year.

Continued on the next page Page 1Page 2 — Page 3 — Page 4

Article tags

Spread the word
Bookmark and Share
Profile image for ruvy

Article Author: Ruvy

Ruvy was born in Brooklyn and lived in Minnesota for a number of years. There he managed restaurants and wrote stories. He moved with his family to Israel where they now reside. He is published by Jewish Indy, as well as by Desicritics.org.

Visit Ruvy's author pageRuvy's Blog

Read comments on this article, and add some feedback of your own

Article comments

— go to most recent comments
  • 1 - jewish brother

    Mar 19, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    ayatollah khomeini used to say something!

    to wash every jew to sea! watch for iranian water canons too! :D

  • 2 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 20, 2007 at 12:06 pm

    National Socialism and Anti-Semitism in the Arab World, by Matthias Küntzel is for the next fool who wants to call Israel a Nazi state or an apartheid state.

    Read the link. It will remind you who are the spiritual heirs to the Nazi party in today's world.

  • 3 - moonraven

    Mar 20, 2007 at 2:26 pm

    Ruvy,

    1. It's "THE PROOF of the pudding is in the eating". If you are going to use sayings at least get them right.

    2. This "fool" says Israel is a Nazi and apartheid state--no shade of doubt about that.

    3. Iran is a great country with an enormous culture and history. Israel--on the other hand--should be de-countrified.

  • 4 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 20, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    Gosh, Marthe,

    "...the next fool..."

    I whistled your name and you came a-running.

    Either you didn't read the link, or your ideology will not let you accept the truth about these monsters. And yes, Marthe you are ruled by ideological beliefs as deep as your roots, whether you admit them or not. So don't bother arguing...

    Nevertheless, you are right about the saying. "The proof of the pudding is in the eating." My bad for not catching it, and the editor's bad, for not catching it either.

    Iran is a great country - that is going to face terrible destruction in the near future. Those are my ideological beliefs, and they, like yours, are as deep as my roots - about 110 generations worth of roots.

    Thank you for stoppin' by.

  • 5 - moonraven

    Mar 20, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    Iran will probably prevail.

    The US and Israel, however, will not.

    Good news for me.

  • 6 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 20, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    Marthe, if you're going to keep stopping by, I'll put on the coffee for you. Do you like humus or jam on your pita? Or would you prefer coffee cake?

    The U.S. will not prevail. Iran will not prevail. You've already seen what has happened to Iraq.

    There will likely be terrible destruction in this country, and the "State" of Israel may well cease to exist. But in the end there will be a Jewish entity that will prevail - and the Arabs WILL NOT rule here ever.

    By the way, did you say you wanted sugar in your coffee - or honey?

  • 7 - moonraven

    Mar 20, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    Coffee: straight

    Pita: Mutab'l, please

    You see, Ruvy, Iraq was history long before the US invasion. It was one of the pieces that the winners of WWI created in order to prevent the fusion of Arab/Muslim countries.

    Iran is a whole different kettle of fish--I doubt that it even misses that part of Afghanistan. (Maybe some residual phantom pain....)

    Israel has a history of disappearing. It will again.

    The US hasn't been around long enough for anybody to even miss it.

    Of course it may be all academic if the Mayans and Hopis are right about the end of the Fifth World. Supposedly Dec. 21, 2012. Yesterday I read an alternative date: November 28 (my birthday!), 2011.

  • 8 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 20, 2007 at 6:10 pm

    Marthe,

    I see we look at the same kinds of signs for "drastic change" to occur. My own sources tell of Indians meeting at various campfires around the States warning of a disaster in the near future. There are several cycles to look at, and the Hopi and Maya Long Cycle is just one of them. But others may occur before 2011 or 2012. There are a number of cycles in our rabbinic calendar that come to a close in the next couple of years.

    In any event, the Talmud posits that the messiah will have completed his tasks by the rabbinic year 5790, or 2030. By completing his tasks, I mean that there will be a Temple on whatever remains of the Temple Mount, the enemies of this nation will have been crushed (this would include the U.S government, the EU and the Vatican, as well as Iran) and it is entirely possible that a reconciliation between the Children of Abraham will be underway (see Isaiah 60).

    And, as I said, a different Jewish entity will be firmly in place.

    Enjoy the pita, mutab'l and coffee. I have to get my beauty sleep.

  • 9 - moonraven

    Mar 20, 2007 at 6:36 pm

    The difference is that you have faith--and I don't.

  • 10 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 20, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    Then we understand each other clearly, Marthe.

    Goodnight.

  • 11 - JustOneMan

    Mar 21, 2007 at 10:42 am

    False Advertising - This is NOT news from Israel. This post is sounds more like the ramblings of a member of a cult who is desperrate to justify their belief that they are Gods chosen people.

    Very sad!

    JOM

  • 12 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 21, 2007 at 11:29 am

    The Washington Times reports on the rearmament of HizbAllah. The article ends with the following:

    in the Feb. 26 Times of London, veteran Lebanon-based journalist Nicholas Blanford reported that Hezbollah is also building a new system of fortifications and expanding old military positions north of the Litani River, just outside the area manned by UNIFIL. A Shi'ite businessman with links to Hezbollah has been buying large quantities of land from local Druze and Christians -- land that many Lebanese believe is about to become a Hezbollah military zone. A growing number of signs suggest that Hezbollah has decided to escalate the situation with Israel -- and with its fellow Lebanese.

  • 13 - JustOneMan

    Mar 21, 2007 at 11:51 am

    yawwnnnnn....no we are quoting old newspaper stories....how pathetic!

    jom

  • 14 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 21, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    It keeps you reading, JOM. That'll do for me.

  • 15 - JustOneMan

    Mar 21, 2007 at 1:11 pm

    gee...more like watching and old feeble, impotent, demented man eating matzo soup in a dinner...

    Borrrrrriiiiiinnnngggggg....

  • 16 - Victor Plenty

    Mar 21, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    To be called boring by JOM is to receive high praise indeed. Not nearly so great as having Moonraven call you a Nazi, but both of these esteemed personages have a knack for calling things the exact opposite of what they really are.

    Congratulations, Ruvy.

  • 17 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 21, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    Thank you for the kind words, Victor. I don't like Marthe's politics, but I can appreciate the contribution she could make to the website if she chose to write articles.

    She writes with the perspective of an outsider who is determined not to be a victim of history.

    She didn't call me a Nazi, by the way. That was the appellation she stuck on the State. It's wrong, but Israel is not a democracy except in the notional sense. The elite that runs this country does not recognize the legitimacy of any vision for the country other that its own, and this has effectively killed off any democracy that might have developed here. Instead, it has left us with a kulturkampf between Jews that will kill the legitimacy of the State, and a crippled foreign and domestic policy that will result in war and much destruction here.

  • 18 - moonraven

    Mar 22, 2007 at 2:23 pm

    Maybe I should have just said "fascist" state?

  • 19 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 22, 2007 at 3:13 pm

    Actually, Marthe, it is only my pickiness about using political labels correctly that stops me from agreeing completely with you.

    The State of Israel is a notional democracy quickly moving towards a totalitarian state (hidden by parliamentary "procedure"). Zionism has become a shadow of what it was supposed to be (all predicted by rabbinic messianic tradition); the joyous culture of building a country (that was once Zionism) has become substituted with a pathetic imitation of American and European culture and a regime that does not even believe in what it pretends to. As I've pointed put elsewhere, it is on its way to collapse.

  • 20 - moonraven

    Mar 22, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    Fortunately, it will go down when the US bites the dust.

  • 21 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 23, 2007 at 9:21 am

    One of the reasons I expect this government to collapse is found in this story in Arutz Sheva about blatant double standards in the way justice is administered here.

    The story reads in part,

    The Ynet news service prominently featured an "exclusive" film of a Border Guard policeman hitting an Arab youth near Shechem on Wednesday, after repeated rock-throwing attacks on Israeli jeeps in the area. The next day, Ynet proudly announced that as a result of its report, Border Guard Commander Hassein Fares had suspended the policeman and his two partners from active service.

    The three suspected Border Guard policemen were summoned to the Department for Investigating Policemen (Machash) Friday morning to explain their actions.

    The head of the Machash Investigative unit, Avi Peretz, said that despite the film, the policemen would be summoned to give their version of the events: "Despite all, we have to hear the suspects' version. In similar cases, policemen have even been sent to jail... We still have not found the complainant, but I hope that we will receive an official complaint [from him]."


    It then continues to cite how Border Guards who mistreat Jews are treated:

    a resident of Hevron, provided some examples:
    "Mounted policeman Dudu Edry, who has been indicted of trampling Yehuda Etzion in Amona over a year ago, has not been suspended. Policeman Yaniv Reuveni, who was photographed choking a boy from Netzer Hazani during the Disengagement protests, has not been suspended. Police officer Yechiel Amsalem kicked and broke the jaw of a protestor, yet has not been suspended from active duty..."

  • 22 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 23, 2007 at 10:45 am

    Iran seizes up to 15 British troops in the Persian Gulf
    By AP AND JPOST STAFF

    This article from the Jerusalem Post is about how Iran is provoking a confrontation with western powers. While I should be surprised - I did not expect this kind of event to occur for several months yet - it is this kind of event that can bring about an attack on Iran.

    At the present time, according to the Post and the AP, the British Ministry of Defense is ".... urgently pursuing this matter with the Iranian authorities at the highest level and ... the Iranian ambassador has been summoned to the Foreign Office," the ministry said.
    "The British government is demanding the immediate and safe return of our people and equipment."

    We'll see how this all develops.

  • 23 - Les Slater

    Mar 23, 2007 at 10:58 am

    "I did not expect this kind of event to occur for several months yet - it is this kind of event that can bring about an attack on Iran."

    Sounds rather suspicious to me. The U.S. certainly has a long history of such provocations like Ton kin Gulf incident. I wouldn't put it past Britain to do likewise.

  • 24 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Mar 23, 2007 at 11:22 am

    Les,

    Nice to see you here.

    The reason I expect to see more of a provocation from Iran is the prophecy from Daniel [Daniel 11:40-41] quoted above.

    But I could be wrong. The Hebrew reads as follows. "B'ét ketz yitnagáH mélekh hanégev..." which can be translated as "at the time of the end, the king of the south shall push at (or attack)". A "push" could be the blustering threats along with a minimal military provocation (such as we see in the story). But somehow, I think it will be more.

    Gotta run.

    Sabbath has arrived, and I have to be OFF this computer. Shabbat Shalom.

  • 25 - Les Slater

    Mar 23, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    Iranian state television reported that Iran has summoned the top British diplomat there, to protest what Iran said are British sailors illegally entering Iranian waters.

Add your comment, speak your mind

Personal attacks are NOT allowed.
Please read our comment policy.
Please preview your comment.

blogcritics lists for Nov 12, 2009

fresh articles Most recent articles site-wide

fresh comments Most recent comments site-wide

most comments Most comments in 24hrs

top writers Most prolific Blogcritics for October

top commenters Most prolific Commenters in 24 hrs