Hey, Ho, Shambo Won't Go! - Comments Page 2

The proposed slaughter of Shambo the Bull was a slight against Britain's Hindu community.

Fond of animals as I am, it's no surprise that I'd react with glee at the news that Shambo the Bull received a reprieve from slaughter by the National Assembly of Wales.…
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  • 26 - gonzo marx

    Jul 23, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    Mark..it's called a pun...look it up, i'll wait

    ya find it? now read the exchanges betwixt myself and Clavos...

    see them now? strewn all along the watchtower, as it were...

    as for the "terror threat", now you are being disingenuous as well as hyperbolic

    did i mention anything of the sort?

    have i ever stated there was no "threat"?

    go on, look it up...i'll wait, i know i have typed quite a lot around here

    but ya won't find it....ever

    rather than the bullshit "sky is falling" stuff you keep spewing, how about rational discussion of the Problem?

    it IS a problem, but i don't think some Hindu's animal has anything to do with criminals trying to blow shit up

    just thought you might like to know...
    and thanks for the needle info, if yer gonna make claims, substantiate them or prepare for Questions...

    Excelsior?

  • 27 - Gill Gardiner

    Jul 23, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    "Gill Gardiner - I think you may have misunderstood somewhere along the line!"


    What have I misunderstood?

  • 28 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 23, 2007 at 11:43 pm

    Can I please just have my Shamburgerâ„¢ now?

    Dave

  • 29 - Mark Edward Manning

    Jul 24, 2007 at 4:14 am

    Gonzo: "there IS help for those paranoid delusions."

    This certainly sounds to me like you don't take the threat I live with, as a resident of Britain, at the hands of this innocent (in your opinion) "minority population" seriously.

  • 30 - gonzo marx

    Jul 27, 2007 at 4:28 am

    just for Mark - Shambo is tartare...

    there's one Hindu cow that won't be any threat to you

    and that's the problem with your approach sometimes...this was a simple bit about Hindu traditions in Britain colliding with purely secular concerns

    what the fuck did it have to do with anybody blowing anything up?

    have i missed something? has there been a rash of Hindu terrorists in Britain blowing shit up?

    so yeah..the minority population of Hindu descent in Britain doesn't seem like any kind of "threat"

    now...do some other folks hold the possibility of criminal activity?

    hell yeah

    worry about them, and not some others whom you hold derision for, and unjustly lump them in with the criminals you should be wary of

    if morons stopped conflating things, and instead looked accurately at objective info to focus on actual problems rather than hysterics...it might just get a bit easier to stop the criminals

    just a Thought

    Excelsior?

  • 31 - STM

    Jul 27, 2007 at 4:52 am

    Yes, I must admit ... I had heard today that Shambo was no more and had been despatched to the bovine equivalent of Nirvana.

    At least the Hindus haven't been threatening to blow up the local council chambers, though. They just used the rights the Poms have always had, which is to stand in a line with arms linked (whilst shouting) to stop the health department getting through to Shambo.

    Loved the Mark Steyn piece by the way. He really does get it.

  • 32 - STM

    Jul 27, 2007 at 5:05 am

    And Gonzo, tell me when the day comes when local US administrations will allow Sharia "courts" to operate in their areas. I'll look forward to that.

    I can understand up to a point what the Poms are doing (no doubt some local, young muslim lawbreakers will be referred to these institutions by the British courts, much like in Australia where Aboriginal tribal councils can bestow traditional punishment on aborigines for a whole range of criminal actions). But, still ... in the UK (and here) it's all getting a tad out of hand.

    Although I don't agree with Mark's politics, I nevertheless remain firmly of the view that if you want to move to another country because it offers more than where you've come from, and you want to be a part of what's already there and what's taken a thousand years or more to evolve - then come in droves and be protected by the rule of law and against such things as overt and covert discrimination (and these protections are now considerable and the law includes the right to hold an opinion that may not be shared by all).

    However, the other side of that is, if you don't want what's on offer, and you want to change things according to your own warped world view, and are perhaps on supporting or encouraging criminal actions, then either bugger off or don't come in the first place.

    Simple, really.

  • 33 - gonzo marx

    Jul 27, 2007 at 6:39 am

    Stan, i'm right there with you, and agree with both the literal and sentiment behind what ya typed

    like i've said many times, i may despise what some say/think/espouse...but i'll defend to the End their right to do so

    this would apply both to Mark in this Article(and others)as well as those who speak against him...and the Hindus sticking up for their cow

    i tend to draw the line when it hits criminal activity beyond civil disobedience..but again, accept Responsibility for your actions and you can protest as you see fit...hurt other people, and you are fucked and deserve punishment to the fullest extent of the Law

    Excelsior?

  • 34 - troll

    Jul 27, 2007 at 8:26 am

    'hurt other people' is a gray area...but I agree that monkey wrenchers need to be prepared for the consequences (personal and public) of their actions

  • 35 - Arun

    Jul 27, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    I can already see the repurcussions, today it was a bull. Lets say for example that dogs are infested with a certain strain of virus that is contagious and fatal to human beings, will that mean extermination of all infested dogs?
    Killing is never the solution.

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