Is Ron Paul a Double Threat Candidate? - Page 2

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In fact, based on the combination of his personal views and policy positions, Paul may not be the marginal candidate many assume him to be. With the exception of hardcore neoconservatives for whom an aggressive foreign policy is paramount - a viewpoint in disrepute after the failures of the Bush era - Paul has something to offer most of the other constituencies within the Republican party. His hands-off policies appeal to many social conservatives as well as libertarians. His clear personal religious faith attracts religious conservatives. His fiscally conservative policies appeal to both those who want government reform and to pro-business Republicans. In addition, the latest FoxNews poll shows asked voters who was the "true conservative" in the race and 40% answered Paul while 34% answered Santorum. Clearly Paul has created a larger niche as both the most Conservative and most Libertarian candidate in the race.

In Iowa Romney got almost none of the conservative vote while Santorum ended up sharing the conservative vote with Paul. But unlike Paul, Santorum has very little money and even less appeal to voters outside of that hardcore conservative base. Santorum polls very poorly in New Hampshire and without money he lacks the legs to catch up with other candidates. As Santorum's Iowa surge fades, it's quite likely that many of his supporters - who may be "anyone but Mitt" voters - will move to Paul with whom he shares conservative common ground.

If it proves to be true that Paul has two bases of support within the Republican Party, winning over both serious conservatives and libertarians, that puts him in position to be the preeminent challenger to Romney's broad but lukewarm appeal. Though the media may continue to argue that Paul is unelectable, with this clear evidence that his base of support is much broader than originally believed, this may come down to a very close two-man race between Romney and Paul.

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  • 1 - roger nowosielski

    Jan 03, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    Santorum definitely won't last even if he wins Iowa, Gingrich is already fading, so you may well be right.

  • 2 - Arch Conservative

    Jan 03, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    I think that a major part of Ron Paul's appeal is that, agree with him or not, most can recognize that when he goes out in public and speaks he is actually saying the things that he believes and not the things that his handlers have told him would get the most votes based on the latest opinion polls.

    Year in and year out we see from both sides of the aisle nothing but a collection of pure political animals who would sell their own mothers to reach that next tier in their ambitious quest for political power and recognition.

    Ron Paul's candor and integrity is a breath of fresh air. However he will most likely not be the GOP nominee let alone the president as there are far too many Americans that are far too vested in lying to themselves and supporting politicians that lie to them.

    While it is true as you point out Nalle that my home state of NH is more libertarian leaning than Iowa, I'd point out that we, as a group, are more pragmatic than idealistic. In the midterms NH elected a republican to almost every seat that was up for election in the state. It was a bloodbath for Democrats in NH in 2010. (contrast that with our idiot neighbors to the south who elected nothing but Dems at a time when the rest of the nation was turning their backs on the Democrats) NH will be looking in 2011 to pick someone in it's GOP primary who has the best shot at beating Barack Obama and that man is Mitt Romney. I will be voting for Ron Paul in the NH primary but expecting Romney to win it by at least 10 points.

  • 3 - roger nowosielski

    Jan 03, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    He'd have abetter chance if he slowed down his rate of speech. Creates the impression of being nervous.

    Probably it's before your time, Arch, but his dad, George, was more impressive as a political persona.

  • 4 - Arch Conservative

    Jan 03, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Yes much before my time. I was born when Carter was inflicting his own unique brand of misery on the nation. I seem to remember reading something about George Romney saying something about the being brainwashed by the military brass in Vietnam and this sentiment putting the kibosh on his presidential ambitions much in the way a drive in a 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88 on a fair summer night in 1969 killed the presidential ambitions of one "Senator Swimmer" from Massachusetts.

    Willard may well be an intelligent guy but he doesn't come off as quick on his feet.

  • 5 - Igor

    Jan 04, 2012 at 8:46 am

    What happened to "... his impending victory in the Iowa Caucus."? (Talking about Ron Paul.)

    Did the author of the article, Nalle, have any credibility at BlogCritics? It's gone now.

  • 6 - Glenn Contrarian

    Jan 04, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Dave Nalle does have credibility in that he presents the libertarian point of view and has much more exposure to inner workings of the GOP than most of us here do. That doesn't mean he is any better at prognostication than the rest of us - besides, those involved in politics are largely required to predict victory even when being ground to dust in the jaws of defeat.

  • 7 - Igor

    Jan 04, 2012 at 10:02 am

    #2-Arch must not have been following the scandals about Ron Pauls evident racism and coverup: "Ron Paul's candor and integrity is a breath of fresh air...".

  • 8 - Dr Dreadful

    Jan 04, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Igor: the ABR (Anyone But Romney) gang and the religious maniac gang got together behind Santorum, and Paul and Bachmann suffered for it (she's done). Still a good showing though, especially as not all state Republican Parties are as demented as the Iowa one seems to be.

  • 9 - Glenn Contrarian

    Jan 04, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Igor -

    I agree about Arch. How anyone could believe a man who claims that he didn't know that racist and inflammatory statements were being made in HIS magazine over a period of years...is beyond me.

  • 10 - Bubba Habermas

    Jan 04, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Arch has already admitted to having troubles with reality on another thread so don't be to hard on him. And I don't mean Roger, Glenn

  • 11 - Arch Conservative

    Jan 04, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Just like you dolts choose not to believe all the ugly things that are said about the Obamessiah (which mostly happen to be true), I do not believe Ron Paul is a racist.


    I'd take Paul over the rest of the NWO freaks being presented us.

  • 12 - zingzing

    Jan 04, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    what are those things, archie, and why are they true? i'm really asking... you have registered your distaste for the king of kings, but you haven't spelled out your reasons.

  • 13 - Arch Conservative

    Jan 04, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    There's the whole Reverend Wright thing for example.....The very people that are so sure that Paul is a racist are the same ones that said Obama sitting in a pew in front of a deranged pastor for two decades in no way reflects upon Obama.

  • 14 - zingzing

    Jan 04, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    (first, do you think that obama sitting in church in front of a man who believes in a bearded spirit in the sky reflects upon obama in any way?)

    archie, are you religious? i think you've said you're not. that said, have you gone to church in the past? frequently?

    obama proclaimed himself to be a christian because he had to in order to get into political office in this great nation of ours. he's done little since to make it seem like his "faith" is anything other than a necessity for his job.

    if you step back for a minute, i doubt you'll see much of rev wright in obama. but you can't do that, i suppose.

    if you refuse to believe paul is a racist for saying that "90% of african americans are criminal or are going to be" or whatever it was, do you believe rev. wright's crazy talk had any affect on obama?

  • 15 - zingzing

    Jan 04, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    or do you think it was a pretty clever (although failed,) attempt by the right to claim obama guilty by association?

  • 16 - Glenn Contrarian

    Jan 04, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    zing -

    Don't you know that every bad trait that can be associated with a human being is personified in Obama? Just ask Archie's fellow conservatives like the evangelicals, the teabaggers, the banksters and corporatists, the militia groups (including every neo-nazi group out there since apparently all of them hate anybody who's not white)....

  • 17 - zingzing

    Jan 04, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    i guess all i get from archie is a bunch of unfounded character judgments (archie doesn't know the guy, and neither do i, so i guess archie could be right, but there's no real reason to suspect so).

    the "incompetent president" line seems like an afterthought, and that only the latest right-wing line (after they stopped saying he was the ant-christ then hitler then stalin). if he's "incompetent," that would be because of republican obstruction of his attempt to turn us into socialist europe or whatever, and archie should be happy. HAPPY! such is right-wing "logic," i suppose.

    i don't really give a shit about archie's opinion of the man's character... they aren't going to be dating or anything, so spare me the jilted girlfriend routine... i want reality-based political actions that archie disagrees with. but he can't seem to point any out at this point.

  • 18 - Dave Nalle

    Jan 04, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Technically Paul did win, as the result of the Iowa caucus was a three way tie. Regardless of the exact vote count, each of the top three candidates, including Paul will get 7 convention delegates.

    Dave

  • 19 - Glenn Contrarian

    Jan 04, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Dave -

    You know in your heart of hearts that Paul cannot win. The best he can hope for is a VP nomination - but that might be a viable strategy for Romney, since Republicans would hold their noses and vote 'R' anyway, Romney might pull a percentage of the moderates his way, and Paul will certainly pull even some Dems his way.

    But I'd rather see a Santorum/Bachmann presidency than to see Ron Paul in the White House, for our political system was designed by the founders to work with deal-making, and America would suffer greatly with an ideologue like Ron Paul in the White House (even if he isn't racist (but you and I both know he is)).

    To your credit, IIRC you supported Gary Johnson more, so please consider the anti-Paul statement an attack on Paul and not on you.

  • 20 - Igor

    Jan 05, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Point taken, Dave.

  • 21 - Bubba Habermas

    Jan 05, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    what's the whole Rev Wright thing? That he said America got what's coming? Obviously a religious man would believe that God was punishing America for its sins, much the way other preachers have

  • 22 - Arch Conservative

    Jan 05, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    "i want reality-based political actions that archie disagrees with. but he can't seem to point any out at this point."

    For starters Obama and the Dems added 4 trillion to the debt in 2 years and they also passed a monstrous healthcare reform bill that they not only attempted to justify by using the most perverse, twisted interpretation of the commerce clause but which will also not make healthcare more affordable or accessible for the average American.

  • 23 - Arch Conservative

    Jan 06, 2012 at 9:32 pm


    "You know in your heart of hearts that Paul cannot win."

    What I know is that Paul cannot win because the majority of my fellow Americans are too GD ignorant to recognize a good thing when it comes along. They are entirely too vested in the lies they have been telling themselves for years and the mainstream politicians that have been selling them lies for years.

    That's what I know at 12:30am on Friday night bi$+h!


  • 24 - Dave Nalle

    Jan 06, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    Glenn, Paul has shown some ability to compromise recently, much to my surprise. And a Santorum/Bachmann ticket could never get elected.

    I much prefer the idea of a Paul/Huntsman match-up. It would be electable and between them they balance out very nicely.

    Dave

  • 25 - Arch Conservative

    Jan 07, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Compromise?

    Can someone please explain the virtue of compromising with those whose belief system is just about 180 degrees from your own? I don't get it.

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