Iranian president Mahmoud "Israel Should Be Wiped Off the Map" Ahmadinejad has asked the association of Islamic Journalists of Iran to put together an international conference on the Holocaust. It's nice to see the long-standing tradition of Persian scholarship being applied to such an important topic. One can only assume it will be conducted within the strictures of disinterested academic debate. This would be satirical of sorts, if it weren't true.
Here's a statement from an Islamic Journalists of Iran spokesman:
[President Ahmadinejad] has placed at the centre of international attention, a very important question on the truthfulness of the version that Europe and the Zionists have imposed on the world on the murder of Jews during the years of the great war.Whoops, a bit of a stumble out of the starting blocks, there. But hey, the president of Iran is only interested in having a truly open debate, unfettered by the anti-revisionist laws that predominate in Europe. That way, according to the IJI spokesman, Iran can offer a "free and democratic platform to the historians to examine in-depth this myth" (emphasis added to show just how crazily anti-Semitic this really is). On a positive note, this marks the first time in years that Iran has called for anything to be either free or democratic. Baby steps.
If the Holocaust conference goes well, Ahmadinejad next plans to convene an international conference of law enforcement officials to help O.J. search for Nicole's real killer.
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— go to most recent comments1 - Bing
Yeah the president of Iran is saying things like "israel should be wiped off the face of the earth, is possibly one of the terrorists who took Americans hostage in 1979, is workign on nukes, and all the leiberals in America can do is scream about how Bush is the biggest terrorist and danger in the world.
RIIIIIIIIIGGHHHHHHT
Keep drinking that kool aid you moonbats.
2 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
One man's mede is another man's poison - oops persian.
Support for this regime is a lot thinner than folks realize. There are often riots which relate to the fact that there are lots of Persians who have no use for the theocracy and have no use for Shia Islam.
Many Persians would prefer to be what they were before the Moslems came bursting out of Arabia - Zoroastrians.
3 - Aaman
Cookie due to Ruvy, who must be up late.
We call them Parsis, and they make the best food this, or any, side of the Suez - ever tried Dhansak?
4 - gonzo marx
ya know Bing...i was right there with you until you typed this...
*and all the leiberals in America can do is scream about how Bush is the biggest terrorist and danger in the world.*
as soon as you started with an unsubstantiated, broad brush, dittohead piece of libelous bullshit like this...ya lose all credibility
oh yeah..and the "moonbat" bit is a dead giveaway
try and stick to articulating what you see worng, arguer on the substantive Issues..hell, try the Facts...tha should be plenty of ammo for you...Bog knows the Iranians are kooky enough on their own
but once you haul out unreasoning partisan agenda spewage, you run the risk of being ignored for being just as much of a "moonbat" as those you rant against
just trying to help
(for the Record, i tend to agree that anything coming form the official Iranian sources is pretty much bullshit)
Excelsior!
5 - Matthew T. Sussman
I don't trust any country named after a Flock of Seagulls hit song.
Which reminds me -- did we try looking for bin Ladin in Kajagoogoostan?
6 - Bing
It's called comparing and contrasting gonzo.
The fact is there are a lot of people in AMerica on the left who think Bush is worse than the president of Iran wether I use a broad brush or not.
There are no words to express the stupidity of these people.
7 - gonzo marx
well Bing, the same might be said for those that claim...
*all the leiberals in America can do is scream about how Bush is the biggest terrorist and danger in the world.*
that would be like saying all the GOP are neocons( they are not) or that all neocons are fascists ( again, not true)
or any other bullshit bit of stereotypical crap
but you do as ya like..i was just pointing out that such spewage makes you appear no more than a frothing dittoheqad...and that you had just made some excellent points prior to it
nuff said?
Excelsior!
8 - Bing
Where are you form gonzo?
I am from NH so most of my first hand exposure to liberals is to those who live in Massachusetts. Massacusetts liberals are a particularly vile brand of liberals. They are quite wicky wacky in the woowoo. I mean they re-elect Kennedy and Kerry for pete's sake.
"Nuff said" about Massholeachusetts.
Are all liberals this vile and evil? Of course not and I know that. It's just that the only people on either side who seem to get all the attention are the extremist nuts.
So to recap...
I know there are different flavors of liberal and some are semi-decent and reasonable, like Joe Lieberman, he seems like a pretty decent guy.
But I stand by my contention that groups like the ACLU, Planned Abortionhood, Moveon are comprised of extreme leftwing screwballs and I hate them with a burning passion.
9 - gonzo marx
well Bing..i am from the Jersey shore, now i live in Maine
and after you last line , all i can say is we will have to agree to disagree
for the Record..i am an Independant, i belong to neither "gang" and think that labels such as what you utilize distract from the actual Issues as well as stop any real progresss in getting things done
politically, i am a bit of a fiscal conservative(the checkbook MUST balance), but a social libertarian (as long as ya ain't hurting anybody..it's your business, not anyone else's)
moveon.org is about the same stripe as Scaife and Fox news...the other two organizations are not in the same category to me
hope that helps
Excelsior!
10 - Matthew T. Sussman
Bingster, why hate people you disagree with?
11 - Pete Blackwell
Bing said: Yeah the president of Iran is saying things like "israel should be wiped off the face of the earth, is possibly one of the terrorists who took Americans hostage in 1979, is workign on nukes, and all the leiberals in America can do is scream about how Bush is the biggest terrorist and danger in the world.
We'll, I'm a liberal (usually) and I wrote this article. So what does that say for your theory?
It seems like you're just railing against a point that nobody made.
BTW, if you misspell "liberal" as "leiberal" you miss a tremendous opportunity to spell it "lieberal" instead. Or, as you guys like to make sure you're subtlety is not being missed, LIEberal.
Give it a try. It might work for you.
12 - Bing
Why do I hate the far left? Hmmmmm let me see.
I hate them because they want to ruin everything that is decent and traditional about America.
I hate them because they want to coddle terrorists and make it more difficult to prevent us from stopping more 911's such as the ACLU objecting every time we take a step in this direction. My children will be at greater risk because of this.
I hate them because they live in a vaccum of personal accountability and responsibility. They have an excuse for everything and everyone.
I hate them because they value the lives of filth like Tookie Williams more than they do than those of innocent babies.
I hate them because they believe in equality of results and standard of living despite the obvious inequality of effort put forth in American society.
I hate them because they say we should be more like Europe. If they feel that way they should move there.
I hate them because they their blue state hearts bleed for everyone but blue states actually give far less in charitable donations than red states.
I hate them because they think Bill Clinton was an economic genius when any fool who has taken an economics 101 class can tell you it was the private sector .com/internet boom that drove the economy during the 90's.
I hate them because they worship at the altar of political correctness.
I hate them because they call me a racist when it is they who call any black person who doesn't agree with them or dares vote republican an "uncle tom."
I could write a book on why I hate them but there's a taste for you Matthew.
13 - Dave Nalle
I like that he made this announcement the same week that they arrested two more bloggers in Iran. They sure love that free and open discourse.
Dave
14 - gonzo marx
Bing, again you aim for the sterotypical, rather than make specific arguments...
one example...
*I hate them because they want to ruin everything that is decent and traditional about America.*
as in?
or here was my favorite...
*I hate them because they want to coddle terrorists and make it more difficult to prevent us from stopping more 911's such as the ACLU objecting every time we take a step in this direction.*
now, i don't know anyone that has advocated "coddling terrorists"...however i myself have spoken out about the very conservative and traditional value of the Rule of Law and adhereing to the Bill of Rights...and that those Rights are for EVERYONE at ALL times...to do any less desecrates and denigrates all that Americans have fought and died for
does that make me a liberal?
i will take one last try at actual communication with you, for the sake of Clarity and in the hope of provoking some Thought...
why don't you stop thinking in blanket terms, and take each person and Issue on it's own...then make up your own mind...
other than that, i don't know what else to say in the face of such blind animosity and sheer factual innacuracy
fair enough?
Excelsior!
15 - Alice
Bing, you forgot to mention another good reason.
People who re-elect over and over the man who went off a bridge at Chappaquidick in 1969 and left a yourg woman to die.
16 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
Aaman, I think I'll take my cookie now. I just got finished reading the other comments.
In Israel we call the folks from Iran Farsiím, and they speak Farsi. And you can always tell a Farsi accent in Hebrew. Never got the chance to try dhansak. Whewn I have some money in my wallet (a rare occurrence), I'll look up a Farsi restaurant and see if I can handle the prices on the menu.
There is a story in the pending box from me. There will be another one tomorrow.
17 - Dave Nalle
Ruvy, if you get to a Farsi restaurant make sure to order desert. They make some excellent ideologically neutral deserts.
Dave
18 - zingzing
what are you talking about here?: "I hate them because they believe in equality of results and standard of living despite the obvious inequality of effort put forth in American society."
that's either racist or stupid. or something. it makes no sense. "equality of results?"
"I hate them because they live in a vaccum of personal accountability and responsibility. They have an excuse for everything and everyone."
oh shut up. bush?
"I hate them because they value the lives of filth like Tookie Williams more than they do than those of innocent babies."
two separate issues. they have nothing to do with each other. one is the mother's decision, the other is the state's.
"I hate them because they their blue state hearts bleed for everyone but blue states actually give far less in charitable donations than red states."
so everyone in a red state is a conservative? sure they are. silly, silly man.
"I hate them because they want to ruin everything that is decent and traditional about America."
yes! yes! we want to destroy! no, you said ruin! aww... did i ruin your good day? go kill something.
"I hate them because they say we should be more like Europe. If they feel that way they should move there."
why don't you go to some extremely conservative country where nothing will ever be threatened again? it's our country too.
"I hate them because they call me a racist when it is they who call any black person who doesn't agree with them or dares vote republican an "uncle tom.""
no, we don't. don't put words (especially those kind of words) in my mouth... your gonna get spit on that way.
have a nice day, sir.
19 - Bennett
Personally, I believe you have to be pretty messed up brain-wise to invest energy in "hating" a simplistically generalized segment of society.
As if any one of us fits into the little box Bing has created in his head to portray the evil "Liberal".
Feh. Lazy thinking coupled with overactive hate glands is what it is.
20 - Bing
Ok zing i will explain it to you a little better so that you [Deleted] may understand.
1. Equality of results versus inequality of effort
This basically means that most liberals believe that everyone in society is entitled to the same standard of living regardless of the effort the put into thier own standard of living. IE the bum sitting on the couch all day lomg who doesn't work just because he doesn't feel like it is entitled to a home just as nice as the guy who works 80 hours a week busting his ass doing whatever he has to at his job to make his own life better.
2. Liberals live in a vaccum of personal responsibility. Well let's see, pretty much every time you hear about a sex pedophoile murderer who had been in prison it's usually the situation that he was let out after a few years by a liberal judge to kill again. Every time there is opposition to tracking systems for dangerous pedophiles it's usually from far left groups like the ACLU. Whenever there's a drunk driver in court liberal attorneys come to the rescue. I could go on and on with this one but the basci point is that most liberals are hesitant in blaming and punishing someone for the negative consequences of thier own actions. Liberals would rather blame society than the individual.
3. Tookie Williams the great humanitarian. These issues have everything to do with each other. In a prison execution a life is taken. In an abortion a life is being taken. So it is more than fair to compare these two events. In one the life of a convicted killer who has very little to offer society is being taken while in the other an innocent child who has never harmed anyone is being taken. It's disgusting that liberals would rather save the convicted killer than the child.
4. Blue state versus red state Well duh...not everyone in a red state is conservative and vice versa but in general most are....just look at the culture in the states and election results. Facts being facts which I know you probably don't like when they don't support your view of the world zing, states that are more conservative generally give more in charitable donations than those states full of "progressives" who care so much about thier fellow man. John Kerry is a prime example of this little bit of blue state hypocrisy. John Kerry has voted to raise taxes on the public more often then not. However in his home state of Massachusetts there is an option to pay to levels of taxes a high one and a lower level. John Kerry, while seeing fit to raise taxes ont he public has NEVER chosen to pay the higher level of taxes on his own tax returns.
5. Traditional and moral. Ah yes. Wether you liberals liek it or not this country was founded on judeo christian values. Your attempts to deny this history are disgusting. We weren't founded on abortion, gay marriage, promiscuity, moral relevance and the ACLU.
6. Be more liek Europe I can't rememebr how many times I heard some [Deleted] liberal make the bold proclamation "If Bush wins I'm moving to Canada" during the elections last year but funny thing is they're all still here. Liberals like to bash the american way of life while glorifying that of the europeans. It's trendy is something is european. It's better. Even the leftist judges on our own supreme court cited european law in a recent decision. Exqueeze me? An American supreme court justice is stating in his opinion that his decision was based in part on european law? And as far as me going to an extremely conservative country....I'm already in one pal. Republicans and conservatives have won more elections recently at every level of goverment than libs and Dems so maybe you should find a more liberal country Zing.
7. Lastly The race issue. It is the bread and butter of liberals to call anyone who disagrees with them on an issue even remotely pertaining to race a racist. A recent example is that of Michael steele, the Virginia lieutenant governeor who just happens to be black and a republican. Well there were certain left wing websites that did in fact call him "little black sambo" and "oreo cookie." But I guess comments like that aren't racist if a liberal or a democrat is saying them. Liberals and Democrats think they own the minds of black people and that if a black person dares espouse republican or conservative views then that black person is "not really black" or is a "race traitior." I don't know about you zing but I can't think of anything more racist than expecting a person to have a certain political/social beliefe system because they are a certain race and then bashing them if they don't have that belief system that you expected them to have. There is a double standard in this nation. liberals are always allowed to say anything they want abour race, racism, race relations and they are always right, but conservatives are always racists no matter what they say. Well this liberal rule is of course absolute horseshit and more when in actuality more liberals seem to be racist.
Basically zing the far left is a vile bunch of malcontents that do not represent the majority of Americans. To be fair neither does the far right. But as recent past elections have proven America tends to be a more conservative nation that longs for the traditional American way of life rather than this new morally relevant so called "progressive" way.
21 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
"Ruvy, if you get to a Farsi restaurant make sure to order desert. They make some excellent ideologically neutral deserts.
Dave"
We have plenty of deserts here and they all come for free. They are all ideologically neutral, too. They are equal opportunity killers. The floods do you in in the winter and the heat dries you to death in the summer.
As for dessert, if I can get to a Farsi restaurant, I'll let YOU pay. I'm sure I can count on a nice guy like you...
22 - Clubhouse Cancer
Bing: Turn off the radio.
23 - Dave Nalle
Sure, Ruvy. We've got a couple of Farsi restaurants here in Austin. Drop me an email next time you're in town. Of course if you were in Austin it would make a lot more sense to get Barbeque.
Is there barbeque in Israel?
Strangely we have no Israeli restaurants, but we have some good Jewish delis. Is there a style of food which is distinctively Israeli as opposed to what we see here in the US?
Dave
24 - Aaman
I wish there were Parsi restaurants near me
25 - zingzing
bing-
no, my "feeble mind" doesn't understand you or your ideas. i can't see how somebody would be willing to give up their own freedoms, much less have the audacity to deny others freedom at the same time. you can do what you want... but don't you dare tell me what i can't do. it's not "american." white people...
your points, by your numbers:
1. no one believes that a bum who doesn't work deserves a nice house and a car. that's just ridiculous. they do deserve a meal, bed and a toilet. the only thing they ever did to deserve that much was being born.
2. people are only let off when they have served their time, and have been deemed by the judge to be of minimal threat to reoffend. if they get off before they should, there is probably some technicality at work, which is something the judge can't control. liberals don't like "sex pedophile murderers" anymore than you do.
3. i believe that abortion/death penalty debates come down to "choice," and who has said "choice." in abortion, i believe that a mother has a choice to make, it's her body, and that she has a limited time to do so. the death penalty is a choice that the state makes. the state has no right. if you believe murder is murder, then tookie williams should be living. can't have it both ways, bing.
4. the majority of states, red or blue, had election margins of 60/40 at most. most states are quite balanced. their politics may leap one way or another, but that's because 60/40 is a large margin in politics. in population, and in giving, the margin doesn't tell you much about anything, especially charitable habits.
5. sure, the us was founded on judeo-christian values. point. it was also founded on personal and religious freedom, so if i want to plant a tree in my front yard, worship it for a day, wrap it in an american flag, burn it down, screw a woman and marry a man in the ashes, i'll do it. and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it. "abortion, gay marriage, promiscuity, moral relevance and the ACLU" all sound like fun/freedom to me. you like fun, yeah?
6. europe has long traditions, white people being one, and it is always good to look at what works in other countries. it's just a good idea. take advice, use it. what the hell is wrong with that? isn't it weird that every time a republican has been in office over the last 20 years, we seem to get into a goddamn war? oh, and i did find a more liberal country: seattle. easy. and beautiful. with contemptable laws in the strip clubs... and about smoking... damn liberals.
7. yeah, certain leftists are as racist as certain rightists. no point in arguing that. the majority of people that i know are not racist, right or left, red or blue. just don't say that all liberals are racists, which is what you tried to do.
there is no "traditional American way of life." it just doesn't exist. what's your tradition? hmm? bet you it's far different from mine, the person you sit next to in the office, the guy you sat next to on the bus or in traffic. every one of us has our own traditions and values, which are all protected under the constitution. america does not "tend to be a conservative nation," it is just getting older and more fearful. the times we live in are controlling our politics more than anything else: the threat of nuclear/terrorist attack, a fear-mongoring president, bird flu, a staggering economy, the price of gas, aging baby-boomers. i think that last one is incredibly important. as they begin to die off (over the next 15-30 years), you will see the political pendulum swinging back to the left. slowly at first... but eventually, you better be ready for a party.