“‘Diversity can be good in moderation – if what is being brought in is desirable. Most Americans don’t mind a little ethnic food, some Asian math whizzes, or a few Mariachi dancers – as long a these trends do not overwhelm the dominant culture.’" Marcus Epstein.
On the surface there is no reason to even feature this as a news story for Blogcritics. Marcus Epstein, the 25 year old executive director The American Cause, an organization founded by former Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo and former anti-Bush Presidential candidate Pat Buchanan, will soon be sentenced for hate crimes.
The only reason the tawdry tale, which will end with Epstein facing up to 180 days in jail and a $1000 fine, (along with a $1000 donation to the United Negro College Fund) is because of a Blogcritics article I did several years ago. At the time, I mentioned that Epstein was an associate of Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, which he denied, but I subsequently proved true. I also highlighted Epstein’s column for the racist and anti-Hispanic Vdare.
That November, 2007 Blogcritics article was attacked by various members of the racist Council of Conservative Citizens. Naturally I was accused of fabricating the article, sources, yada yada yada. It is the usual CofCC slash and burn technique I am now quite familiar with. I was traveling at the time, and spent a long day dealing with Epstein and going back and forth with the very understanding editors here at Blogcritics from my Blackberry.
Defamation lawsuits were threatened by Epstein. He demanded I retract what I wrote not only here at Blogcritics but also on my blog, The Pink Flamingo. I refused to do either, and went on to explain my reasons on The Pink Flamingo. Eric Olsen stood by every word I wrote.
Perhaps this is the time to mention that the political editors here at BC, along with publisher Eric Olsen, were great. Dave Nalle took my side of the argument several times, facing down the usual CofCC harassment. I was pleased that Dave, after looking into my sources, agreed with me that we were dealing with some very evil people.
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— go to most recent comments1 - roger nowosielski
Compelling story and reporting, SJ. Great links, too.
2 - Baronius
"chastised the GOP for allowing Hispanics into the party"
I can't find any reference to that.
3 - Dave Nalle
Bar, there's a link there to a NYT article about the Buchannan press conference.
Dave
4 - Baronius
I just reread the article (actually an editorial), and there's no mention of it. I also skimmed Epstein's report on The American Cause website.
I wouldn't have said that I can't find references without checking first.
5 - SJ Reidhead
Baronius;
It comes from the NY Times article.
SJR
6 - Clavos
I read the NYT piece too. Baronius is right, there is no reference in it to "chastised the GOP for allowing Hispanics into the party."
7 - zingzing
well, just google "buchanan hispanics" to see what he thinks. scary, scary man.
8 - roger nowosielski
this is one thing I found.
9 - Baronius
Roger, that's calm compared to some of the stuff I've heard from him. But SJ made a specific claim that I haven't seen supported.
10 - Clavos
Roger, I have long argued on these threads that Latinos in general DO assimilate, and in much the same manner as previous groups: the first generation learns only a little English, but the second and subsequent generations become progressively more "American," even to the point of no longer being able to speak the mother tongue within a generation or two. I know dozens of Miami-born Latino youngsters who speak perfect English and no Spanish; I myself don't know any Swedish, yet my grandfather was Swedish-born.
But, Buchanan is right to this extent: many, if not most, of the Mexican illegals (not necessarily other nationalities) do not come here to become Americans; they come only for the better jobs and a chance to accumulate (and send home) some money -- a chance they don't have at home. Many of them return home after a relatively short stay here. In fact, with the recession on, the kinds of jobs they normally work are fast disappearing, and more than a million of them already have gone back to Mexico, according to border and customs officials.
11 - roger nowosielski
No quarrel with the second paragraph, Clavos. And the pattern you describe is not in accord with the spirit of immigration - whether they be Mexicans or Indians or whatever. But we have long abandoned the quota system, they've all been coming to America just for the spoils - and (some) Mexicans in particular still hold the grudge. It's kind of too late to do anything about it, just like in the last stages of the Roman Empire. So I do understand Buchanan's argument.
12 - roger nowosielski
Well, Baronius, Buchanan is a super-patriot. He's even for tariffs.
13 - Dan
" At the time, I mentioned that Epstein was an associate of Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, which he denied, but I subsequently proved true."---SJ
What possible reason would Epstein have to deny an association with Jared Taylor? Taylor is a thouroughly scrupulous scholar of race realism, who's logical, scientific arguments are feared throughout the anti-white spectrum.
14 - roger nowosielski
That is debatable, Dan.
Consider the following quote from the Wiki:
"Taylor has questioned the capacity of blacks to live successfully in a civilized society. In an article on the chaos in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, Taylor wrote "when blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western Civilizationâ€"any kind of civilizationâ€"disappears. And in a crisis, civilization disappears overnight." [5]"
It may be true that most of those affected by Katrina have been African-Americans. But wouldn't you say that any people are capable of falling apart or leave behind the thin veneer we call "civilization." At the very least, the cited comment raises questions.
Think of The Lord of the Flies, where upper-class, Eton-educated boys become savages.
"Scientific arguments"? Are we going to re-institute the science of eugenics and cranial measurement?
15 - Clavos
And the pattern you describe is not in accord with the spirit of immigration...
Of course it isn't, Roger, they aren't immigrating.
Which is why I also advocate a formal Guest Worker program; such a scheme, properly structured, would be to the benefit of all parties, the Mexican government, the US government and the the illegals.
16 - Clavos
But wouldn't you say that any people are capable of falling apart or leave behind the thin veneer we call "civilization."
Absolutely. And all manner of people have in the past and will again, the next time there is a disaster of that magnitude anywhere in the world.
17 - Dan
Lord of the flies? Comparing fiction to history?
18 - roger nowosielski
Do you find it unbelievable?
19 - Dan
I find it to be fiction Roger. Believable or not, it didn't happen.
20 - Ruvy
I'm just curious. Epstein is usually a Jewish name, and KKK and neo-Nazi types don't generally like us folks of the Mosaic persuasion.
Is Marcus one of the Tribe? Or is he one of the Sheets? Or have the Sheets decided that some folks from the Tribe are OK?
21 - Dan
""Scientific arguments"? Are we going to re-institute the science of eugenics and cranial measurement?"---Roger
Probably not. But arguments that aren't debated, but instead snuffed out through hysterical demonization never really go away.
22 - roger nowosielski
Yes, Dan, but you brought up the matter of science and "scientific arguments."
23 - Dan
Yes I did Roger. Why do you mention this?
24 - Cindy
#11
Really Roger, you have sympathy for Buchanon's argument? Even after you heard the argument for the other side, you still felt that way? I'm surprised.
25 - SJ Reidhead
One of the great canards of Marcus Epstein is the Jared Taylor excuse. Taylor is a card-carrying racist. Association with him and his American Renaissance is still not a good thing, even among certain far right circles. It is rather strange. They don't mind the Vdare - Brimelow association, but still try to distance themselves from American Renaissance. I think there is this futile attempt to appear "mainstream". This year Taylor will be the special speaker at the joint CofCC/Stormfront National Conference. So far Brimelow has managed to avoid the branding of "white supremacist", which is fascinating considering his identical twin brother, John was once the head of the National Socialist Party. John B. and Taylor associate with one another.
There are those who think Brimelow may be grooming Epstein to take over his Vdare empire.
For Ruvy # 20: The way Epstein wriggles around all the racism charges is the fact that he is Jewish and part Korean. Because of his "racial" mix, he "can't possibly be a racist!"
The real problem is the fact that there is this hidden stream of racism and "hate" in certain anti-immigration and far right circles. These are NOT Republican, but third party, with a dash of Ron Paul Bots, a few Libertarians, Constitution Party, this sort of thing. There is this - for want of a better word - conspiracy - to make these people appear to be main-stream Republicans. They have a huge presence on the web, more so than in real life. FOX feeds off them.
My big complaint is if people like Hannity, Beck, Ingraham, Malkin, O'Reilly are "Independent" and are NOT Republican, then they need to stop defaming the GOP and making problems for us. That's where the real battle is. As far as I am concerned they are as damaging to the GOP as is the far left press and their fawning over Obama.
SJR