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— go to most recent comments76 - Jordan Richardson
Oh, and Cao, I hopped over to your website because I was tipped off from your fans coming over saying "Great article as usual." Obviously I thought, "This appears to be her first one..."
Anywho, Cao's Blog is interesting. I especially like all of the Islamic conspiracy theory stuff you have up. Very classy. The Sarah Connor banner at the top, though, that really sets the tone.
*thumbs up*
77 - Jordan Richardson
Nah, Jet. I'm not asking him to admit he's wrong. I'm asking him to clarify if he thinks he's actually right.
78 - Jet
DO ANY OF YOU IDIOTS THINK YOU'RE SWAYING ANYONE WITH THIS "WHO'S GOT THE BEST COMEBACK CONTEST???
79 - Jet
Oh... well that'd different Jordan... carry on... at your own risk my friend
80 - Arch Conservative
Jordan that was meant to be a little tongue in cheek.
Obviously middle America is not some completely homgenous group when viewed from all of the economic, social, and political viewpoints.
However when one refers to middle America what usually comes to mind first is the financial situation in which one finds one's self.
Certainly most people would agree that Sarah Palin has far more in common with those who would be considered middle america or middle class because of the amount of money they make than either Obama, Biden, or McCain.
81 - Jet
According to McCain, middle America is anyone under $5 million a year, and I don't know too many people who can empathise with a state governor, who up until recently (by her own admission) waited two years in office to get rid of the private chef and the luxury jet that came with the job, in case anyone noticed she really isn't one of the "regular people"
82 - Jordan Richardson
So you're suggesting that the reason people say Sarah Palin represents Middle America is because of economic similarities?
I know full well that the idea is to paint Palin as a picture of blue-collar life. She wants Middle America to believe that she has struggled like them and has economic insecurity, like them.
The problem is that her husband's two jobs alone put the Palins above what most blue-collar Americans make in a year, with his occupation contribution reaching $93,000 annually. That doesn't count her salary of $125,000 annually.
Indeed, Palin's entire set-up as a working class hero appears rather shaky.
83 - Condor
"Hmmmmm, you mean like the notion that Saddam Hussein was the one that attacked the Twin Towers and therefore we should go into Iraq and bomb the hell out of a country and kill thousands of innocent women and children and make a million people refugees? Like that like that became "truth?" Or that one that we are "winning" this "war?" -- Lisa
Oh you mean like writing every seated senator and your representatives and telling them that the terriost act was an act of criminality and not to involve the military? As I recall EVERYBODY was beating the drum on that one. Don't you remember?
84 - Condor
The Palins live in Alaska. Owning a fishing fleet is big money. Work with oil on the Northern Slope is also a well paid occupation.
I would think that they might be pulling down 200K, give or take. Which isn't bad for Alaska, and actually after expenses, probably normal.
I have a buddy in Tampa who puts up blinds... sold over 4Mil in inventory last year alone. There's money out there.
But you'll never make any of it working for somebody else.
85 - Ruvy
Silas quoteth,
According to the prophecies of St. Malachy there remains one Pope and then the end of the Church as we know it. I know it may be strange to hear me remark on prophecy but I find interesting that it's not the "end of the world" it's the end of the Church.
I know this wasn't a nail you intended to hit on the head - but you did anyway. Redemption means the end of the Christian church. In fact, Silas, you made my day.... You really gotta watch how you swing that prophetic hammer, dude. You can really hurt your thumb if you're not careful.
86 - Cao
The Pope is not the Church, I think you've hijacked the thread onto a subject that wasn't even mentioned in the article.
Try to focus.
87 - Arch Conservative
The McCains, Bidens and Obamas are all millionaires.
The Palins are not.
The McCains, Bidens, and Obamas are all Washington insiders who hobknob around with other washington insiders. Tha Palins are not.
McCain Biden and Obama all went to elite schools. Sarah Palin didn't.
Sarah Palin does in fact have much more in commone withmore Americans than Biden, Obama, or McCain.
88 - Jordan Richardson
Cao, that tends to happen around here. On your own site, you can control the comments as you see fit. I'd especially be wary of those comments that decry the "real war" in America...you know, the one versus the "peace movement."
Speaking of focus, do you intend to ignore the comments directed at you in posts #65, #67, and #68. I think they speak to the premise of your piece and I'd like to see what your basic responses are.
89 - Jordan Richardson
Arch, if I take you correctly, you state that Palin has more in common with Middle America than the other candidates running in the election.
You base this on whether or not the Palins are millionaires, Washington insiders, and attendees at elite schools. Gosh, you've sure got me there.
The only problem that isolates Palin from the rest of the candidates AND, presumably, the average Middle America is the fact that she has tons of executive experience.
90 - handyguy
Yes, as Wonkette said today:
...the beloved statesman Sarah Palin, who has more experience than Gandhi, Churchill and Stalin put together!
Wonkette is a must read. It takes the air out of everyone's tires...
91 - HoosierArmyMom
Personally, I think the liberal press, had they done this slamming of a liberal candidate or a man, such as implying you can't be a parent and a VP at the same time, the Feminists would be screaming to the heights! A female conservative doesn't illicit their outrage? I personally think Sarah Palin is an intelligent, dynamic woman and an excellent choice. Be blind if you will, but the bias being shown is just an insult to the public the biased media is trying to push their agenda on.
92 - Jordan Richardson
I keep waiting for somebody to point out this "liberal press." From the sounds of things, they should be an all-pervasive force.
Cao's article cites "media" (a pretty broad term), Us Magazine, and The National Enquirer as examples. Ignoring the statement about "liberalism" being a "mental disease" at the end of the article for a moment, it seems to me that the continued allegations of "liberal press" nonsense seem grossly inflated.
Now I've posted an awful lot here today (and not an awful lot of good) and I'm still wondering about the "liberal press." It was repeated, continually, by the RNC speakers last night and it seems that the fans of the party have simply picked up the talking point and adopted it as gospel truth.
I honestly can't hold out much longer without somebody backing up their statement with something other than some jackass liberal blogger or some message board comments. Not only has Obama's "surrogates" been accused of discussing the Bristol thing when, in fact, it was a few bloggers and blog comments that did the deed, but now there's this liberal media crap floating down the river.
Enough is enough. Stop playing this idiotic dividing games, stop thinking you're better than someone else because you belong to another fucking arbitrary political party, stop thinking that the "other" has a mental disease, and stop lying to get your point across.
And with that, I think I'll take this time to announce my temporary retirement from the political commenting scene. The water's much nicer, less fickle, and more enjoyable in the Music and Video sections. Usually.
93 - Jordan Richardson
Stop playing this idiotic dividing games
Sorry that should obviously be "these idiotic dividing games." Christ, I sound like fucking Stéphane Dion over here.
94 - Heloise
More karma for the GOP. Rush wished chaos on us and instead McClone and Pa'in have created more choas than ever before...sarcasm fits pit bulls. I hate dogs!
Yes, yes, I happened to link Wiki in my article about her and when I went back to look at it was entirely different. Heck I didn't read it because as I like to say "she ain't nobody." I was right about Edwards, he's chump change, right about McCain not down and out when everyone counted him out, and right about Hill she SHOULD have been the VP choice. But that didn't happen.
Somewhere in a post I made a prediction, have to find it, that the VP or P ( on the GOP side) would be changed dramatically at the last minute. I thought it was the P, but it must have been the VP pick. Hell, both GOP picks suck. I know Bill turned the Oval office into the oral office, or orifice, LOL, but at least he and Gore were REAL statesmen, the best as history has borne out.
Oh well, maybe we will have that landslide after all......
Heloise,
Everybody is speaking heloisian....
95 - El Bicho
I am amazed at what babies the right is full of. You would think this is the first campaign you guys were ever a part of. Politics is a dirty business. "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."
"The National Enquirer printed a story alleging marital infidelity, and now the McCain campaign is threatening to sue."
Yeah, and they were right about Edwards, weren't they? Notice they are threatening to, but are not yet suing. Big difference
96 - Baritone
Just curious about all of you who are incensed over the media's reaction to Palin. Where was your indignation when the same thing was being done to Obama? That was okay, huh? I mean, well, hell, it could be true, right? Maybe he IS a muslim. Maybe he DID attend an islamic medrasa? Hell, he might be the anti-christ! Most of you at least half believed all that bullshit because you wanted to believe it.
Now you are outraged because the media had the gall to attempt to dig up dirt on Palin. Sure, most of it is bullshit as well. Somehow, I think she and her family will survive it all. If the McCain people did not prepare her for this type of onslaught, then shame on them. Gov. Palin made her own decision to accept the nomination. She wants us to believe that she is tough enough to stare down world leaders. She should be able to handle a bunch of low life journalists.
I don't claim to like this kind of yellow journalism. It sucks. But it's the reality. Anyone throwing their hat into the political ring must understand that the moment they do, the shit is likely to hit the fan, and they had better hold onto their butts.
And really, all things considered and given the kinds of things we have witnessed going on in our society over the last several years, the lies put forth by the media regarding Palin really aren't all that disgusting. Your outrage is, in the end, overblown. Get over it. It will all pass into the mist caused by the volumes of hot air that will be ascending over the next couple of months from the campaign dais.
B
97 - Rob Jones
The way the talking heads are all getting apoplectic and losing their normal reserve with which they usally hide their bias is pretty funny. Some of these guys/girls are having full scale meltdowns ranting about her inexperience.
Meanwhile they fail to notice they are fully prepared to give a pass on the experience question to someone running for Commander in Chief.
Nor do they bother mentioning he's trying to appeal to a middle class that his own less scripted remarks indicate he scorns as bittelry clinging to God and guns. Nor do mention that even his own VP correctly labeled him a lightweight not ready for the job.
If the media ever attended a single math class they'd know that claiming your experience campaigning for president as a qualifying attribute for the job is a circular argument. Again, they give the kid a pass.
On the bright side, the more they do it the more obvious it becomes. Voters are not nearly as stupid as Obama OR the media think. We need to get out in November and show them exactly that.
Palin was a pick that defied standard strategy, but she has more integrity than all her detractors combined. McCain made a great choice... I like this lady.
98 - Silas Kain
On the bright side, the more they do it the more obvious it becomes. Voters are not nearly as stupid as Obama OR the media think.
Not stupid? We've been stupid for so long that fellow citizens in a vegetative state have more ability to reason than the rest of us.
I got into a heated debate tonight with two members of a Laborers' Union. You see, I have a problem with the fact that most of the unions are blindly supporting Barack Obama. They are spitting in the face of one of their own. Todd Palin is a steel worker. He's a dues paying member. A portion of those dues are going to the Obama Campaign.
My point to these laborers was clear: it would be appropriate for the unions to remain neutral, period. But, like Obama spit in the face of the Clintons, the unions have discarded one of their own active members. Once again it comes down to ethics and accountability. The political parties know no ethics. Unions are no better and in many states civil employees are enjoying comfortable, prosperous lives while the rest of us struggle thanks to their respective union contracts.
Here in the Boston area, we have this monster called the "Big Dig". Check it out. What no one seems to want to discuss is that the unions in tandem with politicians, raped and pillaged the taxpayer pocketbook. When will it all stop? Wake up, John Q. Public, Judgment Day has arrived.
99 - Ruvy
Cao,
The Pope is not the Church, I think you've hijacked the thread onto a subject that wasn't even mentioned in the article.
Try to focus.
Cao, you haven't seen hijacking of an article, if you think my point of view is hijacking.
I know you're part of the Christian Bloggers network, and all that - that's fine with me. But like I told your upthread, I'm no ghetto kike afraid of Christians or their doctrines - even if doctrinally, they are the enemy of my people....
So focus on this Cao. Redemption is coming. A HUGE change is coming. Soon. And Christianity is NOT part of it.
Yet, ironically, since Sarah Palin is the closest you Americans are going to get to someone who actually senses G-d in her life - that is what you need.
You don't need the synthetic phonies of the 700 Club, and the televangelists who infest America, or that hate filled bastard Phelps, and his little "Kansas Church of Yahoos on the Prairie", You don't need a pathetic old fool like McCain. You don't need an empty suit like Obama (though at this point, with all of his Jew-hating buddies, he works for me). You don't need a Washington insider like Biden.
Too bad she isn't running for president, eh? I think so. The anti-G-d media is scared shitless that if McCain wins that's exactly what she might become.
Have a pleasant Sabbath.
Ruvy
100 - Dave Nalle
Baritone, the media has largely given Obama a pass on his various past questionable activities. The Ayers connection is so much more scandalous than anything in Palin's resume, yet it got minimal media play. It ought to entirely disqualify him from running for public office.
I've been watching the news coverage of both conventions. The contrast in how the media treatsw the two parties is so blatant that it's inconceivable that any thinking person could not see it.
Dave
101 - Zedd
Condor,
"Does that statement also apply to the "Great right wind conspiracy" we heard over and over from Hillary?"
I am looking forward to the day when half of our nation can smart up and understand that school yard jabs don't make a political discussion. Are you aware that you have said nothing. I realize that your statement seems clever and relevant but it is useless. It adds nothing to real political discourse. We don't figure out anything about bettering our nation from those types of "discussions".
Palins speech was full of these meaningless, almost bitter jabs. The Republicans have destroyed the country and dare to CONTINUE to waste time on meaningless attacks that have nothing to do with anything. They get all excited and rallied over nothingness. This nation needs intelligence and good strategic planning with good diplomacy. Being good at one liners and knowing how to shoot a gun is just not good enough.
102 - Zedd
Dave,
"Lord knows, people like Zedd have lost what little credibility they once had because of their behavior towards Palin."
Behavior? Palin is a politician. She is supposed to be scrutinized. You should be critical. What is with you Republicans. Why so emotional. Do you realize that she said nothing about making our country a better place. We need substance right now. We need our respect back right now. Knowing how to do a Rodney Dangerfield impression with jokes that were written by someone else does not make you qualified to lead the free world. Can Republicans really be that tiny minded? Do you think NATO was reassured by that speech last night?
Do you believe that we are doing God's work in Iraq?
103 - Condor
I am looking forward to the day when half of our nation can smart up and understand that school yard jabs don't make a political discussion. Are you aware that you have said nothing. I realize that your statement seems clever and relevant but it is useless. -- Zedd
Zedd, your very perceptive as you seem to have gotten the jist of the quote.
A. I didn't say it, but a political leader did
B. It was and remains a school yard jab, voiced by a political leader
C. It did seem clever and relevant to the political leader when it was first voiced and
D. It was useless when it was voiced by that political leader.
Hence, the purpose of my throwing it out there was accomplished... succintly and to the point. I guess you could liken it to a cleverly thought of protest sign. I'm glad you didn't take offense. And I am also glad that you were able to successfully diagram the essence and purpose of the remark.
VR//c
104 - Condor
Remember the movie Passion? Remember all the media shock and coverage of the film, remember all the coverage of Mel Gibson?
Did you like the film? Or, was it just okay, or over the top. Did you go see it? Would you have seen it if it hadn't been in the press for almost a full TWO YEARS.
What's that called? FREE ADVERTIZING. What percentage of the people would probably not have bothered to see it if their curiosity wasn't aroused?
Globally the movie did quite well. The film was seen by millions and millions of people, and Mel Gibson's objective was accomplished.
And the press... provided millions of dollars of FREE ADVERTIZING. I don't believe it was their intent to do so, but human nature, being curious just had to go and see it after all the coverage.
Perhaps Palin is receiving the same treatment, lots of press, her name is now part of the political landscape, and we'll be seeing her for the rest of her political life.
I'm surprised the media, if they are trying to control events, understand what the cause and effect of this free advertizing is going to do.
I wonder if the press feels obligate to denigrate political figures that they are not personally in tune with? Is Freedom of the press, really free if they are biased in reported.
105 - Dave Nalle
Behavior? Palin is a politician. She is supposed to be scrutinized. You should be critical. What is with you Republicans. Why so emotional.
We're not the ones running around screaming bloody murder about Palin. And I'm fine with scrutiny, but all I've seen you do is repeat lies that are easily disproven specifically by doing some of that scrutiny. You seem to reserve it only for those things you don't want to believe.
Do you realize that she said nothing about making our country a better place.
Was there some sort of platitude quota she didn't meet?
We need substance right now. We need our respect back right now.
Palin clearly has some self-respect. That's a good starting point.
Knowing how to do a Rodney Dangerfield impression with jokes that were written by someone else does not make you qualified to lead the free world.
Then most of the world's leaders are in serious trouble, not even having that much on the ball.
Can Republicans really be that tiny minded? Do you think NATO was reassured by that speech last night?
I'm pretty sure that speech had very little to do with NATO or their interests. I know damned well that they are more reassured by McCain than they are by Obama.
Do you believe that we are doing God's work in Iraq?
I don't believe in God, Zedd. Therefore I don't believe he has any work to do. However, if you substitute an abstract concept of 'doing good' for the concrete concept of God, then I agree that we are ultimately accomplishing something positive in Iraq, if perhaps by a roundabout means.
When you see Palin say we're doing "god's work" I imagine you're reading more into it than I am. I take it for what it is, the equivalent of saying we're doing good in Iraq. You probably overreach and leap to some weird evangelical conclusion which the context of the remark doesn't justify. That's why context is important.
Dave
106 - OIM
From Newsbusters:
"Reports vary that from 3,000 to 10,000 subscribers have canceled their subscriptions to the gossip mag scaring the pants off of the magazine industry.
To appropriate a saying, arrogance goeth before the fall. And "Us Weekly" just took a tumble."
Nuff said.
107 - Jordan Richardson
You probably overreach and leap to some weird evangelical conclusion which the context of the remark doesn't justify. That's why context is important.
Actually, chief, it's pretty clear that it's you who is ignoring the context of the remark.
108 - Lisa Solod Warren
Another take on media, so called, bias.
109 - Baritone
Palin is an evangelical. She sought the banning of books she found offensive in the Wasilla library. She rose up in church proclaiming that the war in Iraq is "god's work." She opposes abortion under virtually any circumstance.
Your lack of belief is much less of an issue for you - it seems no more than incidental - than Palin's belief is an issue for her. You simply can't relate to it. She is a full blown godster. You choose to dismiss her religious stance because it has no importance to you, and it otherwise serves your purpose to do so.
"THE DAVE" hath spoken as regards the media coverage. His observations are apparently the only ones that matter. YOU say Obama has been given a pass, I say not. I say McCain has been given a pass for every gaff, and is still handled with kid gloves - "oooh, don't be mean to Papa McCain> Don't you know? He's a war hero!"
Also, I'll get the message to the proper authorities regarding your declaration of Obama's diqualification as a candidate. They should be getting back to you directly, ready to take "affirmative action."
What do you believe Obama and Ayers did together? Do you imagine that Ayers schooled Obama in making bombs? Do you suppose that Ayers performed a "mind meld" with Obama brain washing him with violent left wing radical thoughts? Or do you just think they were butt fucking each other?
There is nothing in their association that even remotely suggests that anything passed between them other than pleasantries, and the business at hand for the boards on which they served. Oh, but of course, I'm forgetting the money. We musn't forget the money! That $200 donation to Obama's campaign no doubt turned him completely around.
Dave, you are more guilty of using half truths, and innuendo than anyone here at BC. You just assume that most readers look upon you as an authority on, well, just about every damn thing, and they will accept pretty much anything you say as gospel. I guess that qualifies you as a true politician. Congrats!
B
110 - handyguy
Dave's statement about the Ayers connection disqualifying Obama is indeed ridiculous - and not dissimilar from several of the anti-Palin attacks he decries as over the top.
He has also repeated slander about Obama's association with Acorn as evidence of...what? Corruption?
Acorn has 1,200 chapters in 110 cities, with hundreds of thousands of members. Their purpose is to empower low-income communities, primarily financially, through housing, wage and tax initiatives. According to the NY Times, "Acorn has emerged in recent years as the largest neighborhood-based antipoverty group in the country, using old-fashioned methods of door-knocking and noisy protests to push for local and national causes."
And yes, they also do voter registration. They claim to have registered 1.7 million voters since 2004.
In several cases, fraud and irregularities were proven or alleged. How many cases? How many votes? The chapters are run locally; Acorn is not monolithic. How many chapters were involved?
How many perfectly legitimate voters were regstered? Many times more than are said to be fraudulent.
Yet some commentators on the right have painted all of Acorn as some sort of criminal enterprise whose main purpose is false voter registration. This is a distortion of the truth and a big lie.
It's understandable that Acorn's anti-poverty activism and aggressive tactics would lead rightist commentators to brand them "leftist radicals." But it's quite another to ignore all the activities of this group, many of them selfless and admirable, and instead label the whole big organization as a fraudulent criminal enterprise.
And Obama's connection to all this? Well, as the whole world knows by now, he was a 'community organizer,' and Acorn's active Chicago chapter worked with his own groups on projects. And Acorn endorsed his presidential bid.
But the implication that this somehow makes Obama a radical or a sleaze is just so much hot air.
Wouldn't discussing the issues be a lot more enlightening than filling the world with more hateful politically motivated innuendo?
111 - Daniel Miller
Condor,
Re #104. Do you remember when books were "banned in Boston?" It was a sure fire way for those books to climb the best seller list. I think you have a point. Thus far, the attacks on Governor Palin seem to have solidified the folks who lean in her direction, and to have made the Democratic Party sweat.
Dan(Miller)
112 - bliffle
I think the media has bent over backwards to be kind to Palin, as well as McCain. No one has confronted Palin about her utter misstatement that she got more votes for mayor than Biden did for president, which raised a big cheer from the RNC crowd. Nor about McCain bragging about his bi-partisan achievements out of one side of his mouth and then switching to the other side to launch a scurrilous partisan attack against Obama. All without taking a breath. No one in the media commented on things like this. Whereas four years ago they hounded Kerry about "first I voted...".
Constant harassing of the press by republican propagandists has cowed the Media into submission so that they are afraid to say even one thing about the right that might be construed as disapproval.
We could call it The Crooked-talk Express.
113 - Jordan Richardson
Did anyone else think that the Republican replies of a "USA! USA! USA!" chant to the protestors was a little weird?
114 - Dan
This is the 1st time visiting here. I have been following this season as close as I care too. The spin on both sides of the aisle can get crazy. That being said I have tried to figure out what the Obama hype is all about for months. No offense for his supporters. I can not figure out what makes him so attractive as a candidate. He is a great speeker. I ask myself why is he the nominee? Why not Hilary? He has no qualifications to run this country, but how did he become the nominee? I haved heard some of his speaches and only heard change. Other than in the recent days have I started to hear any substance in his speaches. The fact of the matter is, and not one of you can deny this; the media has picked this candidate and trying to jam him down my throught. While some of you go off on tangents about God and tangents about Palin being so close to that button has no relvance on this election what so ever. The media and the majority of Hollywood are liberal and that is a fact we all know. No one is kidding anyone. If there where no media bias Obama would not be the nominee. This man was picked at least 3 years ago by the party elites as well as Hilary incase he gaffed. The same thing went on in the conservative party. The majority of american citizens know this. the democratic party outspends the republican party by 3 fold maybe 5 fold this election. These are facts. Some of you are getting so personal and attacking each other over the smallest details when it comes down to it none of these candidates give a grap about you. Relax and look at the big picture. Actually look at the familes of these 4 people and see who has done what for public service.
115 - Jordan Richardson
These are facts.
No, they aren't.
116 - Silas Kain
According to fringes on both sides, reasons why they shouldn't be elected:
Obama - he's black.
McCain - he's old.
Biden - he's from Delaware.
Palin - she's a woman.
According to middle of the roaders, reasons why they should not be elected:
Obama - he's inexperienced.
McCain - he's a war monger.
Biden - he's part of the Washington elite.
Palin - she's a woman.
MY reasons on why they SHOULD be elected:
Obama - he's an inspirational leader who may be able to unite this country once and for all.
McCain - through his various roles of service, he's earned it and could shake up the Washington establishment.
Biden - has a good grasp of foreign affairs.
Palin - she's a woman.
117 - Clavos
Did anyone else think that the Republican replies of a "USA! USA! USA!" chant to the protestors was a little weird?
I suppose they could have chanted "Fuck You! Fuck You! Fuck You!" but it probably would have been censored by the networks.
118 - Silas Kain
Personally, I liked the protesters there. I thought McCain handled it very well. We need more protesters storming these political conventions so I encourage those acts of civil disobedience. AT least McCain has the testicular fortitude to stand up and take it. Oh, but I forgot, the far left wants us to negate the value of anyone who served their country honorably.
119 - handyguy
Exactly, Clavos, there was a bloodthirsty ugliness to the chanting. If the protesters themselves were making any noise, it wasn't audible on TV. [The signs I could read said "You can't win an occupation" and "McCain unfair to vets," relatively mild-mannered as these things go.] And the chant interrupted McCain...he had to ask people to settle down.
120 - Jordan Richardson
You had my agreement until the last parting shot, Silas. But that's always the way, isn't it?
;)
121 - Silas Kain
Rupert Murdock owns CBS (and numerous other media outlets), go complain to him.
Please, regardless of your point of view, get the facts right. CBS is owned by VIACOM and is under the command of Sumner Redstone.
I know I'm guilty of this and I apologize but if we are to exercise reasonable, civil debate on blogs across the Internet we owe it to ourselves and to each other to get the facts right. Perhaps if we start the ball toward reasoned, civil discourse politicians will pick up on it and finally start serving us instead of themselves.
122 - Clavos
You're right, handy. The Republicans weren't as smart as the Democrats; they should have set up a cage for protesters a quarter mile away, as the Dems did.
How idiotic, letting them in the hall.
123 - handyguy
As if they let them in deliberately, ha.
No doubt the Dems would have been hostile to infiltrators as well. [I'm surprised there weren't some in an 80,000-seat stadium, but I'm not aware of any.] But the chanting may have been somewhat counterproductive last night.
124 - Leslie
The simple bottom line is...there isn't one person in the US that would even go to get their hair cut by someone with no experience or training...so why do they think it's ok to put the US in the hands of someone with no experience?
125 - Jordan Richardson
there isn't one person in the US that would even go to get their hair cut by someone with no experience or training
Hmm. Not to press the analogy, but how is a hairdresser/barber to get experience? Bear in mind I'm not suggesting that Obama should cut his teeth on the presidency, but rather questioning the strangeness of the analogy.