What would Jesus do if he could vote in the US elections? He would vote for Obama
If Jesus Christ could vote in the upcoming elections in the United States, I'm sure he would vote for Barack Obama. And not only because of the same skin color. …
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76 - moon
Lisa,
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Nowhere have I said that everything in Palestine is the fault of the Jews.
If you think I did, post the quote.
In fact, I have made it very clear more than once on this site and others that the problem is the fault of the Brits, who bailed out on the Palestine Mandate (supposedly they couldn't do their job there and fight Rommel in the deserts of Egypt and Libya), and that as a result should have to carve out a homeland for the Jews in West Midlands.
However, since the Brits bailed, the Jews have carried out a policy of genocide in Palestine--apparently deciding to do to someone else what was did to them.
So far as I know we Native Americans who were subject in much greater numbers (20 million) than your people to a policy of genocide have not committed genocide against anyone.
You may wish to counter that we haven't had a chance to do that--but it remains to be seen whether given the chance we would do so.
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77 - Clavos
Great 'toon, Doc!
78 - Dr Dreadful
I consider this Palin cartoon to be a creditable runner-up.
79 - Clavos
I disagree, Doc, and not because it's about Palin; it's just not as funny, BUT...the URL written small under the 'toon is hilarious!!
80 - Lisa Solod Warren
Well, Moon, that sure was enlightening.
You really didn't read a thing I said, did you? I'm just tired of the anti-Semitism I got from you and from Dee.... you seem to think I have no right to protest against it without being schoolmarmish....
And perhaps I did not make myself clear: All Jews are not responsible for everything that happens to the Palestinians. Many American Jews would love a peace settlement, as would many Israelis... just like many citizens of the U.S. don't support the policies of our government, even though you love to lump us all together as one big homgenous lump of Gringos. And you love to tell us all our candidates are the same and voting doesn't matter. When that is simply your own opinion, as if we care about that or your own personal history with which you regale us at every opportunity (for whom you voted and when and why and on what accupunture table you made such and such decision)...
BTW, the Holocaust is not the only incident where people tried to wipe the Jews from the face of the earth.... But then I suspect you knew that when you were counting your numbers.
81 - moon
Lisa,
This is going to have to be our final exchange of comments, as you are clearly not living in the same reality plane that I am.
I am not anti-semitic, as Arabs are semitic people as well.
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82 - Ruvy
Marthe,
Nowhere have I said that everything in Palestine is the fault of the Jews.
That makes you a hell of a lot more intelligent than some of the individuals who post on Desicritics. I won't name names. That would be lashón hará, the lessening of one's honor behind their backs, and is one of the worse sins I could commit as a Jew.
In fact, I have made it very clear more than once on this site and others that the problem is the fault of the Brits, who bailed out on the Palestine Mandate (supposedly they couldn't do their job there and fight Rommel in the deserts of Egypt and Libya), and that as a result should have to carve out a homeland for the Jews in [the] West Midlands.
We still track on this, Marthe. The failure of the Palestine Mandate was very much the fault of a perfidious pack of liars from their shitty island of Albion. But please do not insult me by thinking I would want to live with Brits anywhere on their shitty island. As savage as they can be sometimes, at least the Arabs are honest enemies and and make clear they want us all dead - so unlike Brits who stabbed us in the back while pretending to be friends.
However, since the Brits bailed, the Jews have carried out a policy of genocide in Palestine--apparently deciding to do to someone else what was did to them.
You need an elementary course in bookkeeping, Marthe. Genocide reduces populations. The Armenians lost 1.5 million; the Cambodians lost 4 million; Over the hundreds of years that the Romans systematically emptied the Land of Israel of Jews (they didn't have Zyklon B or gas chambers to speed up the work and were too stupid to invent them either), they killed at least one million people if not more. The Crusaders killed hundreds of thousands of Jews (not to mention hundreds of thousands of Christian Arabs) to redeem the "murder" of their god-on-a-stick; the Nazis, who did have Zykoln B and gas chambers, killed six million of my people something they did it in Europe at the instance of that Gazan pig, Amin el-Husseini, instead of followng their original plan of shipping Jews all here; I leave to you to enumerate the millions of Native Americans lost to the genocide they suffered over four centuries of European settlement, enslavement, theft and rape. This is something you know better than I ever could.
However, whatever sins you wish to accuse us of here, we have not committed genocide or any other kind of "cide". Our gutless leaders managed, in spite of their gutlessness, to create a nation, and in addition, build universities for people that they stupidly said were under foreign occupation. The population of Arabs native to this part of the world has increased immensely - only reduced by the military forces of Jordan and Lebanon by tens of thousands. And these Arabs, knowing when to shut the hell up, have been silent about the massive massacres of their own people by their own "brothers".
You are intelligent enough to know this, yourself. You do not need me to tell you. Further, if you wish to side with the aboriginal people of a land, we Jews are the closest you will get to the original inhabitants of the Land of Israel. You should be on my side in all this, even if you make money in the Arab world. If you don't like the Israeli government, that's okay. Just take a number and get on the line to the left. You'll be taken care of in your turn. You are in good company. They are liars and thieves and unfortunately, have carried forth all the worse elements of Polish Jewish thievery, swindling and lying, all the elements of Jewish culture that sicken me, to this country. For all of that, there have been people who have been decent to us here, far more decent than we deserve - so I must take care not to be too condemnatory of my brethren in this country.
BUT GENOCIDE OF ARABS CANNOT BE LAID AT THE HANDS OF THE ISRAELI PEOPLE OR GOVERNMENT. A MASSACRE OR TWO OF TENS OF PEOPLE OVER FIFTY YEARS OR SO IS NOT GENOCIDE! THE GENOCIDE THAT CAN BE LAID AT THE HANDS OF THE ZIONISTS ARE BASED ON THE TRANSFER AGREEMENT THEY MADE WITH THE NAZIS IN 1933. MILLIONS OF JEWISH LIVES WERE LOST BECAUSE OF THE POLICY OF THE LABOR ZIONISTS IN THE 1930'S.
Do yourself a favor and check the population of the Arabs who claim descent from this country. Over 60 years it has increased - at least doubling or tripling. And stop lying to yourself because you hate American whites for murdering off your people.
And realize, at long last, who your friends are on this list.
83 - moon
Ruvy,
As usual, although you and I disagree on some things, our exchanges have typically been evidence that a civilized debate can take place on this site--even about the volatile issue of Palestinians/Israelis. [Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor]
We may very well continue to disagree on the genocide of Palestinians issue--as you SHOULD know it is not just a question of where I make money (I have also been offered good-paying gigs in Israel) but also the connection between Arab culture and Latin America, my home.
Please remember that Spanish syntax and grammar comes from Arabic--hence the way its speakers see the world around them (the Sapir Whorf Hypothesis again), and there are at least 10,000 Arabic words in Spanish. The familial customs here come from the Arabs, and even the tacos al pastor (with the substitution of pork for lamb).
I know that there were Crypto-Jews in New Spain, as well. A guy who was a friend of mine in my New Mexico days who was the NM State Historian for several years, Stanley Hordes, is a specialist in the topic and it's a fascinating one. Nevertheless, the Arab culture prevailed here--just as it had in Spain during the 800 years of Arab rule there.
My primary function on the Meyers Briggs scale is Feeling, not Thinking--so my basic decisions are made with that function--hence my cultural identity is a mix of Native American and Mexican, with the Mexican aspect being very afine to Arab culture.
Just the way it is. Or that I am.
84 - Ruvy
Marthe,
The G-d I worship requires honesty above all things - honesty to Him and honesty to myself and others. The honesty to others need not be brutal honesty, but the honesty with myself must be....
This article was pubished originally in 1985 about the Holocaust. While there is some condemnation placed on Germans, the main blame for its occurrence is put on Jews. This is not from some Stormfront Nazi site. These are the words of Rav Meir Kahane z"l, hy"d, the man who taught me to stand up with iron in my spine. He Confronted the Holocaust Jewishly. Please read through this. It is not fun reading. There is some Hebrew you'll have trouble with, but you are a smart lady and will pick up the context. Kahane was not a bad writer.
Rav Kahane also taught me the value of being brutally honest with oneself.
Here you will see some of the sources of my sharp condemnatory writing on Jewish society. But behind all this is something else. There is proof. Soldiers from the various Allied forces took plenty of photos of what the Nazis did to my people when they liberated the camps in 1945. The commander of the Allied Forces, General Eisenhower told them that the day would come when some s.o.b. would deny that all this had happened. That day has come. You've seen those photos. I needn't remind you. But, should I need to, I can find thousands of sites to upload those photos here.
You've asserted that my people have committed genocide, Marthe. We both have a pretty clear idea what genocide means. It means deaths - thousands and and hundreds of thousands of deaths. Please provide documentary proof of Israelis committing genocide against Arabs who are native to this land.
I'm not talking about Christian Arabs who kill Arabs from his part of the world in Lebanon. There has been a civil war going on there in one form or another since 1975. And Arabs have fought each other and massacred each other for the last 33 years.
I'm talking about Jews like me, who wear Shields of David around their necks, who have families who were murdered off by Hitler or Stalin or whose families fled from angry Arab mobs in Baghdad or Cairo. I want to see the photos of thousands of Arabs massacred or murdered or gassed - in short, I want to see proof of genocide.
I want to see the same kind of proof that is merely a few clicks away for me to bring you.
This is not an issue of affinity for Arabs - which is something I can easily respect. This is a matter of truth - and honesty.
85 - Salman
Great Post! I found another great post on "Why Vote for Obama?"
Are there any democrats here?