Hypocritical Politicians Push Marriage Amendment While Owing Their Lives To A Gay Hero - Comments Page 2

Mark Bingham, a gay man, was a hero on September 11, yet politicans in favor of the marriage amendment don't remember him.

While doing research for an article on professional athletes, I came across the name Mark Bingham. And while doing research on 9/11 Flight 93 I came across the name Mark Bingham. And while doing research on an article on John McCain, I came across the name Mark Bingham.…
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  • 26 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 8:52 am

    Forget being opposed Chantal, firs you have to find one that coherent!

  • 27 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 8:57 am

    Dear Mark Bingham, I'm honestly beginning to think I made a mistake with this article's rewrite. It was originally the first section of my article on gay professional athletes and it was suggested that I break it away so that your important story didn't distract from the other.

    It was meant as a tribute to your memory, and how disgusted I was with McCain for being such a hypocrite at your funeral, and then turning around and supporting the "marriage" bill.

    Sorry Mark
    Love
    Jet

  • 28 - chantal stone

    Jun 05, 2006 at 9:00 am

    re. #26 good point Jet

  • 29 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 11:09 am

    Chantal, Maybe ArchBingBat is mad because I didn't have as many pictures for him to look at as in the one on gay athletes?

  • 30 - Bernie

    Jun 05, 2006 at 2:23 pm

    Re: Clavos #20

    Ignorance isn't necessarily evil. It's exhausting, but not evil.

  • 31 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 2:38 pm

    Unfortunately Bernie, I get easily frustrated with the most ignorant of them.

  • 32 - Silas Kain

    Jun 05, 2006 at 3:10 pm

    Well, that settles it. Time to get out a vote against gay marriage is a vote against an American hero: Mark Bingham. Any Republican member of Congress who votes FOR the ban on Gay Marriage should be branded as anti American. And, when entering the polls this fall one should remember Mark Bingham when exercising that right. The ultras on both sides of the aisle are the enemy.

  • 33 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Jun 05, 2006 at 3:56 pm

    I have to keep reminding myself that Republicans do have this habit of wrapping themselves in the American flag... Silas did say he was a Reagan Republican, you know. Nothing but the red white and blue will do for good old Silas.

    Not bad, not bad at all.

  • 34 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 4:09 pm

    NOW I'M PISSED ha ha-How is it that when I use color or a special font, the comments editor goes beserk??????

    Silas must be teacher's pet or something!

    Ohhhhhh I see-he's a republican-well that explains everything!

    Thanks Silas and Ruvy for contributing

    Stay tuned, I have a big article being looked at right now about gay rights that'll rock a few boats.

    I put my heart and soul into it too.
    Jet

  • 35 - chantal stone

    Jun 05, 2006 at 4:10 pm

    you gotta admit though, it would make for a great bumper sticker.

  • 36 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 4:16 pm

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • 37 - Clavos

    Jun 05, 2006 at 6:11 pm

    Bernie #30:

    You're right, ignorance isn't necessarily evil, mostly it's just, well, ignorant. But that's not what I said; I said that an awful lot of people in the world are evil--to which I would add that in fact, many of the most evil are brilliant, not ignorant.

  • 38 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 7:00 pm

    Good point Clavos

  • 39 - Arch Conservative

    Jun 05, 2006 at 7:13 pm

    What a bunch of fucking losers BC has become.

  • 40 - zingzing

    Jun 05, 2006 at 7:21 pm

    you're the fucking loser bing. i can't believe that 50 years from now, people with your type of ideas will exist anymore. you're a dying breed, and that's the most wonderful thought i've had all day.

  • 41 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 7:25 pm

    Zing wait till he sees my just-published article!

  • 42 - zingzing

    Jun 05, 2006 at 7:30 pm

    i hope he dies laughing.

  • 43 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 7:41 pm

    According to all the news sources the whole marriage thing's a joke that'll never make it out of the congress for Bush's signature, and even if it did a majority of states would never radify it.

    As for ArchBingBat, but we'd miss him?.... wouldn't we?

    Solus mei sententia
    Jet

  • 44 - zingzing

    Jun 05, 2006 at 7:46 pm

    he's entertaining. keeps me awake sometimes. that doesn't mean i never wish horrible curses upon him, like, i dunno, slipping in shit and breaking his nose on the pavement (which is under a puddle of piss that tastes of digested asparagus). but that's only sometimes.

  • 45 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 8:09 pm

    No, I better not, this is too easy...Thanks for the smile Zing-go over and check my new article and tell me what you think.

  • 46 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 05, 2006 at 9:52 pm

    Hypocrite Bush is now trotting out con artist "ex-Gays" to support his Marraige initiative.

    In a release from U.S.Newswire comes this...

    Truth Wins Out will launch Wednesday at the National Press Club with dramatic personal stories from victims of "ex-gay" programs, and insights into how ex-gay theories are woven into the debate over gay marriage. The press conference will also expose the new Right-wing strategy to force "ex-gay" theories into classrooms.

    President George W. Bush invited an "ex-gay" leader whose organization operates a questionable youth bootcamp, and equates gays with Satan, to his White House press conference in support of a Constitutional Amendment to ban gay marriage.

    Alan Chambers, president of Exodus International, the nation's largest so-called "ex-gay" advocacy group, joined President Bush, conservative religious organizations and members of Congress at the White House today.

    "It is unconscionable that President Bush would embrace a group that claims to 'pray away the gay'," said Wayne Besen, founder of Truth Wins Out, an organization that will combat "ex- gay" efforts. Does President Bush endorse youth bootcamps where underwear is confiscated to 'cure' people who are gay or lesbian?" asked Besen.

    "They took away my Calvin Klein underwear," said Wade Richards, who attended Exodus International's "Love in Action" retreat. Richards said camp counselors believed there "seemed to be more of a sex appeal (issue) for men to wear Calvin Klein that it would if they wore Fruit of the Loom."

    Exodus' "Love In Action" has also offered training for women to apply lipstick and seminars on touch football for men.

    Additionally, Exodus' website promotes books by Andrew Cominskey which claim that "Satan delights in homosexual perversion" and that same-sex attraction's "source is demonic."

    An 18-year old who was forced into Exodus' bootcamp will appear this Wednesday

  • 47 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 06, 2006 at 1:31 am

    Wouldn't it scare the hell out of people if I wrote an article on Thurs praising Jesus for giving me my sight back and declaring I'd joined the 700 club?

  • 48 - Christopher Rose

    Jun 06, 2006 at 4:59 am

    Sorry folks, coloured fonts are currently without Blogcritics protocol.

  • 49 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 06, 2006 at 7:17 am

    AHA! I KNEW Rosie was prejudiced against colored fonts! {:^p~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  • 50 - Christopher Rose

    Jun 06, 2006 at 7:28 am

    Not me, dearie, it's the big three that make policy.

  • 51 - Arch Conservative

    Jun 06, 2006 at 7:38 am

    UMm yeah well people with my ideas seem to be winning all the elections lately don't they zing?

  • 52 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 06, 2006 at 7:42 am

    Ahh isn't that cute? It only took ArchBingBat 12 hours to think of a comeback Zing!!!!!!!!!!

  • 53 - Silas Kain

    Jun 06, 2006 at 8:25 am

    "Not me, dearie, it's the big three that make policy.

    The Father, Son and Holy Ghost?

    Oops. Wrong Forum. I should be at www.thegophasgonetohellinahandbasket.com.

  • 54 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 06, 2006 at 9:34 am

    There's a difference between voting for ideas, and loading church busses full of preprogrammed mindless born-again voters to the polls.

    Then there's the reprogramable Diebold voting machines in Florida and Ohio that don't leave paper trails, not to mention both state's attorney generals in charge of elections being in charge of the Bush campaigns just by coincodence?

  • 55 - Silas Kain

    Jun 06, 2006 at 9:56 am

    "UMm yeah well people with my ideas seem to be winning all the elections lately don't they zing?"

    They're not winning; rather, they're buying and intimidating voters. The extremists on both sides deomonize, demoralize and criticize. They have no clear cut answers to problems facing society as they would have us believe and use every dirty, nasty, dishonest trick in the book to achieve their goals.

    For a society that claims to be so free and filled with promise, we Americans are the most sexually repressed, emotionally deficient and physically unfit people on the planet. Did we not learn anything from the tragedies of September 11, 2001? Are we so shallow a people that we've forgotten the blessings we have by virtue of being American? Has anyone (including you backwoods conservatives) realized yet that the words of James Earl Carter in his malaise speech are resounding even today?

    In a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities, and our faith in God, too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns. But we've discovered that owning things and consuming things does not satisfy our longing for meaning. We've learned that piling up material goods cannot fill the emptiness of lives which have no confidence or purpose.

    The symptoms of this crisis of the American spirit are all around us. For the first time in the history of our country a majority of our people believe that the next five years will be worse than the past five years. Two-thirds of our people do not even vote. The productivity of American workers is actually dropping, and the willingness of Americans to save for the future has fallen below that of all other people in the Western world.


    What is it going to take to get us as a society to wake up and smell the stench that emanates from every shadow and office within the Beltway? Quality people refuse to seek public office because of the meanness of American politics. We've allowed it to happen. We've givien license to the freakish ultraists on both sides of the aisle. The art of compromise is dead. The institution known as the Senate has become nothing more than a geriatric sanctuary for pompous old men who should be converted to Soylent Green.

  • 56 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 06, 2006 at 10:03 am

    Well I sure's hell can't add to that, nice piece of work there Silas!

  • 57 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 06, 2006 at 10:28 am

    ArchBingBat#57 WHEN WILL YOU EVER LEARN HOW TO SPELL THE WORD "THEIR"???????

  • 58 - zingzing

    Jun 06, 2006 at 1:16 pm

    bing: what elections? bush? what do you speak of?

  • 59 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 06, 2006 at 3:06 pm

    Zing leave the poor man alone-both elections were completely fair, just ask President Gore!

  • 60 - A.L. Harper

    Jun 07, 2006 at 7:47 am

    I don't understand why anyone in America would want to legislate morality. Isn't that what we are fighting against in the Taliban and Al Qaeda? Once you start making moral laws you then have to decide who's morals you go by. Isn't this a very slippery slope above a deep crevice? And the last time we combined church and state people got burned at the stake.

  • 61 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 07, 2006 at 8:49 am

    Dear A.L. When people lie them feel powerless in their lives, it comforts them to feel the power of being able to judge others by imposing their "morals" on others.

    Soon will have Taliban Christians arresting people for having too short shorts, or not carrying the Bible around with them at all times.

    My question is what will they do when the run out of people to save or judge?

  • 62 - A.L. Harper

    Jun 07, 2006 at 9:16 am

    Maybe they will start burning each other at the stake.

  • 63 - Silas Kain

    Jun 07, 2006 at 9:47 am

    I've got a great recipe for BBQ sauce if one needs it.

    "I don't understand why anyone in America would want to legislate morality."

    It's our Puritanical way of life. Deep down we know that our society is built on the foundation of the seven deadly sins. So, out of some misguided guilt, we've taken up so many a cause in the name of morality. We really should be spanked.

  • 64 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 08, 2006 at 10:31 am

    A.L. 62, looks like they did that yesterday. They made fools out of themselves, and they may have pulled the wool over the ignorant born-agains eyes, but in the eyes of the general public I think they did more harm to themselves than good.

    Bush is making a fool of himself by crowing avout the death of arzacowee (sic) The President of the United States could crow about a military success, but not about the death of a man, he's only going to infuriate the terrorists even more like he did when he declared "bring it on!"

    Mark my words, his dumbass bragging is going to earn us an attack and like jerks we'll all rally around him again.

  • 65 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 08, 2006 at 10:32 am

    Silas 63 More people have suffered and been murdered in the name of God than from any other means.

  • 66 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 08, 2006 at 10:51 am

    Did you notice how many Republicans voted against the bill? I cheered!

  • 67 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 09, 2006 at 3:08 am

    Bush needs to stop smirking on camera before he gets us into a war-one guy was killed, get bin Laden and I'll be impressed with the military not Bush.

    The man's acting like he pulled the trigger on the plane by remote control or something!

  • 68 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 10, 2006 at 12:29 am

    Saturday June 10th is the third anniversary of legalized Gay marraige in Canada! No wonder we have so many illegal immigrants from there!

  • 69 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 17, 2006 at 3:14 pm

    From SwissInfo.com

    June 17, 2006 - 10:46 AM
    Church agrees to bless gay partnerships
    A Swiss offshoot of the Roman Catholic Church is to become the country's first officially recognized church to bless same-sex couples on a nationwide basis.
    The move has been welcomed by the gay rights group, Pink Cross, but the Roman Catholic Bishops Conference is questioning whether it is merely a publicity stunt to attract new members.

    The Old Catholic Church, which parted ways with Rome in 1870, voted at its national synod to offer gay congregation members the possibility of a church blessing. In June last year Swiss voters approved a new law allowing gay couples to register their partnerships.

    "It's a blessing for couples " not only homosexual or lesbian " but for all sorts of relationships, for instance older people who don't want to marry again," Maja Weyermann, spokeswoman for the 14,000-strong Old Catholics, told swissinfo.

    The decision to bless same-sex couples follows a report by the Old Catholic Church's commission on "Homosexuality and the Church". In it, the commission makes it clear that gays should have the same rights within the church and that the church should respond to their needs.

    "The traditional view of many churches is that homosexuality is something that does not exist within the Church. Homosexual behaviour is still condemned by many churches around the world," said Weyermann.

    "We see homosexuality as something that exists in nature and human beings, and we must accept it as given by God."

    Old Catholics stress that the blessing for same-sex couples will be distinct from the traditional marriage sacrament. Even so, they are expecting a rough ride from other churches in Switzerland.

    "I don't think we will be isolated but there will be some distance between us and other churches for a time," said Weyermann.

    According to Weyermann, Old Catholics faced opposition from other churches when they decided to ordain women priests back in 2000.

    Jean-Paul Guisan, spokesman for Pink Cross, welcomed the fact that "a descendant of the Catholic Church" had adopted a positive view of gay relationships.

    "It is very encouraging, although it is only a very small church," said Guisan, who is also the founder of a gay Christian group in Geneva. "But it is interesting to see that in Switzerland there are churches that are prepared to recognise gay partnerships."

    He pointed out that many churches continued to treat gays as second-class citizens, even though he said there was no distinction in the eyes of God.

    Mario Galgano, spokesman for the Swiss Bishops Conference, made it clear that there were "big differences" between Roman Catholics and Old Catholics, and questioned what really lay behind the decision to offer blessings to gay couples.

    "I think they have done this because in our society " even among Catholics " people are more tolerant towards homosexuals," said Galgano. "I hope that they have not done it simply to make publicity for their church. If this is the case, I don't think they will have much success."

    The Old Catholic Church denied that the move was designed to boost its profile.

    swissinfo, Adam Beaumont

  • 70 - Jet in Columbus

    Jun 22, 2006 at 8:40 pm

    Gay couples make up one in five registrar ceremonies!
    GAY civic partnerships made up more than one in five "wedding" ceremonies at registrars' offices in Glasgow and Edinburgh in the first three months of the year.

    And almost 350 gay couples have "wed" in Scotland since the new legislation was introduced in December, figures showed yesterday.

    The Highlands also had a high proportion of civil partnership ceremonies, thanks to gay couples travelling to romantic and scenic destinations.

    In Edinburgh, there were 76 civil partnerships and 338 marriages. In Glasgow, there were 59 civil partnerships and 312 marriages. In the Highlands, there were 14 civil partnerships and 202 marriages.

    Meanwhile, the total number of marriages in the first quarter of the year was down by 9 per cent to 3,493.

    Equality groups welcomed the figures as proof of a more accepting society.

    Duncan Macniven, the Registrar General, said: "Local registrars have been exemplary in introducing this new legislation, helping same-sex partners to have a relaxed and happy experience on their important day."

    In the first quarter, there were 13,568 births, up 212 compared with the same period last year.

    This article:

    Last updated: 23-Jun-06 01:00 BST

  • 71 - Jet

    Sep 03, 2008 at 1:57 am

    Here's how hypocritical McCain is, posing with this hero... until he found out he was gay...

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