Last Tango in Texas: Obama Dances Across History - Page 3

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This is easily the longest primary season since 1968 according to most observers. Some of the long ones were John Kennedy versus Lyndon Johnson, Reagan versus Ford, Edward Kennedy versus Carter and Clinton-Ross Perot-George H Bush battle. This year’s intensity beats all of them.

Therefore, when Hillary cites 1968 as example, that is apropos, for the length of that entire primary — number one. But two, it was not apropos for the very fact that the beloved Bobby got into the race at the 11th hour after much hestitation. He entered the race around the ides of March 1968 and was dead by June 1968!

In reality, that was one of the shortest campaigns in history juxtaposed with this (2008) damn longest campaign in history. So, if this bespeaks an omen it might well be that Barack’s reign will be a long one, rather than a truncated one. And if you recall the dynamics that led to the fall of Michigan and Florida primary chaos — states jockeying for first position, to become the one to put either Obama or Clinton over the top, pledged-delegate wise. Unbelievable!

That was the story. But the happy ending belongs to states that did not front the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary. Folks, those final four states are laughing all the way to the political bank. While making history is not as easy as making movies — it is just as bankable.

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  • 1 - Dan Miller

    Jun 04, 2008 at 10:51 am

    Heloise,

    You say,

    "More people have voted for Hillary and Barack than any other Democratic candidate in the history of primaries. Their estimated combined popular vote total: 35,246,910! If you include Puerto Rico’s count of 384,578 = 35,631,488. . .
    I am confident that addition of the numbers yields the sums posted in the article, but I must wonder whether you should add or subtract. How many who voted for Senator Clinton did so because they could not stand Senator Obama, and how many who voted for Senator Obama did so because they could not stand Senator Clinton? My guess is that there are many in both categories, although I have absolutely no idea how many. If that is the case, the "dream ticket" may actually be a "nightmare ticket."

    Dan

  • 2 - Mike

    Jun 04, 2008 at 10:51 am

    Check the RCP site again. Hillary did NOT win the popular vote. The only way you can say she won is if you don't include the popular vote estimate from those caucus sites or decide to give her all her votes from Michigan while giving Obama none from that state.

  • 3 - Clavos

    Jun 04, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Why would you count the PR vote?

    Puerto Ricans cannot and will not vote in the general.

    Their numbers are meaningless.

  • 4 - Andy Marsh

    Jun 04, 2008 at 11:34 am

    I thought all US territories voted in general elections???!! I don't believe they have electoral college representation, but they do get to vote...of course, I could be wrong...it's happened before...

  • 5 - Clavos

    Jun 04, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Sorry for all the repeats, folks!!

    Andy,

    Don't know if this is why, but PR is not a territory; it's a semi-independent Commonwealth. Puerto Ricans not only don't have the vote themselves, they don't have voting reps in DC.

    On the other hand, they don't pay federal income tax, either.

  • 6 - Dr Dreadful

    Jun 04, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Clav, I know MT is being a bitch right now, but click the Publish button once and once only. It should post OK.

  • 7 - Clavos

    Jun 04, 2008 at 11:57 am

    My frustrated "Dammit" post was precisely because I know to click the "Publish" button only once and did so.

    I have no idea why one click resulted in multiple copies.

  • 8 - Ruvy

    Jun 04, 2008 at 11:58 am

    This just in a bit ago on Ynetnews. Bush congratulates Obama on Democratic nomination.

    US President George W. Bush offered his congratulations to Sen. Barack Obama for securing the Democratic presidential nomination, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said on Wednesday.

    "President Bush congratulates Sen. Obama for clinching the Democratic party's 2008 nomination for president," Perino told reporters.
    (Reuters)

  • 9 - Andy Marsh

    Jun 04, 2008 at 11:59 am

    I never have understood that commonwealth thing. I live in the commonwealth of Virginia. I don't know what the hell that means, but at least I get to vote! Wouldn't mind the not paying income taxes thing though...

  • 10 - Andy Marsh

    Jun 04, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    Why'd they have a primary then? Isn't that like Canada having a primary?

  • 11 - Clavos

    Jun 04, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Andy,

    Here's a brief description of the structure and function of the Puerto Rican government and its status within the larger framework of its relationship to the US. The description is from Wikipedia.

    Puerto Rico has a republican form of government,[21] subject to U.S. jurisdiction and sovereignty.[2] Its current powers are all delegated by the United States Congress and lack full protection under the United States Constitution. Puerto Rico's head of state is the President of the United States. The government of Puerto Rico, based on the formal republican system, is composed of three branches: Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. The Executive branch is headed by the Governor, currently Mr. Anibal Acevedo Vila. The Legislative branch consists of a bicameral Legislative Assembly made up of a Senate upper chamber and a House of Representatives lower chamber. The Senate is headed by the President of the Senate, while the House of Representatives is headed by the Speaker of the House. The Judicial branch is headed by the Chief Justice of the Puerto Rico Supreme Court. The legal system is a mix of the civil law and the common law systems. The governor and legislators are elected by popular vote every four years. Members of the Judicial branch are appointed by the governor with the "advice and consent" of the Senate.

    Puerto Rico has limited representation in the U.S. Congress in the form of a nonvoting delegate, formally called a Resident Commissioner (currently Luis Fortuño). The current Congress has returned the Commissioner's power to vote in the Committee of the Whole, but not on matters where the vote would represent a decisive participation.[22] Puerto Rican elections are governed by the Federal Election Commission;[23][24] While residing in Puerto Rico, Puerto Ricans cannot vote in U.S. presidential elections, but they can vote in primaries. Puerto Ricans who become residents of a U.S. state can vote in presidential elections.


    Usually, they don't hold a primary; they just have non-binding (obviously) caucuses. I don't know why they decided to hold a primary this time.

  • 12 - Cindy D

    Jun 04, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    @#8

    wooohooo!!

  • 13 - Cindy D

    Jun 04, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    @#1

    Dan,

    I supported Obama and I didn't care for Hillary as president. I don't find the idea of Hillary as objectionable as Vice President. I am not sure how many people would feel this way. It may or may not be relevant.

  • 14 - bliffle

    Jun 04, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    I think Obama has demonstrated considerable strategic skill dealing with the adversities he's confronted in the primaries, from all this religious and race commotion right through dealing with the formidable and (potentially) destructive Clinton campaign. It appears that he is dealing very adroitly with the Hillary situation even as he pulls into the leadeship position in his party.

    I hope that if he is elected president that those same skills are applied equally well to handling the economic and foreign affairs problem we in the USA always have to face. I think his performance so far is very encouraging.

    IMO we would have been better off the last 8 years if Carl Rove had applied his considerable savvy to solving our economic and policy problems, rather than the trivial goal of merely getting GWB elected. We'd have been better off if Rove had been boss rather than just serving a dimwit effectively in achieving mean political goals.

  • 15 - Cindy D

    Jun 04, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    Here is an interesting article from 2006:

    Clinton-Obama Ticket Stirs Fear in GOP

    "...some Republican advisers to the White House and leading 2008 hopefuls Sen. John McCain and Rudy Giuliani see the ticket as an easy winner built on the enthusiasm it would generate in Democratic circles.

    Their theory is that Clinton would stand a good chance to pick up the states that Sen. John Kerry won in 2004. While not enough to win the election on her own, the addition of Obama would help push closely divided states like Ohio over into the Democratic column, thereby giving the Clinton-Obama ticket the White House."

  • 16 - Cindy D

    Jun 04, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    Personally, I would like to see an Obama/Gore ticket. I think that would be unbeatable.

  • 17 - Dave Nalle

    Jun 05, 2008 at 4:12 am

    Gore would never take second spot to a newb like Obama. Obama needs to hook up with a solid, mediocre but respected figure who won't overshadow him. Joe Biden or Bill Richardson would be the best choices. I'd push for Richardson, personally. He might help break Obama out of his marxist rut.

    Dave

  • 18 - Cindy D

    Jun 05, 2008 at 9:12 am

    Yeah, I agree about Gore. When a supporter asked Obama, Obama said something about Vice President being a step-down for Gore. It would have had to have been Gore/Obama. Now that would have been a great democratic ticket.

  • 19 - Clavos

    Jun 05, 2008 at 10:34 am

    In any case, Gore has clearly and unequivocally indicated that he's no longer interested in politics, now that he's been anointed the Pope of the Church of Global Warming.

  • 20 - MAOZ

    Jun 05, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Cindy @#13 -- If, like me, you were old enough to remember Vice President Lyndon Johnson -- or even if you were just old enough to remember Vice President Gerald Ford -- you would appreciate the importance of the choice of vice-presidential candidate.

  • 21 - Cindy D

    Jun 05, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    MAOZ,

    I have to say thanks. I wasn't paying enough attention to VP. I guess that preliminarily out of some of the possible choices I like Bill Richardson--a lot.

    What really scares me is that Dave @#17 likes Richardson.

    Dave? what am I missing?

  • 22 - Dan Miller

    Jun 06, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Clav,

    I think it is the Church of Global Smarming.

    Dan

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