"Would you vote for a candidate who would support the killing of 5 year old boys and girls whose parents no longer wanted them? Would it matter whether or not you agreed with that politician on economic matters or other issues? Would you get under a 'big tent' with a party that had this one teeny weeny flaw which they might call 'pro-choice on child eradication' within its platform? I pray not." (Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family)…
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26 - Dick McEwen
It seems to me that the candidate that intiates an optional war that results in the deaths of over 1800 "boys and girls" that are very much wanted by their parents is the politician and the party that advocates a "pro-choice on child eradication" policy. As a Christian, the failure of Dr. Dobson and other prominant Christian leaders to even consider this, let alone condemn it makes me furious.
Moreover, if one believes that the taking of human life is immoral, laws that permit abortion but do not require it do not force anyone to act immorally. On the other hand, imposition of the death penalty, [particularly given the serious questions about the procedural defects in many cases] requires us all to act in a manner that many consider immoral. In my mind, this is a significant differance that is rarely discussed.
27 - gonzo marx
comment #15 boild it down to the nut of the matter
RealCon sez..
*A true conservative believes in keeping what we had in this country before the hippies came along with their “counterculture:…*
nursing an almost 40 year old Grudge...
before that it woud have been those damned Greasers and their devil made Rock and Roll Music
before that the Swing Kids with all that wild dancing
before that the jazz folks and their floosy Flappers and loose morals..
before that the Suffrage Women who defied their husbands and refused to stay in the home and >gasp< wanted to Vote!!
before that the Abolishionists, wanting to get rid of the cheap labor that nobody else wanted to do
on and on, ad nauseum
nuff said?
Excelsior!
28 - Dave Nalle
Dobson Thread
>>It seems to me that the candidate that intiates an optional war that results in the deaths of over 1800 "boys and girls" that are very much wanted by their parents is the politician and the party that advocates a "pro-choice on child eradication" policy. As a Christian, the failure of Dr. Dobson and other prominant Christian leaders to even consider this, let alone condemn it makes me furious.<<
If you accept the idea that fetuses are living, conscious human beings, there IS a key difference between them and soldiers who are dying in Iraq. The fetuses didn't volunteer to be aborted, while the soldiers are old enough to make decisions and chose to join the army with full awareness that they are likely to be sent to war. That's a pretty important difference, and reprehensible though Dobson and his nutcase followers are, they aren't wrong to draw that distinction.
Dave
29 - RealCon
Glad to see all you -- ex-tr-ee-mus lib-ee-rals -- mustering your forces to maintain “killing the unborn“…
The issue of "choice” -- properly stated -- is the “choice” of death of one who otherwise would live… that is the “only real choice”…
National Geographic has a new TV show covering “Terrestrial Life” -- life on other planets -- Scientists say they would be exuberant to find a “living single cell” anywhere else in the Universe -- they would call it “life” -- and they would certainly not want to kill it… even knowing that it is but a “single cell”,,,
The program says -- “Life is pretty tough -- once you get it started -- it’s very hard to quench…”. (but not on this planet!)
In this country -- we kill several million unborn each year -- up to the point where “viability” (can it live after it is extracted outside the mother if we don‘t kill it now?) is the criteria to douse the “thing” with a chemical strong enough to make Zyklon B -- (a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill typhus-bearing lice and other pests) -- look like Kool Aid…
But -- Real Conservatives want to thank you -- and the Supreme Judicial Court of the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts -- for doing more to defeat John Kerry -- than the quagmire in Iraq -- and all the other problems of this administration -- could ever do…
By “being in our face” -- you have enabled the election of Bush -- who can then appoint Federal Judges (non-activist - that is) to the bench -- who will follow the Constitution as it was written… not as lib-ee-rals might want it to be -- and no “penumbras“)…
Non urinat in ventum!
30 - Demi
BTP, does your whole life revolve around conspiracy theories? Thank the heavens for blogs... otherwise all that wasted energy would not have an outlet.
31 - RealCon
“It seems to me that the candidate that intiates an optional war that results in the deaths of over 1800 "boys and girls" that are very much wanted by their parents is the politician and the party that advocates a "pro-choice on child eradication" policy. As a Christian, the failure of Dr. Dobson and other prominant Christian leaders to even consider this, let alone condemn it makes me furious.”
You are right in being furious…
But the war in Iraq has nothing to do with the issue of abortion (life or death of the unborn)…
It has everything to do with politics…
Why did President Bush decide to go to war? In whose interests was it launched?
Thousands of American casualties and billions of (borrowed) dollars later -- the truth is still being kept from Americans by the mainstream media…
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml
32 - Dave Nalle
What impresses me about RealCon is his ability to be on the wrong side of absolutely every issue. I wonder how he feels about social security and tax reform...
Dave
33 - RealCon
Re; Comment 32
“What impresses me about RealCon is his ability to be on the wrong side of absolutely every issue. I wonder how he feels about social security and tax reform…”
Probably the same “wrong side” as Dave.
34 - Big Time Patriot
"BTP, does your whole life revolve around conspiracy theories?"
I admit I have a fondness for conspiracies, but sometimes conspiracies are true. For instance, back before the Iraq war, when George Bush was saying that he hadn't decided whether to go to war or not, many of us believed that he was flat out lying and war was ineveitable.
Just recently it turns out that our belief in a conspiracy of George Bush deciding to war Iraq first and trying to make up a reason second was shared by that other completely freaking liberal hotbed known as the British Intelligence services...
But, hey, if you just don't hold George Bush accountable for his own words OR hold him accountable for the results of his actions, why, other than that he is our greatest American President ever and a natural favorite of the Almighty. If you DO pay attention to the things he says and compare them to what he does, you might suspect him of being an old Texas oil flim flam man (Am I the only one who remembers that the show Dallas was based on the well accepted premise that Texas oil men had the ethics of weasels?)
35 - Demi
BTP...
Nobody said ANY president was accountable... Absolute power corrupts absolutely. That should be a basic theory on conspiracy 101.
36 - Dave Nalle
>>Probably the same “wrong side” as Dave.<
There's a depressing through - me and RealCon agreeing about something.
Dave