Representative Joe Wilson and his childish antics prompt the question: why is he acting like a four-year-old?
If I were a fly on the wall in any house in the country I am sure that I would hear, at least once a day, a kid be told to "grow up" or "act your age." I know that when I was younger my mom would tell me that I was "acting like a five-year-old" or "acting like a baby." This is a type of scolding that people are supposed to grow out of, kind of like how you are supposed to grow out of diapers or out of training wheels. It is a change in a person that is expected, or our society will look down upon you.…
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76 - Zedd
El B,
Whatev....
Make a halfway lucid argument sometimes will ya. Spewing and whining all over the web... blek.
On the topic from a year ago, you never understood what I was saying and looks like you don't have the capability to.
As to this tete-a-tete I really wasn't expecting anything from you. Alas, it just had to be said.
Anywho....
77 - Cindy
Zedd,
I think perhaps you've left off the possibility that things may not be a matter of being so cut and dried and clear.
78 - zingzing
zedd: "WRONG. I believe we are impacted by every experience."
in some sort of manner, sure. but if arthur here is a raging drug addict in a few years, it's not my fault. or even close.
"Pops, I mean zing, you pretty much responded to every point that I made and made amends in an offhand sort of way. Your forgiven."
good?
"I am right & you were wrong. Na-na-na boo boo! No take backs."
well, glad you dropped the momitude.
79 - Clavos
Glad I don't have any children...
80 - Cindy
looking around BC tonight, i am glad i don't have any adults. lol
81 - Zedd
Cindy,
I think perhaps you've left off the possibility that things may not be a matter of being so cut and dried and clear.
What that El-B is really a genius beneath that thick layer of tantrums and hissy fits?? That he'd give Rousseau, Socrates and Durkheim all a run for their money??
Cindy all jokes aside, that is what I am always saying. It rarely is ever so cut and dried. We've so gotten used to simple ideas about who we are that it's difficult to imagine that we are a lot simpler and a lot more complex and both states are not necessarily paradoxical. Because of our romanticising history and historical figures we are quick to look for hard and fast rules, totally ignoring that we as humans right now know ourselves and our own personal complexities. We believe that the myths of how we arrived to where we are should dictate how we make decisions about the future.
I am simply a proponent of us thinking things through and trusting that we have the capability today to figure things out. That there were no good old days and that the giants of old exist today. So with any social conundrum, we should employ logic to hammer it out instead of falling back on cliches and distorted ideas about what is means to be human.
So many really simple ideas have been made complicated by the overuse of platitudes or faddish ideas of the time. So many complex ideas have been dulled by the same. I'm just for thinking things through and using collaborative methods to reach a meaningful conclusion . I am a big fan of the socratic method not necessarily for instructional purposes only but for discovery, even though I think Socrates was a bully (or show off) and cheated sometimes.
82 - Cindy
Zedd,
You sound just like a philosopher. I'm having a hard time following.
83 - Cindy
Well I guess I follow a little. But philosophy is about the last thing I can think of, as I just O.D.ed on it.
Is philosophy a drug? :-)
I'll try again tomorrow.
84 - Zedd
Cindy,
Did you say the "d" word! Slowly I turn (cackle, cackle), inch by inch... :o)
You are having difficulty following because I am a horribly lazy writer.
I will try again, perhaps tomorrow.
85 - zingzing
"Slowly I turn (cackle, cackle), inch by inch... :o)"
god, i love that skit. (the i love lucy version is awesome.)
86 - Clavos
I'm just for thinking things through and using collaborative methods to reach a meaningful conclusion.
Why meaningful? Sometimes, a cigar is...
just a cigar.
87 - Clavos
wow, zing, your "slowly I turn" bit comes up hits #s 3 and 4 on Google (and I do mean yours, there are numerous others as well.
88 - zingzing
i do like the lou costello version as well. wonderfully violent. but lucy's is the first i saw. and i love lucy is the greatest sitcom ever. god, i love that show. so random at times.
89 - Silas Kain
Unless it's from Cuba. Then it's illegal.
90 - Ruvy
Ruvy, your representation is absolutely false.
There's nothing false about my representation. It rings as true as silver dollar. If you really want to go into that argument again, I'll reproduce the comments. Copy/paste is not that hard....
I find your "Say 'No' to Drugs" view naive and idiotic considering you would have no problem obliterating the young man if he lived in the wrong county.
I think you meant to type "wrong country" but considering your small-minded comments, I cannot be sure. I live by what I say. I didn't and don't use recreational drugs, and have managed to teach my sons not to as well.
And I guess you do need to have your nose rubbed in what a dhimmi you are, and what a dhimmi mentality you have, so I will reproduce my comment to you from SJ Reidhead's article - one you never answered.
But first a final point. I do what I can to fight terror. That is why I am a police volunteer, and why I go on patrol regularly to protect the village I live in from terrorists. You're the blowhard with the internet connection.
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El Bicho,
The 11th of September is my birthday. Even if you forget it, I never will. On my fiftieth birthday, I went to downtown Jerusalem with my wife to celebrate - we weren't exactly sure how, but we left the boys to explore the Absorption Center where we lived in East Talpiot. We had arrived in the country one week earlier, and downtown Jerusalem was still filled with wonder for me. It took a while to get off the high of making aliyah. We went to a money changer to change some dollars into shekels.
The money changer asked if we were Americans. I nodded. In his broken English, he tried to get across something about a plane and a building - finally hitting upon the Hebrew word for 'twins'- t'umím|. I finally understood what he was saying - that a jet had hit the Twin Towers in New York - and I told him he was crazy.
We took our money and went up ben-Yehuda Street, looking for a place to celebrate, and saw a pizza shop with a huge poster of the New York skyline and a TV. We wandered in and before we ordered, I tried to explain in my awful Hebrew what the money changer had explained to us in his awful English. He smiled and picked up the remote and turned on CNN.
There it was, in living color. It was morning in New York, and only one jet had hit one of the towers. I couldn't beleive what I saw. After eight years, I still cannnot believe what I saw. I could not believe that I was in J-lem, where so many terror attacks had taken place, and I was watching a terror attack on Manhattan on the TV. Another jet hit the other tower. After some time, one of the towers just collapsed, and then the other one collapsed.
A crowd had gathered in the pizza shop, watching the ongoing horror in New York. When I still lived in Brooklyn, I had worked in a freight forwarding company just across the street from these buildings, and after typing import documents, I would deliver many of them to the World Trade Center; the Arab Chamber of Commerce, to certify that the goods talked about were not from Israel; Zim Lines, where lots of imports from Israel came; Atlantic Container Lines, where teenagers would stamp my bills of ladings and dock receipts.
I didn't like the Trade Center - architecturally, it was an ugly symbol of "modernity" - glass and concrete that swayed in the wind on the top floors. The place had no class. If someone were to knock it down WHEN IT WERE EMPTY that would have been fine with me. But what I saw wasn't fine with me.
YOUR ENEMIES - MY ENEMIES - had just knocked down the biggest building in New York - where I was born - and Arabs in Gaza were cheering.
Thousands died that day in lower Manhattan from that terrorist attack. But your government never went after Saudi Arabia, holding them responsible for the terror - as they should have been held responsible.
No.
For eight years your damned government has been going after US IN ISRAEL as if the terror the Arabs influenced by the Wahhabi scum in Riyadh were all OUR fault. Instead of nuking Riyadh, like your government ought to have, your government exposes us to nuclear attack and acts as if we are the evil ones here; the ones who tortured and drove Christians out of Bethlehem; as if we were the ones who provoked a murderous civil war in Lebanon where thousands have died; as if we trashed the church in Bethlehem. Your government trains Arabs to kill Jews, and threatens to unleash them upon us if we do not comply with your government's demands. It has unleashed them, in fact. One such American trained Arab killed Rabbi Binyamin Kahane and his wife as they were driving only a few miles from where I type this right now. YOUR SECRETARY OF STATE BACKS ALL THIS CRAP, THIS HYPOCRITICAL BULLSHIT! She has made herself into an enemy of my people. So, I feel bad if some terrorist does not manage kill the bitch. I wish some terrorist had killed Rice as well, for the same reason!
I WANT MY ENEMIES - AND YOUR ENEMIES - TO DIE!! SO SHOULD YOU!!
...a sensible person would think that on the anniversary of 9/11, when for a few minutes at least, a great majority of the world seemed to unite over the senseless killing of a few thousand innocent people and decided death with those we disagree should not be the answer, you could for one day, especially this day, keep your homicidal desires to yourself.
Now maybe 9/11 meant nothing at all to you. It's not mandatory it should. You may even find good in it because it resulted in quite a few Arabs getting killed who won't bother you and your people.
I am sure you have a diatribe coming to inform us why Hillary deserves to die for whatever actions she (and what, possibly her husband?) undertook that have undermined Israel. But since you made clear it was no joke, you have shown your way of thinking is just like that of the 9/11 hijackers. You are part of the world's problem and not its solution.
Don't you wave your hypocritical moralizing bullshit at me! You haven't learned a damned thing from the deaths of all those FELLOW AMERICANS killed by Wahhabi terrorists 8 years ago.
You deserve whatever hell befalls you - you do not even comprehend yet the enemy you face. You are still at war, and for you to think otherwise displays you for the total blind fool your are. Englishmen, attacked by Wahhabi terrorists act like cows. Spaniards, attacked by terrorists, act like cowards. Would you also act like a cowardly dhimmi? THE MURDER OF 3,000 AMERICANS ON 11 SEPTEMBER 2001 WAS NOT SENSELESS, YOU FOOL. IT WAS PURPOSEFUL, DESIGNED TO BREAK YOUR WILL TO FIGHT! THESE PEOPLE DIED IN VAIN ONLY IF YOU REFUSE TO DESTROY THE ENEMY THAT KILLED THEM AND THREATENS YOU! DON'T DESECRATE THEIR MEMORY!
91 - Ruvy
That (comment #89) was one hell of an interesting comment there, Silas.
92 - zingzing
ruvy: "I live by what I say."
god, i hope not.
"I didn't and don't use recreational drugs, and have managed to teach my sons not to as well."
so you think.
93 - Arthur Halliday
What if we just accept that our view's are gonna be different from those of other's based on experiences that we've had that other's haven't that? We are NOT hating on Israel (or at least I hope not) and that needs to be clear. Also, I think some people are overreacting to comments. Chill, it's just a blog. And I have no doubt that ruvy is clean and that he teaches his kids not to either. That is the real way to teach kids not to do drugs. We all laugh at the stupid programs they have in school, at the end of the day it is about the people you surround yourself with and the influence that your parents have on you combined with your sense of right and wrong.
94 - Ted
The reason Obama is so terrible is because he is the first president ever to have the hubris to say one thing while hiding his true intentions.
95 - Anadult
Obama is a liar. He is very glib and has a chip on his shoulder and so does his wife.
WISE UP!
96 - zingzing
ted: "The reason Obama is so terrible is because he is the first president ever to have the hubris to say one thing while hiding his true intentions."
yeah. ok. sure. just what are his true intentions then?
anadult: "Obama is a liar. He is very glib and has a chip on his shoulder and so does his wife. WISE UP!"
how did he lie?
97 - Anadult
He's been lying from the beginning of his presidency. Read the health bill. He says illegal aliens will not be covered in this bill. There is no provision stating this in that bill.
98 - zingzing
is there a provision stating that they will be?
99 - Dr Dreadful
Ted: The reason Obama is so terrible is because he is the first president ever to have the hubris to say one thing while hiding his true intentions.
Um, yeah, sure. And Scott Peterson was the first murderer ever to deny that he did it.
Twit.
100 - Dr Dreadful
Anadult (hmm): He says illegal aliens will not be covered in this bill. There is no provision stating this in that bill.
There's also no provision stating that we will all get a free Mustang. Does that mean we will, in fact, all be getting a free Mustang?
Oy, squishing intellectual pygmies just isn't as much fun as it used to be.
101 - zingzing
be realistic, doc! maybe a free pedicure, but a mustang? i demand that the no-mustang clause be written in toot sweet.
102 - Clavos
Mustang hell!
I won't settle for less than a Lamborghini.
103 - Dr Dreadful
Mustang hell!
Do they have to wear bridles?