The Clintons dropping hints about a 'dream ticket' with Barack Obama. Here's why that strategy is putting Obama in a tough spot.
In a recent campaign event Bill Clinton told reporters that Hillary was 'very open to the idea' of Barack Obama as her running mate. This followed Hillary's statements to the news media that a joint ticket "may be where this is headed".…
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26 - Krutic A
Well I don't know about that. He is spending time talking about her offer and that's one of her goals. His message has gotten lost. She is bringing him down from his pedestal and now both campaigns are going negative. No one talks about Obama's inspirational speeches or message of change or whatever.
Its become about whose surrogate will resign this week for something he/she said about the other candidate. In the trenches, Clintons are going to destroy Obama and he is very close to getting where they want him.
27 - Clavos
He needs to be careful, I agree, because they are sneaky, Machiavellian, sleazes who will stoop as low as need be to try to bring him down, but he's no dummy and he has good advisers.
I don't think he's down, not by a long shot
28 - Clavos
Here's an interesting take from Real Clear Politics on Obama's strengths as a general election candidate.
It comes from, interestingly, a Republican; "Alex Castellanos, who was a senior media consultant in both of George W. Bush's campaigns and in Mitt Romney's failed bid for the nomination:"
""Obama is the hope and future of the Democratic Party, not Hillary, and everyone knows it. He is the one bringing new energy and voters. He could be a Democratic Reagan, invigorating the party for 25 years. If the Clinton people knee-cap Obama, it would be like killing Santa Claus Xmas morning in front of the children. The children won't forget or forgive."
Pretty good analysis, IMO.
29 - Krutic A
Gotta disagree there Clavos. Reagan's platform was that America is a great country. That everything is right with it. He was optimistic about America the country.
Obama's platform is America has lost its way. That things need to be fixed. Everything is wrong with America currently and he is the only one who can fix it. His optimism (and his campaign) is about himself - not the country.
30 - Wiky
But Obama did not agree with Hillary's appeal. Even Geraldine Ferraro, noted feminist and Clinton supporter, ignited a fire storm to Obama. I think Ferraro just hit a lot closer to the truth than many Obama supporters would acknowledge when she said. I am sure that Ferraro is a true feminist, one of her books 'Changing History Women, Power, and Politics' tells this point, so I think Hillary just wants to unite the Democratic Party. This is a wise way. Otherwise, McCain would have a big chance.
31 - Baronius
Clavos, a good number of the people who won't ever forgive or forget will be blacks. If Hillary sneaks onto the top of the ticket, what's to stop a black insurrection against the Dems? "When is it our turn? We have supported your party all our lives, but I guess you expect us to stay in our place. VP is no better than the back of the bus." Imagine that third-party movement!
32 - bliffle
This may finally be the end for the Clintons as a political force. Maybe even Bill Clinton will have no unofficial job in the next administration such as he had under Bush. And after a failed run at the presidency will Hillary be content to merely be a US Senator from NY?
Certainly, the goodwill image that Bill Clinton received the last 7 years has been p*ssed away.
And their arrogant offer to Obama by insultingly giving a tentative offer of 2nd place to the 1st place leader, suggests that they don't consider his cultural background as important and vital as many other people of that same cultural background think it to be. Maybe many people of that cultural background, as well as others who are sympathetic to struggles for equality, would consider that to be patronizing in a way that they thought we'd left behind.
One can only suppose that Clinton Inc. is offering Obama the VP job to fulfill the traditional campaign position of harassing and nagging the opposition ticket. Sort of a House Nagger.
33 - JustOneMan
Obama Spokesperson Launches New Messaging Camapaign to Unite Americans
Rev, Wright Obamas spiritual leader and mininster in his final sermon last month on his path to retirement kicked off Obama's new campaign tagline by stating..."Hillary ain't never been called a nigger!"
Obama rainbow coalistion of supporters are picking up the messaage and adding...
"Hillary ain't never been called a Chink!"
"Hillary ain't never been called a Yid!"
"Hillary ain't never been called a Dago!"
"Hillary ain't never been called a Fag...well maybe she has!"
JOM "Obama...Affirmative Action in Action"
34 - Anon
Obama's biggest liability is his pastor. That guy is a black panter as far as I'm concerned. Their church website has the word 'black' or 'african' more than it has 'Jesus' or 'God'. It is scary.
I'd love to see him and Obama's wife give a speech together..we can say goodbye to Obama the minute that happens! :)
35 - Dr Dreadful
That guy is a black panter as far as I'm concerned.
What's a 'black panter'? An African-American who's just run a marathon?
36 - Anon
Ha ha. you really should do stand up..I wouldnt laugh but you might find some like minded morons to laugh at you.
If you really are that dumb..I said he is a black Panther..one of those old timey black terrorist organizations.
37 - JustOneMan
oh... I thought he meant painter....I thought most painters werent black but Polish! at least in NJ!
38 - Dr Dreadful
If you're the same 'Anon' who's been commenting regularly here for the last few weeks you should know by now that typos like that one are mercilessly leapt upon and made fun of. I guess humor is wasted on some people.
JOM: we've got painters of all colors, shapes and sizes here in California. Landscapes seem to be popular, although a couple of guys actually painted the score to 'Amazing Grace' all the way up a 40-foot-high wall downtown. Fascinating what some people will do for attention.
39 - Anon
From Real Clear Politics:
Today, "Good Morning America" aired this Brian Ross report on Barack Obama's pastor, Jeremiah Wright. Wright has a history of making controversial comments on politics and race.
One excerpt from Wright: "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."
Check it out here
40 - Dr Dreadful
Yes. And?
41 - Anon
And it should be looked and talked about. Obama attended this Church for 20 years..he is close to the pastor.
I dont know about others, but I'd walk out of the church if my pastor made such comments. Obama seems to have no problems whatsoever with those comments. He only 'disagrees' with them and only when pushed.
42 - Dr Dreadful
My wife also sometimes makes outrageous comments, but that doesn't mean I'm going to walk out on her. It also doesn't mean I'm going to call her on them in front of other people. I'll discuss them with her in private.
Those comments, as emotion-laden as they were, also have a kernel of truth to them. I think Obama is honest enough to recognize that. But he's also politically savvy enough to realize that if he said so publicly, the circling wolves would pounce.
Even President Bush distances himself from many of the outpourings of such as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, much as he may privately agree with the sentiments.
43 - Clavos
"That guy is a black panter as far as I'm concerned."
But only while he's having sex...
44 - Anon
Obama's pastor is a terrorist..or at least does his best to sound like one.
His 'sermon' is prob the same as that of a radical imam somewhere in the middle east. This is the beginning of the downfall of B. Hussein Obama.
45 - Clavos
@ #44:
Why? Because he has a nutjob for a preacher?
Are all Catholics pedophiles?
A lot of their priests are...
46 - Baronius
Dread, where is the kernel of truth in those comments? Please be specific.