In 50 years we're all going to be living in sod huts and drinking our own urine. Be afraid. Do what you're told.
I think it says much more than they intended that CNN began their story Friday on the release of the IPCC's report on global warming with the words "the debate is over." To a large degree that sentence summarizes the history of global warming as a political issue, because the focus of global warming supporters has always been more on silencing debate than on proving their arguments. If no one dares speak out against you for fear of losing endowments and being pilloried in the press, the standard of proof for your theories suddenly becomes much easier to meet. Peer review no longer has the same meaning in a climate of fear and intimidation.…
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426 - Emry
The limp is in your head, Lumpy. Give it a good smack.
427 - SHARK
Eric,
Nalle's fraud was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. As D'oh points out, it wasn't JUST ONE questionable event, it was at least four -- which I've extensively documented here and elsewhere.
And I agree with D'oh: the important, critical violation was retroactively CHANGING his comments to hide the evidence. That's dishonest and unethical.
You can ignore his guilt, but you'll never convince an objective observer that the evidence presented reflects A SERIES of MISTAKES; they were conscious attempts at fraud.
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Vox on Nalle: "Of the characters in The Magnificent Seven, the picture unquestionably looks most like the Robert Vaughn character."
Nalle on Vox: "I've seen figures similar to the ones Vox quotes."
Vox on links HE HIMSELF provided (as Nalle): "The claim that this article is 'GOP spin' is an interesting one, since it seems to be based on reports direct from Iraqis inside Iraq if you follow the links."
"Liars -- when they speak the truth -- are not believed." -- Aristotle
428 - Maurice
The debate is not over.
429 - Maurice
Mankind is puny compared to nature
430 - Maurice
Not all world leaders are on board.
431 - Clavos
Maurice,
Excellent links in #428 & 430.
Unfortunately, #429 only links back to this article.
Probably doesn't matter; the believers aren't going to read 'em anyway.
Can you fix, please?
TIA,
Clavos
432 - D'oh
And as earlier pointed out and linked too, people are paying for the best science money can buy when it comes to attempting to discredit the studies that are out so far.
Doesn't matter...half of the article's title has come true..."the debate is over".
Enjoy the echo chamber.
433 - Clavos
I'm surprised, D'oh, that you of all people would not question more.
Not ALL those who disagree are "bought". Have you read the links Maurice is posting?
And I just don't believe that the scientists who are party to the IPCC Report (which nobody but them has seen so far; what was published February 2 was a "summary" written by government reps) are all pure in their motives.
And I certainly don't believe the government reps (including ours; maybe especially ours) are pure, either.
434 - Maurice
#429 Mankind is puny.
Thanks, Clavos.
435 - D'oh
Clavos...i don't give a shit
that's not the "debate" i was talking about, this is a courtesy to you personally,and only touching this thread to see if there was any *official* response since Eric's last
turns out i don't need heroin to bust this addiction...disgust is more potent
the circle jerk can now proceed without interruption or silly shit like objectivity
436 - Clavos
OK, D'oh. Thanks for the courtesy.
437 - MCH
"Troll, because of Nalle Vox's massive ego, you know we'll eventually see an "essay" by Dave Nalle entitled, "IF I DID DO IT, HERE'S HOW I WOULD HAVE DONE IT."
- Shark
The one I'm waiting for is "No Stray Dogs Were Killed In My Backyard Today"
438 - SHARK
I notice that Troll and D'oh have pretty much gone silent on the BC site.
SHARK [me] too.
This latest Nalle/Vox incident left a bad taste in this fish's mouth.
In the not-too-recent past, we already had what I and a few others considered a highly questionable situation:
Appointing DAVE NALLE -- a right-wing, garrulous, pedantic blowhard with questionable ethics and honesty TO BEGIN WITH -- as POLITICS EDITOR on Blogcritics.
IT GOT WORSE when he created a FAKE SCREEN NAME "VOX POPULI" to attack and insult opponents, *add to his ["Dave Nalle"] 'data' during debates, and to **compliment himself.
It changed from 'emotional bad decision' into the UNETHICAL, LYING, FRAUDULENT when Nalle went back and changed the Vox name to his own -- and THEN RETROACTIVELY DELETED THE ***ONE DAVE NALLE COMMENT that proved HIS GUILT beyond a shadow of a doubt: "I've seen figures similar to the ones Vox quotes."
IT GOT CRITICAL when -- given the evidence/proof of Nalle's lying, fraud, and unethical behavior, BC management, including Eric Olsen, Christopher Rose, and Mark Schannon, chose to ignore the evidence -- apparently because of Nalle's contributions to the site in the past.(?!)
Anyway, it sucks. And it's taken the fun out of the site for me. And I would submit that, given the last few days -- from the "BOOK LINK"/tout text in the box on the front page BC politics [book selected/text written by Nalle] -- to the new "theme" of the month, ie "FREE SPEECH" -- the whole incident has done little more than embolden Nalle and take the wind out of his many opponents.
It has tainted BC for me. And apparently, The Dark Side, once again, has won.
SHARK
*Vox on links HE provided (as Nalle): "The claim that this article is 'GOP spin' is an interesting one, since it seems to be based on reports direct from Iraqis inside Iraq if you follow the links."
**Vox on Nalle: "Of the characters in The Magnificent Seven, the picture unquestionably looks most like the Robert Vaughn character."
***Nalle on Vox: "I've seen figures similar to the ones Vox quotes."