Happy Ecoterrorist Day! - Page 4

The Center for Consumer Freedom also has a lot of good information on ecoterrorism with excellent links and hard data on their activities.

And don't forget Activist Cash, which tracks where the money that funds ecoterrorism and other 'fringe' activism comes from so you can strike back at their wallets. Surprisingly a large amount of the money they use comes from government grants from agencies like the EPA which is targeted for beneficial projects but ends up in the hands of terrorists.

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Dave Nalle has been a magazine editor, freelance writer, capitol hill staffer, game designer and taught college history for many years. He is now a pro-liberty political activist and designs fonts for a living. …

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  • 1 - MDE

    Apr 24, 2005 at 6:47 am

    Dave - Excellent Sunday morning read(s). Great sourcing. Stepping into territory where 'the ends justify the means' opens any movement (including the neocons - the 'terrorists' currently in power) to common sense criticism.

    Are there up-to-date estimates of numbers in these groups?

    Mark

  • 2 - MDE

    Apr 24, 2005 at 7:14 am

    One critique of style:

    I suggest that you replace:
    "By most expert estimates it's only a matter of time ..."etc - an unsubstantiated statement, leading the argumentative reader to think about those experts who estimate otherwise rather than the thrust of your article,

    with:
    "Experts estimates that it's only a matter of time ..."etc - a substantiated statement.

    Mark

  • 3 - MDE

    Apr 24, 2005 at 7:21 am

    Sorry about the extra 's' above. Mark

  • 4 - Aaman

    Apr 24, 2005 at 7:30 am

    Earth Day was 'celebrated' by a leading erotica site - literotica.com had an interesting contest for Earth Day.

    Sex as an answer to violence - hmmm.

  • 5 - LJP

    Apr 24, 2005 at 8:59 am

    This retard a memebr of ProtestWarrior? Go play with your stupid Star Wars toys, geek!

  • 6 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 24, 2005 at 11:19 am

    LOL Aaman. I actually miss EarthDay a lot. That sort of positive pursuit of environmental goals seems so nice in comparison to the evil of groups like the ELF.

    LJP - What's ProtestWarrior?

    Dave

  • 7 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 24, 2005 at 11:26 am

    Never mind, LJP, I found their website. Sure, consider me a member if you like. They appear to be a group with a sense of humor which organizes counter-protests against socialist groups. I've got no problem with them expressing free speech on a rational subject like that.

    Oh, and they have a fantastic poster I'm positively in love with. Check out this sign - best commentary on school vouchers I've seen yet.

    And BTW, from what I can tell they aren't Republican ideologues, just anti-socialists. At least a couple of their signs and bumper stickers poke fun at Republicans as well as democrats.

    You, of course, being a humorless leftist, probably hate and fear them.

    Dave

  • 8 - Temple Stark

    Apr 24, 2005 at 1:03 pm

    Sensationalist headlines suck.

  • 9 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 24, 2005 at 4:09 pm

    Hell no, Temp. This isn't your mainstream media, this is blogland - sensationalist headlines kick ass. And I'm a big fan of the Weekly World News too.

    Dave

  • 10 - Victor Plenty

    Apr 24, 2005 at 5:10 pm

    ECOTERRORISTS FREE BAT BOY FROM SECRET ARMY LAB!

    Like that, Dave?

  • 11 - SFC SKI

    Apr 24, 2005 at 5:24 pm

    He knows too much, and must be silenced.

  • 12 - HW Saxton

    Apr 24, 2005 at 5:32 pm

    The fact that Peter Bagge does a weekly
    comic strip of "Batboy" in the W.W.News
    will keep me as a regular reader. It is
    a pretty entertaining mag when the brain
    just craves junk food.

  • 13 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 24, 2005 at 7:57 pm

    Exactly, Victor. If only we could get the ALF to focus on helping out Bigfoot and Batboy we'd be much better off.

    Dave

  • 14 - RJ

    Apr 24, 2005 at 11:18 pm

    I have certain sympathies with the pro-animal and pro-environment movements. I love nature too, and am disgusted with the rampant pollution and/or destruction of our lakes, rivers, and oceans.

    HOWEVER, these fringe lunatics need to be punished severely for their violent criminal activities. If you love animals and nature, why would you harm a fellow human being? We are just another species of animal, after all, and are therefore a part of nature...

  • 15 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 25, 2005 at 12:00 am

    To quote Orwell - "four legs good, two legs bad".

    That's about the size of it.

    Dave

  • 16 - jadester

    Apr 25, 2005 at 8:27 am

    indeed. Those ecoterrorists who genuinely believe in their cause (i.e. who aren't in it for other reasons) must be too stupid to realise it's exactly that kind of extremism that puts their cause ata disadvantage.
    And they risk getting all of us who care about the environment a bad name.

  • 17 - Maurice

    Apr 25, 2005 at 9:00 am


    jadester - you are right on the money. When people claim there is a 'hole' in the ozone layer over antartica they make other (valid) claims about the environment have less validity.

    We should be concerned about the enviornment but we should deal in facts, not exagerations.

  • 18 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 25, 2005 at 9:46 am

    Hell, even I care about the environment - I like air and water as much as the next fellow. In fact, one of the biggest groups concerned about the environment is hunters, because if there's no wildlife left there's nothing for them to kill.

    What the econazis don't get is that the environment is meaningless without humans here to appreciate and use it. When you go off the deep end into the mentality that lab rats and humans have the same civil rights you're no longer someone anyone can have a rational discussion with. Maybe that's why they turn to terrorism - no one sane would listen to them when they tried talking about their beliefs.

    Dave

  • 19 - JR

    Apr 25, 2005 at 10:24 am

    Dave Nalle: What the econazis don't get is that the environment is meaningless without humans here to appreciate and use it.

    Actually, just you. When you die, the rest of us and the universe will suddenly become superfluous and flash out of existence.

  • 20 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 25, 2005 at 10:31 am

    Is that J.R. or perhaps J.P. as in J. P. Sartre?

    dave

  • 21 - SFC SKI

    Apr 25, 2005 at 12:16 pm

    Does that mean we all live inside Dave's predatory electric head or is Dave the incarnation of Brahmin, and we inhabit his dream?

  • 22 - Big Time Patriot

    Apr 25, 2005 at 2:50 pm

    Well, I don't like terrorists of any kind, even the ones the administration supports (The Bush Family's Favorite Terrorist http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/042405.html ).

    But comparing Earth Day to support of Ecoterrorism is like comparing Valentines day to the support of wife battering, or comparing Christmas to supporting David Koresh...

    The fact that terrorists support something does not make that thing inherently bad, does it? When the contras were blasting people away in the name of anti-communism, did that make anti-communism bad?

    I don't mind your main point about the eco-terrorists, but I bet there are still some people out there planting trees and cleaning up parks this Earth Day (I know there were some locally) and it doesn't help your point to lump those doing some good with those doing evil. Even if they use the same justification it doesn't make them the same.

    A person sending money for third world vaccinations and someone murdering an abortion doctor will both claim to be "pro-life" but I wouldn't blame them for each others actions.

    I was really pissed when some eco-terrorist burned down a building at our local university several years ago, including burning collections of plants and research meant to help PRESERVE the eco-system.

  • 23 - Jon Sobel

    Apr 25, 2005 at 3:16 pm

    T. C. Boyle wrote an interesting fictional treatment of Earth First in his novel A Friend of the Earth - anybody else read it?

  • 24 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 25, 2005 at 5:46 pm

    BTP, where in the article did I compare Earth Day to terrorism? I just used Earth Day as a contextual starting point for the essay on ecoterror. As is clear from the article I'm all for Earth Day. I like the idea of positive support of the environment. I used to run a disc golf tournament that raised money for earth day charities, in fact. Want to buy a T-Shirt form it? I still have a few.

    Dave

  • 25 - Temple Stark

    Apr 25, 2005 at 6:00 pm

    SEE comment 8 oh obtuse one

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