GOPs in Congress Still Making Demands: Do They Know They Lost Election? - Comments Page 2

The GOP still thinks it has control of Congress... and they do as long as we foolishly let them think they do.

As recent legislative events will attest to, the Republicans in Congress aren't opposing President Barack Obama because there's a good reason for it, nor to protect or help our nation’s economy in any way. In my opinion, they're just nitpicking, verbally distracting, and trying to delay majority legislation because they’ve discovered that they still can.…
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  • 26 - Clavos

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Ah, if I make a relavant point, that makes me hysterical Clavos-because you say so.

    Your "point" was a total non sequitur, which is why I made the comment about hysterical.

    Oh, and it's bated breath, my friend.

  • 27 - Jet

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Or as I like to say Blif, you can only swallow so much baloney before you spit it back in their faces.

  • 28 - Jet

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Oh, well that negates my entire point Clavos, thank you saving me further embarrassment... friend

  • 29 - Arch Conservative

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    I didn't excuse anyone Arch, you're the one trying to convince us that Obama INTENTIONALLY nominated a tax cheat.


    NO I was making the point that if Bush had unintentionally nominated a tax cheat to head the treasury you would have been up in arms. Obama does it and it's no big deal.

    Oh and he nominated not 1 but three tax cheats to be in his cabinet Jet.

    You need to settle down though Jet........I'm sure there will be countless opportunities during the next four years for you to prove what a complete hypocrite you are where politics are concerned.

  • 30 - Jet

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Oh and your reasonable unbiased opinions are safe and secure too Arch?

    How many people do you think you're swaying with your idocy and fuzzy logic?

    Exactly who said is was no big deal? Even Obama himself said he screwed up-Something Bush would never admit, or you. Have you ever admitted you were wrong?

    Fortunately the political percentages on this website don't reflect the country as a whole.

  • 31 - Cobra

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Let's see...

    Obama nominating people who might have problems with their taxes...

    versus

    Bush appointing people who might be war criminals?

    John Negroponte

    Nope. Not a tough decision for me.

    --Cobra

  • 32 - C i n d y

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    RE #7

    Yay!

  • 33 - Jet

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Welcome Cobra, I hope you're as well versed at ducking bushit, they like to sling it against the walls here when it suits their purposes.

  • 34 - Jet

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    I think I'm beginning to understand why there's no "middle of the road" politicos any more. What with the far-far right slinging mud at the left and the far-far left hurling it back again, who the fuck would want to be caught in the crossfire?

    As for those of you predicting the downfall of U.S. democracy, try living somewhere else first.

  • 35 - Jet

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Is it me or are Chris and Doc being strangely quiet tonight?

  • 36 - Cindy

    Feb 14, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    The far far left are watching the mudslinging from the sidelines hoping anyone right of them wakes up to the notion that none of it is going to work. I don't know what the far far right are doing, waiting for the Rapture maybe.

  • 37 - Baritone

    Feb 14, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    The Rapture is Ruptured!

    It'd be interesting to see just how many DC politicos on all sides - Senators, members of the House, former and current cabinet members, agency heads, advisors, lobbyists, etc. are "tax cheats?" How many of them, or us here for that matter, would survive an IRS audit cleanly?

    With pretty much every new administration there has been a plethora of troubles with various cabinet, Supreme Court, and other nominees who have been found to have any number of issues including tax problems, problems with hiring illegal aliens as nannys or housekeepers, etc., conflicts of interest, being subject to some investigation, extra-marital affairs, etc.

    Few people go through the ringer of political life on most any level without some skeletal remains abiding in their closets. Certainly, the particular turn of events in this instance is at best nettlesome and at worst an embarrassment to Obama and which reflects poorly on his vetting system. But, it's hardly unusual.

    Arch, OA and others are already dancing on Obama's grave but as yet he hasn't so much as presented with the sniffles.

    While Jet (welcome back BTW) does seem to have been overly indulging in the Absinthe, it is, IMO, the rabid righties who are hyperventilating here. You are the ones who should be taking a breath and checking your meds.

    B

  • 38 - Jet

    Feb 14, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Thanks B for the even handed comment. It's a good thing you printed it three times!

  • 39 - Jet

    Feb 14, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Beentheredonethat

  • 40 - Jet

    Feb 14, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    from USA Today:

    The republicans are still bemoaning their demands for more tax cuts for the rich...

    The bill passed Friday with lawmakers largely voting along party lines, allowing Democratic leaders to deliver on their promise of clearing the legislation by mid-February.

    The Senate approved the measure 60-38 with three Republican moderates providing crucial support. Hours earlier, the House vote was 246-183, with all Republicans opposed to the package of tax cuts and federal spending that Obama has made the centerpiece of his plan for economic recovery.

    Obama "now has a bill to sign that will create millions of good-paying jobs and help families and businesses stay afloat financially," said Sen. Max Baucus, a Democrat who was a leading architect of the measure.

    "It will shore up our schools and roads and bridges, and infuse cash into new sectors like green energy and technology that will sustain our economy for the long term," he added in a statement.

    Despite Obama's early bipartisan goals, Republican opposition was nearly unanimous to the $787 billion package. Conservatives in both houses have been relentless critics, arguing the plan is filled with wasteful spending and that greater tax cuts would be more effective in creating jobs.

  • 41 - Jet

    Feb 14, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    I'm beginning to suspect that Arch never turns his right turn signal off when he's driving.

  • 42 - Dave Nalle

    Feb 15, 2009 at 12:18 am

    Strangely, I don't see spending a trillion deficit dollars and plunging the nation into a depression as an accomplishment to be proud of.

    Dave

  • 43 - Cobra

    Feb 15, 2009 at 12:51 am



    Thanks for the warning, but I'm well aware of the atmosphere here. This thing reminds me of some of the obnoxious NY Yankee fans I know. It doesn't matter to them what their players do,how outrageous their salaries are, what drugs they take (performance enhancing or mood altering), or what they're being arrested for, investigated on or convicted of...

    They're Yankees, and they will root for them regardless. They're the home team, right or wrong. They don't care about the integrity of the game, or what damage their behavior does to baseball. To many, being a Republican is akin to religion.

    What these GOPers in Congress are doing was supposed to be unspoken, but Rush Limbaugh opened his mouth, and exposed the GOP Campaign strategy for 2010 and 2012: which is hoping for The Failure of the American Economy.

    That's right. Their hope is that the American people don't recover. Their hope is that there is more wide-spread suffering, and double-digit unemployment. Their hope is that the Stimulus package, and every OTHER plan or policy the Obama Administration pursues fails.

    Fortunately, not ALL Republicans think this way.


    Gov. Charlie Crist said Friday the federal stimulus bill will bring tens of thousands of jobs to Florida and hopefully plug holes in the state budget.
    "Of the estimated $10 billion Florida will receive, about $1.3 billion is expected to go toward local and state transportation projects, Crist said. He said for every $1 billion spent on transportation, 28,000 jobs are created.

    "It's all about jobs, jobs, jobs," Crist said at a news conference.


    cont'd...





  • 44 - Cobra

    Feb 15, 2009 at 12:54 am

    Apparently, Governor Crist cares more about getting and keeping jobs for Floridians than reading RNC Talking Point memos attacking Obama. And he isn't alone...

    Florida Governor Charlie Crist, who faces a $3.5 billion budget shortfall over the next two years, appeared with President Barack Obama on Monday to promote the bill.

    California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, Vermont Governor James Douglas and Connecticut Governor Jodi Rell also back it.


    Even Governors like Jindal aren't going to turn down Stimulus money, despite grumbling about it for party appearances. He has a state to run as well.

    You see, many of these right wingers would see medicare and unemployment benefits cut for the hundreds of thousands of people who've lost jobs. They would see thousands of police, firemen, emergency workers and teachers laid off. They'd see services cut to the bone for the American people because THIS is what RNC strategy calls for--which is as much of an obscenity as cheering for the insurgents in Iraq, or the Taliban now that Obama is President.

    Come to think of it...

    "Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban", (Republican Congressmen Pete) Sessions said during a meeting yesterday with Hotline editors. "And that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."

  • 45 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 1:13 am

    Of course you wouldn't Dave, nor would you be proud of the idiot that got us into this mess in the first place.

    Did you think that his crisis just happened a couple of weeks ago?

    Desparate times call for desparate measures.

  • 46 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 1:16 am

    Wasn't it Bush who was in charge when billions went to banks and wall street fat cats so they could have their multimillion dollar bonuses before the voting public caught on?

  • 47 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 1:19 am

    How about the billions that went into the Alqida's(sic) pockets because Bush was too fixated on Iraq to pay attention to the heroine poppy fields that sprang up again after the Taliban left?

  • 48 - Dave Nalle

    Feb 15, 2009 at 1:43 am

    So Jet, because Bush made a huge mistake it makes it ok for Obama to repeat it? That makes no sense at all.

    We should repeal TARP, stop the current madness before it goes any farther and look for rational solutions. But fat chance of that.

    Dave

  • 49 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 1:50 am

    Sometimes you just have to have the balls to fight fire with fire Dave. If you have a better solution, why aren't you in charge of the country?

    It takes a lot less courage to critisize the fire fighter instead of taking his place.

  • 50 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 2:00 am

    You right-wing loud mouths need to put up or shut up, if you think you can do better, then call the white house with your more intelligent solutions, or would you geniuses rather let the country flounder in deeper and deeper depression for four years until you can prove to the country that your so fucking better than every other brain in existance and get elected.

    If you're so damned arogantly sure of yourselves than step up to the plate and run the damned country yourselves instead of running your fool mouths off and acting so superior.

    Well?

    Shit or get off the fucking pot!

  • 51 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 6:43 am

    Anyone else?

  • 52 - Arch Conservative

    Feb 15, 2009 at 8:24 am

    Your messiah won. The commies are in charge of both houses of congress.

    Why are you so angry?

    Do you really think that if you scream loud enough and often enough that you and your fellow Barry groupies can successfully stifle all those who would point out his very obvious character flaws and incompetencies?

    Despite the bitching and moaning of you and your ilk during the past eight years about how no one could speak out against Bush, which was an absolute horseshit assertion by the way, you and your reps in government want to show the world your true colors by silencing any and all dissent whether it be by using the Fascist doctrine to silence talk radio or by obnoxiuosly outposting those who disagree with you on a blog and telling everyone that they're choices are to walk down the Obama primrose path with you or shut up.

    However Dave, AL, myself and millions of others have not bought into the mythology of Barry as our national savior. We will express our opinions of him and point out the deceit he engages in and the lies he tells each and every new whether you like it or not. We sure as hell don't need your permission to speak about "the one" and yes we will laugh at you and ridicule your idiotic attempts to blame everything that Barry fails at or lies about on Bush.

    Based on what we've seen so far from Barry he has proven himself to be a complete fraud. A deceitful, snake oil salesman who is incapable of affecting any positive change for anyone but welfare deadbeats, illegals and jihadists. So we will be sharpening our knives and holding his feet to the fire every single day for the next four years.

    If you don't like it Jet......

    TOO FUCKING BAD!

  • 53 - Paul

    Feb 15, 2009 at 8:42 am

    Actually, the Republicans you write about actually DID win the election. Lest you forget, we live in a representative democracy that has a bicameral legislature. Those republicans are in that legislature precisely because they won THEIR elections. Do you seriously propose they turn their backs on the people and districts they represent just because other people won in other areas that have other ideas? As hard as I try, I can't find an example of a Democrats doing that in the wholesale manner you suggest when they were solidly in the minority. The closest thing you could point to would be almost all of them voting for the war they so strongly oppose now, but they did that because their constituents told them to in great numbers (they practiced representative democracy). Its in the constitution - article 1 - look it up...

  • 54 - Arch Conservative

    Feb 15, 2009 at 8:52 am

    Paul your post was entirely too logical and reasonable for such an ardent Obamabot as Jet comprehend and accept. For people like Jet, Chris Matthews, and that retard who works at MacDonalds who asked the question at the press conference last week the ONLY thing that matters is what Barry wants to do. After all, he is "the one."

  • 55 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 8:56 am

    That has to be the most pathetic attempt at distraction I've seen yet. Good for you Arch.

    A-Obama is not my or anyone else's Mesiah

    B-No one on the planet except maybe you is dumb enough to believe there are any Communists in Congress.

    C-Let's talk about your character flaws and incompetencies. The only thing you have going for yourself (if that) is a big mouth with no brain attached to it. You're more entertainment than intellect around here and you seem to be the only one who doesn't know it. You're the smartass in the back of the classroom whose convinced that if you make enough loud and funny remarks no one will realize you don't know anything, except how to be this website's "class clown" and with very very very few exceptions, no one with a brain respects any opinion you can type out with two fingers (unless one's in your nose)

    D-Unlike you, I've never claimed to have the solution to any political problem, nor would I presume to act smarter than any politician that's in Washington. I can and do admit when I'm wrong. If I had the answers, I'd be in D.C. running things instead of here listening to you make a fool of yourself, or anyone else for that matter trying to say they could do any better... because in the end you can't Bing and you're not only too arogant to admit it, but you deluded yourself into thinking half the world agrees with you.

    E-Quote: "based on what we see"??? who-what we, is that the royal we, do you presume to speak for everyone now? Like others on this website sooner or later you're going to wake up to the realization that just because you pronounce something or someone a lie/liar fraud incompetetant etc doesn't make it so, and only reduces what little credibility you have here (if any)

    Perhaps that's why you've been banned so many times from BC?

    Somewhere in that lame brain of yours is an intellect that is not only respectable, but usable.

    ...too bad you only seem to be able to use it as a website's class clown. Write your own damned articles with your own name on them, or comment here with your own name on it, and let others tear you down if you have the balls.

    Better yet as I've challenged others to do:

    Go to Washington and tell them what they're doing wrong if you're so damned sure of yourself, or become a frequent guest on Rush Limbaugh and show him what a wimp you think he his. I shudder to think what kind of world this would be if you were in charge, and I sure's hell don't want the job.

    Talking about it like you're lord high God of truth only makes you and others here look more like a fool than your already do.

    …...but of course that's only my opinion!

    ~J e t â€" G a r d n e r~



  • 56 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:02 am

    Typical Paul, because a whole district went Republican, along with a few others, the DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY must bend to their will and their stupidity rather than excersize MAJORITY rule.

    Where was that logic when the Democrats had the minority in both houses? Were you bellyaching about them not being represented because they didn't vote with the Republican majority?

    I didn't think so
    That's called being a hypocrite Paul, does Arch have his arm up your ass moving your mouth for you?

  • 57 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:15 am

    I read every word of #52 Arch, let's see how well you do getting through #55... I'll laugh at that.

  • 58 - Paul

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:16 am

    Jet, you need to take a breath. I wasn't proposing that democrats do what republicans tell them to. I just was answering the point that was made, that republicans shouldn't oppose the democrats because democrats won the election. Republicans have a right to put forward their ideas, and they did that. Your side seems to suggest that they shouldn't do that and merely go along blindly with the democrats. Seriously Jet, keep up with the arguments.

  • 59 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:19 am

    Sorry Paul, I was pissed at a speech some idiot congressman gave last night about how his district wasn't being represented properly because the Democratic Majority wouldn't let him properly speak for them and make a fool out of himself.

    apologies
    I was wrong to take it out on you.

  • 60 - Arch Conservative

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:21 am

    Well since anyone that does a modest amount of research on this website into past posts can easily discover that I have been much more critical of Bush and the GOP than you or anyone else currently trumpeting Obama's "grand victory" in getting this spending bill passed has ever been of Obama or the Democrats in Congress it is plain to see who is lacking in the intellect and objectivity departments.

    And seeing as how I actually voted for a third party candidate this past election instead of cheerleading for one of the hapless shills from the two major parties that have BOTH played major roles in sinking us into the economic morass that we are now in and pretending that the other side is completely to blame I'd say maybe it's you that needs to climb down off your high horse Jet.

    You can spin it all you want and use a never ending litany of flowery language to describe your newfound hero Barry but the simple truth is that you, along with everyone who voted for McCain, voted for the status quo last November.

    Congratulations.

  • 61 - Roger Nowosielski

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:22 am

    Let the above comment stand as an example of proper conduct for everyone on this site. Let's all have the guts to admit it when proven wrong, and we might yet generate a useful discussion now and then.

  • 62 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:24 am

    Fact: wasting your vote on a 3rd party candidate in such an important election is really stupid.

    I'm so proud of you Arch, and the fact that you're so proud of it speaks volumes

  • 63 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:26 am

    Congrats Arch, you have a disciple!

  • 64 - Arch Conservative

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:29 am

    Fact: Neither Obama or McCain posesses the will or the ability to make this nation a better place to live for a majority of Americans.

  • 65 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:29 am

    Bush wasn't mentioned once in #55 Arch, put your glasses on old man.

  • 66 - Arch Conservative

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:32 am

    One disciple is a good start. Now if I can come up with a catchy mantra like "hope," "change" or "yes we can," I too can hoodwink millions of dupes.

  • 67 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:35 am

    Or you could change your "handle" to "just two men"

  • 68 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:37 am

    I'd follow Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, or even John McCain through the gates of hell if they asked me to before I took one or your platitudes seriously Arch.

  • 69 - Roger Nowosielski

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:41 am

    Jet,

    You're getting hot-headed. My remark (#61) was directed at you. Arch's wasn't on the board yet when I posted it.

  • 70 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:46 am

    kudos and apologies Roger, I was wrong, which is expressed with no sarcasm, just sincerity.

  • 71 - Roger Nowosielski

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:48 am

    No problemo, Jet. Just don't won't to be pegged wrong.

  • 72 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:51 am

    You know they say that divorce is eminent when the couple stops fighting-it means neither cares enough to defend their views on anything important.

    I guess when I stop caring about something, I'll shut up.

  • 73 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 9:57 am

    Oooops, Chris Matthews' show is on NBC in five minutes, I've never seen him, but I guess now I'll have to see what all the hubbub is about.

    Later kids

  • 74 - Jet

    Feb 15, 2009 at 10:16 am

    The democrats passed the biggest tax-cut in American history without republican backing or support??? I must've heard that wrong!

  • 75 - Cindy

    Feb 15, 2009 at 10:27 am

    All this chaos is interesting in its potential meaning. But not that interesting as a steady diet.

    Roger, did you submit your article yet? Since I am working at the computer most of the day again, I might have something to look forward to in my continual desire to escape from my boring work.

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