Interview: Michael Badnarik, Libertarian Candidate for Texas House District 10 - Part 1

Part of: On The Road To 2008

You may have heard of Michael Badnarik. In 2004 he ran for President on the Libertarian ticket and although he only got the usual few hundred thousand votes nationwide, he ran a strong campaign, made an effective presentation for the Libertarian party, travelled all over the country, and did a good job speaking out for individual liberty and personal responsibility.

After that campaign ended he came back home to Austin and almost immediately set to work on a new campaign, challenging Rep. Michael McCaul for Texas House District 10.

McCaul is a good target, because he's only served one term and it hasn't been terribly distinguished. He's been a pretty serious disappointment to voters in his diverse district, voting the straight GOP party line and coming down on the wrong side of almost every swing issue. He voted for the USA PATRIOT Act renewal, against funding stem cell research, against medical marijuana, for the Real ID and for banning same sex marriage. He's not exactly a friend of liberty or a political visionary. He just does what he's told.

House District 10 runs from Northeast Austin to Northeast Houston and includes a lot of rural territory and small towns. There are lots and lots of small businesses and a lot of people who've moved into exurban communities like Katy, Elgin, Pflugerville and Manor which is where I live. It's Republican territory, but it's not exactly the Bible belt. It actually has a rather high concentration of Libertarians and liberty-oriented Republicans, not unlike House District 14 which is just south of it and has been sending notorious Libertarian Republican Ron Paul to Washington for a decade now.

It's not that crazy an idea for Badnarik to set his sights on a Republican seat. In 2004 the only Democrat was a write-in candidate, and though they've managed to find a candidate this time in the form of 'Fighting Dem' Ted Ankrum, he's not terribly appealing. McCaul is running his campaign as if he's unopposed, and Ankrum's campaign has been dumped by the DCCC - like most of the other 'Fighting Dems' - and he's getting no financial support from the party.

Badnarik's campaign is more impressive and professional than any Libertarian effort I've seen since I worked on the Ed Clark campaign back in 1980. Badnarik has actually managed to raise over $300,000 in donations, which is comparable with what major party candidates are spending in many races, and way more than Ankrum who can barely rub two coins together. He's got rented offices and a paid staff of four plus lots of volunteers. He's even got three billboards and I hear there may even be TV ads in the offing. As Third Party Watch points off, this effort might be better directed at an easier target, but it's a hard campaign to just dismiss.

I'll admit I still think he's a longshot, but it's nice to see a Libertarian running a real campaign, and it is an excellent platform from which he can make his voice heard. If nothing else, he's helping to make Texas politics interesting. With all of this in mind, I was happy to get an opportunity last week to sit down and ask Michael some questions. We talked for quite a while, so I've broken the interview into two parts.

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  • 1 - Roberta

    Sep 18, 2006 at 9:18 am

    Good for Michael Badnarik, I hope he wins. Finally, Libertarians are getting some press.
    Bill Peirce, Libertarian for Ohio's Gubernatorial race

    Good article, looking forward to part 2.

  • 2 - Nancy

    Sep 18, 2006 at 9:37 am

    Terrific article, well done, Dave! I don't agree totally with his ideas, but I really hope he wins, because he's on target in that the current incumbents both GOP & Dem have forgotten THEY work for us, and this country desperately needs a 3rd - and even a 4th - alternative party for people to choose from. I'm surprised the GOP hasn't targeted him & started their usual smear campaign; perhaps they don't regard him as being enough of a threat? What do you hear about that?

    I've always thought it was a vast mistake for alternate party candidates to run for president; without some kind of prior position such as congressman or governor, it's virtually impossible. Even Ross Perot with all his billions was unable to buck the system in the end, more's the pity.

    Well, here's to Badnarik; good luck to him & all of us. Good job, Dave!

  • 3 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 18, 2006 at 11:15 am

    Badnarik addresses the issue you raise at some point in the interview, as I recall. His argument is that you get a lot more exposure for your ideas as a presidential candidate and if you're not going to win anyway, you want to not win with the largest possible audience.

    Dave

  • 4 - Nancy

    Sep 18, 2006 at 11:27 am

    Yeah, but look at Lyndon LaRouche, the perennial Presidential candidate. He's been running for eons, but his platform gets nowhere. It's a joke. Now if he'd perhaps gone (back before he became a household byword for crackpot) for a local position & solidified from there, to a seat in the Virginia assembly, and from there to a seat in congress or perhaps governor, he'd have had a viable position from which to get out the message. As it is, he's just the crackpot who runs for president every 4 years. As I said, I think it would take someone with the bank account of a Bill Gates to try to break in on a national level, these days, and even that would be an uphill job, given the ruthless desperation of the two entrenched parties to prevent anyone else from joining the fray. After all, look at the savaging Bush/Rove inflicted on fellow Republicans; talk about eating your own young! I hardly think they'd be nicer to a wanna-be 3rd party or its candidate.

    Anyway, I DO hope he wins. Good job, Dave.

  • 5 - Lumpy

    Sep 18, 2006 at 4:50 pm

    What larouche runs for is kind of irrelevant since he's so obviously a deranged maniac.

  • 6 - Clavos

    Sep 18, 2006 at 5:32 pm

    Very interesting interview, Dave.

    I like much most of Badnarik's ideas expressed here, but I'm not in agreement with his wanting to do away with GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA, and trade agreements in general.

    I'm afraid if we do, other nations will impose tarriffs and other restrictions unilaterally, and the net result will be a loss of market position on a worldwide basis for American businesses.

    He makes a strong point when he talks about his potential for supporting and backing up Ron Paul.

    I wonder how realistic he is when he dismisses your point about committee memberships?

  • 7 - Jet in Columbus

    Sep 18, 2006 at 6:07 pm

    Now if we can keep idiots from confusing the Libertarians from the Communists he'll be all set.

  • 8 - George Whitfield

    Sep 18, 2006 at 6:29 pm

    I really like the way Michael Badnarik explains his positions. I am so glad that I contributed to his campaign for Congress in Texas. I wish him the best.

  • 9 - Al Barger

    Sep 18, 2006 at 8:49 pm

    I like Michael Badnarik very much, but I'm really dismayed by this quote and the implications: "If you are here illegally you have just demonstrated that you have no respect for law and it is not immigration."

    I appreciate that there are problems associated with the massive not government approved immigration from Mexico, particularly involving the US welfare state getting stuck picking up the slack from sub-living wages. That's more a reason to reform and cut back on various aspects of the welfare state than to be against immigration though, I'd argue.

    But this common argument that being here illegally means that you're an outlaw is absolutely bullshit, and it's especially dismaying to hear this from a Libertarian. As a good Libertarian, Badnarik won't recognize laws that are unconstitutional. Beyond that, he won't recognize the legal legitimacy of the income tax, which is constitutional, on grounds that they are violations of our basic liberty. I'm right there with him on all that. Just because some legislature passes a law or a judge makes an edict does not automatically make it legitimate or morally binding.

    But then how does someone who speaks this way turn around in the next sentence and demonize people coming here to work for people who want to hire them and rent them places to live, just because the government has arbitrarily decided that they can't?

    And he's certainly kidding himself if he thinks that a serious crackdown on unapproved immigration won't involve some kind of ugly national ID crap. Jumpin' Jehosaphat, this fellow spent years refusing to get a driver's license on principle- and now he's wanting ID for people to establish their right even to walk the street.

  • 10 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 18, 2006 at 9:11 pm

    Very good point, Al. Many Libertarians believe in open borders and I did ask Badnarik about this and got a kind of cagey inadequate answer rejecting open borders but not really addressing the implications. I really wanted to take him to task on some of this, but I didnt' think it was my place as the interviewer to start lecturing him. He's a nice guy, but even though he's more sensible than the norm of Libertarians, he's still not dealing entirely in the real world.

    We had an interesting talk outside of the interview about some aspects of LP politics that I didn't have any formal questions on, and apparently even the small compromises with practicality which he's made have pissed off a lot of the far-out Murray Rothbard style Libertarians - the same people who protest when Neal Boortz gets invited to speak at their convention.

    Dave

  • 11 - me

    Sep 23, 2006 at 10:51 pm

    "... dumped...like most of the other 'Fighting Dems' - and he's getting no financial support from the party.."

    How much is Bush paying you to claim this?

    got any evidence?

    I didn't think so.

  • 12 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 24, 2006 at 1:16 am

    'me', what is your problem? The abandonment of the Fighting Dems by the DCCC is well documented. And can't you use a hyperlink? I provided a link to DailyKos specifically about how Ankrum has been dumped.

    One would think that if you're a 'new democrat' you'd be outraged at Rahm Emanuel and the DCCC for their outrageous treatment of the Fighting Dems rather than taking it out on me for mentioning it.

    Dave

  • 13 - Scott

    Sep 25, 2006 at 4:40 pm

    The DCCC's support (or lack thereof) for Ankrum has more to do with the 10th district's conservative leanings rather than the fact that Ankrum is a fighting Dem. You can't win them all...I suspect their money is going into more "winnable" districts.

  • 14 - Lumoy

    Sep 25, 2006 at 6:17 pm

    Doesn't this district include a big chunk of Austin? Why does that not make it good for a demoxrat?

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