Media Bias and Sarah Palin - Comments Page 2

Author: CaoPublished: Sep 04, 2008 at 4:25 am 162 comments

"Objective" my foot.

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  • 26 - MARLOWE

    Sep 04, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    Dave, go listen to her warm welcoming speech to the AIP.. Then listen to the leader of the AIP frothing at the mouth against the U.S. government and that he "won't be buried" under the US flag...

    Her speech last night was (I'm sure) not written by her but it certainly was full of right wing "code". Community activists are now to be suspected...

    No doubt the RNC will begin running their OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST commercials that they quickly pulled a month or so ago when many people began asking what the HELL is going on... You know the ad, where we hear thousands "chanting" his name and the VO is asking, with OMINOUS music, "Is he really the One?" "Where is he leading us" (paraphrase on that last one).

    The church Palin belongs to nearly goes orgasmic at the thought of Armageddon... Is certain there literally will only be 144,000 left... No doubt Dave you'll be among them...

  • 27 - MARLOWE

    Sep 04, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Sorry Dave... She DOES attend it - or rather did until she became gov. Tell the whole truth Dave, not your slant on it..

  • 28 - Silas Kain

    Sep 04, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    ... but I think there's a hunger coming from younger voters for something more significant...

    I think there's a hunger from most voters across generational divides, Jordan. Granted, Barack Obama has captured the minds and hearts of younger American voters. But is he honestly satisfying that hunger? You see, I have NO faith in the way kids have been publicly educated in the last 25 years. And I won't be so quick to blame education administrators and school boards as in days past. That, to me, takes away ultimate accountability from the parents.

    This past weekend I was at a Labor Day cookout and was talking about a dirigible. Most there were in the age range of 23 - 35. At least 75% didn't even know what a dirigible was. So, I said a zeppelin. I don't even have to go in that direction, do I? One of the young men there asked the "rock group"? So, then I said "Goodyear Blimp". Amazing they ALL knew what that was. After all we see them flying over Foxboro Stadium when the Patriots play. Perhaps this is a simplistic analogy but come on! When I mentioned the Hindenburg, not one person at the gathering knew what I was referring to! And many of these young folks ARE college graduates! Now, to bring the point home I live outside Boston. We have Harvard, Northeastern, and other institutions of learning in our very midst. If this is what I got out of my own back yard, imagine what would have happened if the same gathering occurred in another part of the country. Can we trust the young American voter to make an informed decision in this election? I'm sorry, I can't.

  • 29 - Jordan Richardson

    Sep 04, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Research is cool.

    The "web article" I saw stated, clearly, that she left the church in 2002. That means she did attend when Ed Kalnins was there. She was not in attendance when Kalnins preached about Kerry/Bush, of course, but close brushes with controversy seem to be enough these days.

    The more current event being followed involves the Jews for Jesus situation, which occurred at a church that Palin is very much a current attendee of. But of course, that's all simply brushed aside because "Palin doesn't agree" with the Jews for Jesus guy. Why wasn't Obama afforded the same luxury? Why is his connection with Wright a campaign issue, while Sarah's connection with Kalnins, Kroon, and Brickner remains a non-issue and a "smear?"

    I'd love an explanation of this blatant double standard.

  • 30 - MARLOWE

    Sep 04, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    Not to mention that the 24 hrs preceding the announcement of her being the VP pick - someone spent 7 hours TWEAKING her Wikipedia page, until the EDITORS shut the person down. This from the editor himself. He said the mystery editor was removing every negative reference, fluffing all the good points etc.

    The woman is a HEARTBEAT away from having her finger on the launch button...

    God help us.

    Marlowe

  • 31 - Andy Marsh

    Sep 04, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    She didn't stand up and say, "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother..."

  • 32 - Jordan Richardson

    Sep 04, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Most there were in the age range of 23 - 35. At least 75% didn't even know what a dirigible was.

    Dude, I didn't know what that was until you told me it was a zeppelin.

    I think sometimes you're a little too judgmental of your experiences with the youth of the nation. While I admire your obvious passion for education, I think the condescension can sometimes come across poorly.

    I'm not sure we can trust any member of the voting population to make an "informed" decision because there is simply so much misinformation out there. I think the younger people have less of a tendency to simply go along with a particular political party, despite the appearance of that creepy 17-year-old GOP albino last night on Leno, and are less likely to simply accept positions without thought. They are more passionate, granted perhaps not more intelligent.

    But have faith. Try not to condemn a group of people based on their not understanding a term or their not getting a joke or witticism. It's just life, that's all.

    That said, some people really are fucking dense, aren't they?

  • 33 - Silas Kain

    Sep 04, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    No doubt the RNC will begin running their OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST commercials that they quickly pulled a month or so ago when many people began asking what the HELL is going on... You know the ad, where we hear thousands "chanting" his name and the VO is asking, with OMINOUS music, "Is he really the One?" "Where is he leading us" (paraphrase on that last one).

    And your point is? Barack Obama's meteoric rise seems to have a parallel to the life of Christ in many respects. And, according to legend, we all know what supposedly occurred. If Obama does achieve the Presidency it will be a great day for America with regard to the racial divide. However, I assure you, based upon the attention span of a typical American I wonder how long it will be before the masses rise up in revolt against him. Barack Obama is NOT the answer to all our prayers, America. Neither is John McCain. For once in our lives we need to stand up and take responsibility.

    With all due respect, how can we honestly demand accountability and ethics in government when we don't even hold ourselves accountable for individual decisions? Somebody better start chopping down trees in the Pacific Northwest because there are a few politicians who will be crucified before all is said and done.

  • 34 - Jordan Richardson

    Sep 04, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Somebody better start chopping down trees in the Pacific Northwest because there are a few politicians who will be crucified before all is said and done.

    Don't you touch those fucking trees, man!

  • 35 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 04, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    Out of curiosity, I just did a quick census of the number of articles published on BC about Sarah Palin since McCain announced her as his running mate.

    20. Got that? Twenty.

    And I'm absolutely certain we haven't seen the last of them.

    The number of articles published about Joe Biden following his nomination?

    Two.

    I'm not sure quite what these numbers say about media bias or even Blogcritics writer bias (one has to take account of the Nalle Factor, after all!), but it is certain that Palin has got a fair few people into quite a tizzy around here, for one reason or another.

    While her selection is historic, a point that should be noted is that the 20 articles about Palin doubtless pales in comparison to the number that have appeared on BC about Obama over the last 18 months.

    But I wonder if, had Blogcritics existed in 1984, the nomination of Geraldine Ferraro would have caused as much of a commotion?

  • 36 - Ruvy

    Sep 04, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    This is for CJ Reidman as well as for Cao.

    While I sympathize with Cao, the author of this article, it is true also that the same assholes who have been screwing you all over for the last 35 years, the oil and banking establishment, pretty much own much of the media - the same media that is attacking Sarah Palin..

    So impaling Gov. Palin (there's plenty of shit to spread about Joe Biden, and John McCain is no angel either) on the phallus of sexual scandal is designed to discredit a woman who honestly believes in G-d. The blunt truth of the matter is this. The oil and banking establishment don't give two shits about G-d or His doctrines. They give a shit about how much power they can exercise over you all - and how much they can rub their boots in your faces.

    Palin may be a Christian, and she may be a Pentecostal and doctrinally her church might seek the conversion of my people. So, doctrinally, her church is an enemy of my people. But your country is basically a Christian country, so why should I be upset? Christian doctrines don't scare me; I'm no ghetto kike who gets worried about the goyim or what they think. If someone wants to kill me, spiritually or otherwise, my philosophy is to kill them first- spiritually or otherwise. That's pulled straight out of the Talmud, kids.

    The key point is that Sarah Palin will not laugh at a person who says that G-d surrounds her like a warm blanket on a colds day. G-d, the Creator of the Universe, is real to Sarah; and the blunt fact of the matter is that you Americans need someone to whom G-d is real. I may not agree with her on all the details of Redemption, as I do not agree with Irene Wagner on all the details of Redemption. But someone like me can explain clearly to Governor Palin why dividing this nation to create an Arab terror state is wrong, is a sin against G-d - and Sarah Palin will understand me. A hypocritical prick like Bush or Carter would not.

    Your country needs a president who believes in G-d. For example, Hurricane Gustav weakened considerably and barely hit New Orleans. The appropriate thing for a G-d centered nation to do is to declare a day of thanksgiving that the city had been spared. It is that kind of recognition of the power of the Almighty that might spare you some from the painful judgment you all face in America.

    That is just one example of what a person who really believes in G-d would do. And that is what you Americans need desperately. Put bluntly, you need Sarah Palin - she doesn't need you.

  • 37 - Lisa Solod Warren

    Sep 04, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Mark, #15, smart guy that I have recently discovered he is, is so right.

    But people who get their "news" from supermarket tabloids and believe that is either "media," or reliable, well, that speaks for itself, and is very scary and very sad. And anyone who says that that stands for America is saying something extraordinarily troubling. Just because the Enquirer "broke" the Edwards story is no reason to give tabloids credence (the mainstream media knew the story but decided not to print it as it was no longer, they decided relevant, as Edwards was no longer a candidate; you can agree or disagree with that decision but it does not make the Enquirer a viable journalistic source). If it's true that supermarket tabloids are where America gets its information to make the decision on whom to vote for then we are all in terrible trouble. People accuse me of being an elitest but what does one call it when one accuses the majority of the country in believing in... fairy tales?

  • 38 - Jordan Richardson

    Sep 04, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Your country needs a president who believes in G-d.

    Which one(s)?

  • 39 - MARLOWE

    Sep 04, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Silas I think you misunderstood me there... I was saying that the RNC has been using religious right CODE to frighten the base into thinking Obama IS the Antichrist... Of course the ignorance of this same base with regard to the Bible is STUNNING (just ask the average church-goer where the scant 4 verses referring to the Antichrist are in the Bible or what they say or even to WHEN they are actually referring) and you'll get a LOT of blank stares - I know I've seen them when I ask people to clearly identify this topic. All they can do is PARROT what they've heard their pulpit thumper minister say...

    Of course the Republicans (like ANY good old politician) hopes DESPERATELY that their audience is terribly ignorant...

    Marlowe

  • 40 - troll

    Sep 04, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Ruvy - If someone wants to kill me, spiritually or otherwise, my philosophy is to kill them first- spiritually or otherwise. That's pulled straight out of the Talmud, kids.

    does The Book read 'wants' or something more like 'is taking action' - ?

  • 41 - Christopher Rose

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Ruvy, I see you're still as mad as ever... How about you put all that on hold until one of your "prophecies" comes to pass?

    ...aka for ever.

  • 42 - Lisa Solod Warren

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    Um, George Bush has claimed for eight years that God was talking directly to him and look where that got us.

  • 43 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    The appropriate thing for a G-d centered nation to do is to declare a day of thanksgiving that the city had been spared.

    Why would it be appropriate to do that and not to declare a day of cursing God due to the fact that Gustav did cause widespread destruction in rural Louisiana?

  • 44 - Ruvy

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Chris,

    Fortunately, neo-pagans like you don't vote in American elections. You seem to understand Americans as much as they seem to understand you - not a great deal, in other words. I won't comment on whether you understand Israelis. The fewer who understand us, the better.;o)

    As for prophecy, it is coming true - and at the appropriate time, you'll read about it....

  • 45 - Ruvy

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    Sorry, Chris; that should read European neo-pagans.

  • 46 - Jordan Richardson

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    As a progressive Christian, I would feel much safer with more voters like Christopher and less voters like Ruvy. But that's just me.

  • 47 - Ruvy

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Why would it be appropriate to do that and not to declare a day of cursing God

    The American government in its behavior, particularly its behavior in the Middle East, has been cursing G-d. Actions speak louder than the lying words of fools like George HW Bush, his idiot of a son, William Jefferson Clinton, or James Earl Carter III.

  • 48 - FredT

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    ABC New Pushing Anti Palin Plants as Independent Voters! www.riehlworldview.com

    The Detroit Free Press invited a panel of Michigan voters to weigh in on Gov. Sarah Palin's speech last night. Their reactions run the gamut, but the independents didn't seem to care for her very much.

    Ilene Beninson, 52, Berkley independent: "Her speech contained few statements about policy or the party platform. ... I am not convinced that Palin's experience as a mayor or governor in Alaska meet the qualifications to be vice president much less one stroke or heart attack away from being commander in chief."

    Oh, you mean the Code Pink independent from Michigan doing a lame hunger strike for Cindy Sheehan. Yeah, how "indpendent" can you get??? ha ha ha

    Ilene Beninson, Berkley, MI (will fast every Tuesday)


    The Media is Dead...

    Vote for McCain and The Milf!

  • 49 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Dave, go listen to her warm welcoming speech to the AIP.. Then listen to the leader of the AIP frothing at the mouth against the U.S. government and that he "won't be buried" under the US flag...

    Palin spoke to the AIP. Obama and McCain both spoke to AIPAC (similarity of names purely coincidental). Both are organizations with radical agendas. Obama and McCain aren't AIPAC members. Palin isn't and has never been an AIP member. Is Obama responsible for AIPAC's questionable activities? Is Palin responsible for the AIP's leader's beliefs?

    Her speech last night was (I'm sure) not written by her but it certainly was full of right wing "code". Community activists are now to be suspected...

    They sure are. The group Obama worked with is associated with ACORN which has had over a dozen staffers indicted for various forms of election fraud. It raises the question of what Obama was doing as a 'community activist' which is how many ACORN workers are described and for them consists mostly of registering ineligible and even dead or nonexistent voters and paying and coercing people into voting for democrat candidates, sometimes multiple times.

    No doubt the RNC will begin running their OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST commercials that they quickly pulled a month or so ago when many people began asking what the HELL is going on... You know the ad, where we hear thousands "chanting" his name and the VO is asking, with OMINOUS music, "Is he really the One?" "Where is he leading us" (paraphrase on that last one).

    I've seen those commercials. IMO they're not antichrist commercials, they're commercials accusing Obama of delusions of grandeur and a messianic complex.

    The church Palin belongs to nearly goes orgasmic at the thought of Armageddon... Is certain there literally will only be 144,000 left... No doubt Dave you'll be among them...

    They're taking atheists now? Cool. I thought only the Mormons were willing to pray me involuntarily into heaven. So, you make this claim. What actual EVIDENCE do you have to support it?

    Dave

  • 50 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    @ #47:

    Nice sidestepping, Ruvy.

    My question was theological, not geopolitical.

  • 51 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 04, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    Vote for McCain and The Milf!

    "McCain and the Milf"... sounds like a bad TV private eye show from the 80s.

  • 52 - FredT

    Sep 04, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    The ABC News story keeps getting getter...here is some back ground on some other so called Independent voters -

    George Lentz of Southfield is the same George Lentz so active in Unitarian Social Justice?

    Jan Wheelock is in a group that supports socialized medicine. Quite the independant she is.

    ABC not partisan? This is propaganda!!!!!

    Here is another show
    Barry and Joe -- "The Trials and Tribulations of Two More Democrat Losers"

  • 53 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 04, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Fred:

    Kindly demonstrate how a Cindy Sheehan supporter, a social justice campaigner and an advocate of a national healthcare plan are automatically Democrats.

  • 54 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 04, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Wait a minute...

    Clav, do you think a certain person might have found another library?

  • 55 - Clavos

    Sep 04, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    Entirely possible Doc. There's a distinctly familiar ring here.

  • 56 - Conservative Media Eats Own

    Sep 04, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Pardon me, but by what means is the media being judged liberal? Since the 7-7-7 law fell decades ago, it has been legal for one entity to own as many media outlets as possible. And guess who owns most of them -- conservatives and republicans. So shame on the conservatives and republicans for cannibalizing their own for a buck. And shame on them for being cowards, and blaming liberal. Rupert Murdock owns CBS (and numerous other media outlets), go complain to him.

  • 57 - Arch Conservative

    Sep 04, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    As amusing as last night's speeches were, as much as I enjoyed all of the Obama bashing because he's a fraud and he deserves it........tonight McCain must get away from that and discuss in great detail what his plans are for the major issues such as Iraq, healthcare, terrorism, the economy, the energy problem.

    Obama has given us nothing but meaningless platitudes and empty promises of spendign that will solve all of our problems. The RNC has given us nothing but a rehasing of McCain's war hero story and a few yucks (and they were very good yucks) at St. Barry of Chicago's expense.

    Tonight however will be the last chance the RNC has to leave an impression on the American people and while Palin energized the bejeebus out of the base last night, McCain must make a play for the moderates and independents tonight if he wants to win it.

    McCain, as is probably his desire, must not just focus on Iraq and terrorism, but rather outline very specific energy ideas and somehow manage to discuss the economy as if he actually understood it and knew what the best course of action is.

    As someone who'd rather catch my catch my johnson in my zipper every day for the next year than see the chicago Charlatan weasel his way into the oval office, this is my humble advice to John McCain.

    Don't be yourself you ignorant, arrogant, spiteful, vindictive old prick.

  • 58 - Arch Conservative

    Sep 04, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    "Vote for McCain and The Milf!"

    I imagine Sarah Palin would respnd to that by saying.

    "milf? milf? I work for a living. That's gilf to you."

  • 59 - Arch Conservative

    Sep 04, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    "Actions speak louder than the lying words of fools like George HW Bush, his idiot of a son, William Jefferson Clinton, or James Earl Carter III."


    You left out the gipper Ruvy. Was that on purpose?

  • 60 - troll

    Sep 04, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    ...we must investigate the Mindanao connection

  • 61 - Silas Kain

    Sep 04, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Maybe I do come across as condescending. I guess I'm just disappointed that the youth market isn't really engaged in the national debate. Instead they're wrapped up in the rock star. And to me, that is very dangerous due to our fickle nature.

    As for prophecy, it is coming true - and at the appropriate time, you'll read about it....

    If there IS a Second Coming I hope I live to see it. Somehow I can't picture Jesus being very amused with the way things have fallen. According to the prophecies of St. Malachy there remains one Pope and then the end of the Church as we know it. I know it may be strange to hear me remark on prophecy but I find interesting that it's not the "end of the world" it's the end of the Church. But I'll save the Roman Church debate for another day.

  • 62 - Sarah Palin

    Sep 04, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    No, the baby is mine, I admit it now!

  • 63 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 04, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    But which one, Governor?

  • 64 - Cao

    Sep 04, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Oh for heaven's sake. You can't compare those two covers and NOT see the bias unless you think it's perfectly okay to demonize Palin and let Obama walk for his connection to Rezko, his 30-year relationship with Ayers, a convicted terrorist, the support he's received from Farrakhan, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc. =

    But of course I'm assuming people are rational, and liberals aren't.

    Maybe you should take a look at Evan Sayet's talk on the modern liberal...and why it is they end up on the wrong side of every issue.

  • 65 - Jordan Richardson

    Sep 04, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Cao, look around you. Obama hasn't "walked" on anything.

    But of course I'm assuming people are rational, and liberals aren't.

    Gosh, I wonder why American politics are so damn divisive. I can't quite put my finger on it, buuuuut...

    And Evan Sayet, the "comedian." His "talk?" I'll pass, I think I've got to iron my shoelaces.

  • 66 - Cao

    Sep 04, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    Comment #2, you haven't proven anything other than lib 'members of the public' like to fight smears with manufactured smears.

    Just how exactly is Palin a 'reckless choice' when she represents middle American values and has reinvigorated the conservative base?

    And "manufactured" bias is exactly what it is; manufactured. All you have to do is look at those two covers side-by-side.

  • 67 - Jordan Richardson

    Sep 04, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    This question has been eating away at me for quite some time:

    Who says that Sarah Palin represents "middle America?"

  • 68 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 04, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    Cao, be realistic. It's Us Magazine, not the fucking Atlantic Monthly. They could care less what the party affiliations of Obama or Palin are. All they're interested in is selling their wretched magazine.

    Stories about Tony Rezko (who?) or William Ayers (whoer?) are not going to be of interest to their readers. Juicy family stuff sure as hell is.

    Us ran stories that would sell. Simple as that. Political bias my arse.

  • 69 - Citizen Wells

    Sep 04, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    Great article as usual, Cao.
    Obama camp strategy: Lies, diversions, attacks.

  • 70 - Citizen Wells

    Sep 04, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    Sarah Palin is perfect.
    Why?
    Look at the level of the attacks against her and her family.

  • 71 - Jordan Richardson

    Sep 04, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    The Obama camp has been attacking her policies. Should they not be doing that?

  • 72 - Mary

    Sep 04, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    Great article as usual, Cao.
    Obama camp strategy: Lies, diversions, attacks. Truth matters not to the MSM BUT Sarah Palin is perfect. McCain / Palin is a wondeful combination for our top office. God is LOVE not the hatemired reptoire of the bo cult! keep the good stuff running, Cao. I am with you all the way.

  • 73 - Arch Conservative

    Sep 04, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    "Who says that Sarah Palin represents "middle America?"

    Everyone in middle America.

  • 74 - Jordan Richardson

    Sep 04, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    Number one:

    God is LOVE not the hatemired reptoire of the bo cult! keep the good stuff running, Cao. I am with you all the way.

    Mary, you seem like a nice person. But what do you consider this from your running mate, Cao:

    I'm assuming people are rational, and liberals aren't.

    or

    why it is they (liberals) end up on the wrong side of every issue

    Or perhaps you'd like me to transcribe some of Rudy's comments from the convention last night or perhaps some of Sarah Palin's snide and sarcastic remarks.

    The "ob camp" doesn't have a monopoly on "hatemired" bullshit. In fact, I'd like to see an example of some of this stuff. Show me something that has come out of the Obama camp that reeks of "hate."

    Arch,

    Everyone in middle America.

    Are you prepared to stand by this statement?

  • 75 - Jet

    Sep 04, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    Jordan... please... Arch admit he's wrong? ...please

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