George Bush Crying on God's Shoulder - Page 2

Bush has always made a point of saying that he doesn't make decisions according to the polls, and of course on one level, he's right. A president can't base his decisions on whatever the latest polls say. But you'd think that when the American people express such strong disapproval of their leader and his policies, he'd at least want to take a moment to ponder the reasons for their anger and search for ways to factor public opinion into his frame of reference.

In a classic case of wishful thinking, Bush has been reduced to claiming that although everybody thinks he's a screw-up now, history will vindicate him and record that he was a clear-eyed leader who did what he thought was right and as a result saved the earth from extinction. To me, he's like the father whose kids hate him, but it doesn't really bother him because he's "dead certain" that his strict authoritarian parenting style is what's best for them, and dammit, they'll thank him for it when they get older.

Bush posits the simplistic notion that he's unpopular because "I made a decision to lead." He says, "One, it makes you unpopular...and two, it makes people accuse you of unilateral arrogance, and that may be true. But the fundamental question is, is the world better off as a result of your leadership?”

Well, at least he admits that he's arrogant. I guess that's something. And the question he poses is exactly the right one. Is the world better off as a result of George Bush's leadership? The American people (and the world) have rendered their verdict on that score with a resounding no, and they're "dead certain" of their answer.

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  • 1 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 03, 2007 at 10:55 pm

    Ah, the miracle of demonization. If you can belittle and dehumanize your enemy then they no longer need to be taken seriously and at the same time the hollow foolishness of your own beliefs is less likely to be taken seriously.

    Well, at least he admits that he's arrogant

    Actually, I believe you make very clear that he doesn't admit he's arrogant, he admits that people accuse him incorrectly of arrogance. But sometimes Bush's thought processes are too subtle for his detractors who mostly just hear what they want to hear.

    Let me take you back to the founding days of the holy and always perfect democratic party and share a quote from its revered founder Andrew Jackson, which I suspect Bush always keeps in the front of his mind: "One man with courage makes a majority."

    Dave

  • 2 - REMF

    Sep 03, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    "But sometimes Bush's thought processes are too subtle for his detractors who mostly just hear what they want to hear."
    - Dave Popu...er, Nalle

    Yeah, in fact they're still trying to figure out yet what he meant by, "I know how hard it is to keep food on your family."

    --------------------------------

    "...share a quote from its revered founder Andrew Jackson, which I suspect Bush always keeps in the front of his mind: "One man with courage makes a majority."
    - Dave Popu...er, Nalle

    Oh, well that explains everything then. He can't think clearly because he's got that goofy slogan blocking "the front of his mind."

  • 3 - Doug DeLong

    Sep 03, 2007 at 11:19 pm

    Actually, I believe you make very clear that he doesn't admit he's arrogant, he admits that people accuse him incorrectly of arrogance.

    Dave, you're pretty skillful at making a quote mean what you want it to mean, instead of what it actually means. I think the quote is pretty clear and speaks for itself.

    But sometimes Bush's thought processes are too subtle for his detractors who mostly just hear what they want to hear.

    What? Bush has a thought process?



  • 4 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 03, 2007 at 11:55 pm

    Dave, you're pretty skillful at making a quote mean what you want it to mean, instead of what it actually means. I think the quote is pretty clear and speaks for itself.

    So do I, Doug. And I doubt anyone but you is likely to read that quote and disagree with me. I may be skillful at turning quotes to my advantage, but in this case no skill was required. The quote speaks for itself.

    What? Bush has a thought process?

    When you go with the common fallacy of assuming that he is stupid you render yourself incapable of analyzing his actions in any effective way.

    Dave

  • 5 - Doug DeLong

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:03 am

    And I doubt anyone but you is likely to read that quote and disagree with me. I may be skillful at turning quotes to my advantage, but in this case no skill was required. The quote speaks for itself.

    Well, I guess we'll see...Just so we're clear, you think the quote means that he's saying people accuse him incorrectly of being arrogant, and I say it means that he admits to being arrogant. Here's the original quote. Bush is responding to why he so's unpopular...

    "I made a decision to lead." He says, "One, it makes you unpopular...and two, it makes people accuse you of unilateral arrogance, and that may be true. But the fundamental question is, is the world better off as a result of your leadership?”

  • 6 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:07 am

    Dave, Dave - the quote is:

    "...it makes people accuse you of unilateral arrogance, and that may be true."

    In other words, he's admitting that people may be right about his arrogance. OK, he may not be putting his hands up to it unequivocally, but it's not what you're representing him as saying at all.


    (with apologies for the Ruvy-style over-emphasis)

  • 7 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:08 am

    Y'know, Doug. I think I have to admit to reading into that quote what I expected to see. I somehow missed the entire 'and that may be true' clause even after reading it a couple of times.

    It surprises me to see such an admission from Bush, I have to admit. Shows a depth of intelligence and self-examination you have to admire, really.

    Dave

  • 8 - Clavos

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:09 am

    Doc's got it rightest of all.

  • 9 - REMF

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:20 am

    "It surprises me to see such an admission from Bush, I have to admit."
    - Dave Popu...er, Nalle

    Almost as surprising as your admission of reading into a quote something it was not.

  • 10 - Doug DeLong

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:20 am

    I think I have to admit to reading into that quote what I expected to see.

    Wow, Dave admits he's wrong and Bush admits he's arrogant.

    A new day has dawned...

  • 11 - REMF

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:22 am

    Doug...Psych!!

  • 12 - Clavos

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:28 am

    So where's the once widely revered (and practiced) grace of the victorious gentleman??

    Dead, I suppose, as are most of the old values in this poor imitation of a once-great culture in which we now live.

    Pity.

  • 13 - REMF

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:34 am

    #12;
    Spare me.

  • 14 - Clavos

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:37 am

    Q.E.D.

  • 15 - REMF

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:42 am

    K.M.A.

  • 16 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 04, 2007 at 12:57 am

    Hey. By virtue of my Britishness, I'm the only &%#@ing gentleman on here, you @#$%er&%$*ers!!!

    ;-)

  • 17 - Clavos

    Sep 04, 2007 at 1:15 am

    Don't get carried away with it, Doc, but there's a grain of truth to what you say.

    By and large, Americans are a crude, loutish lot.

  • 18 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 04, 2007 at 3:40 am

    Almost as surprising as your admission of reading into a quote something it was not.

    Not the first time and probably not the last. When you actually read the posts and comment on a variety of topics rather than posting different takes on the same comment over and over, you're bound to make the occasional mistake.

    Dave

  • 19 - Christopher Rose

    Sep 04, 2007 at 4:43 am

    I can't decide what's the most disturbing, the President of the United States claiming to cry on god's shoulder or Dave Nalle admitting he made a mistake. I guess the Pres just edges it, but what a close call!

    Doesn't having a President who believes all this mystical shit make you worry?

  • 20 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Sep 04, 2007 at 5:04 am

    "Doesn't having a President who believes all this mystical shit make you worry?"

    Having George Walker Bush for a president ought to have made any American worry. The guy is stupider than a cockroach laying on its back.

    But the "mystical shit", Chris?

    Have a shufty at this quotation from a famous American document.

    When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation....

    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

    " John Hancock


    I have no respect for a cockroach on its back wiggling its little arms trying to right itself, like the sitting American president, but James Madison, Thomas Jefferson and John Hancock? - an entirely different class of creature...

    Last I looked, Chris, it was the United States, the land of those mystical G-d chasers, who saved the Brits' asses twice in the last 100 years...

  • 21 - Christopher Rose

    Sep 04, 2007 at 5:44 am

    I realise that it is a bit challenging for you to make sense when talking about religion and politics, so I guess that can excuse the rambling pointlessness of your last comment, Ruvy.

    I share your concern about the general lack of intelligence this president is displaying but why on earth do you drag in the US DoI or a somewhat distorted perception of what was at stake in the two world wars?

    For better or for worse, we are all living in the present not the past; we need to deal with the issues of the day, although of course it is important not to forget where we came from and how much we have grown since then.

    There is still a lot to do before we humans can feel pleased with our achievements but we're still a young species and hopefully there is still time to get it right.

    Bush chunders on about being judged by history, a line he seems to have borrowed from that other mystical shit Tony Blair, which seems little more than a blatant attempt at avoiding dealing with the responsibility and burden of the consequences for his actions to me.

    Although it's true that to bail out of Iraq now would be a shameful abandonment of duty (not that Bush is a stranger to that, of course), the decision to invade Afghanistan and Iraq in the first place seems to have done precious little to make the world a better or safer place.

    As you maintain that it is not these countries but others like Saudi Arabia and others that are the true enemies of America, I presume you would agree with me on that at least.

  • 22 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Sep 04, 2007 at 6:20 am

    "Bush chunders on about being judged by history, a line he seems to have borrowed from that other mystical shit Tony Blair, which seems little more than a blatant attempt at avoiding dealing with the responsibility and burden of the consequences for his actions to me.

    Although it's true that to bail out of Iraq now would be a shameful abandonment of duty (not that Bush is a stranger to that, of course), the decision to invade Afghanistan and Iraq in the first place seems to have done precious little to make the world a better or safer place.

    As you maintain that it is not these countries but others like Saudi Arabia and others that are the true enemies of America, I presume you would agree with me on that at least."


    For once, Chris, I can register agreement with you. And I can easily respect your view - you were a soldier yourself once, if I remember correctly, and presumably have a comprehension of what it means to stand and to serve. And in what you write above, you clearly have a sense of honor - sadly missing in the sitting president of the United States, not to mention others....

  • 23 - Nancy

    Sep 04, 2007 at 10:30 am

    #17 - You're right, IMO.
    #19 - yes.

  • 24 - bliffle

    Sep 04, 2007 at 10:33 am

    Bush isn't the first to demand that history justify his aberrant behaviour. The oldtime commies did it, and I've even heard child molesters claim that in time their perversions would be accepted as normal.

  • 25 - handyguy

    Sep 04, 2007 at 11:18 am

    I'm not quite sure why a straightforward, well-written piece like this gets under Dave's skin so. If it did not carry the byline "Doug DeLong," would it get the same reaction? In other words, is this personal?

    Yes, Doug uses the words to reinforce his negative opinions of George Bush. The NY Times front-page article on "Dead Certain" over the weekend had a similar effect without taking an explicitly opinionated stance. Doug's is an opinion piece, but far less hysterical than many of the words that fly by on Blogcritics. The Bush quotes speak for themselves [as do his failed policies].

    It's true that calling Bush stupid lets him off the hook too much. His manufactured aw-shucks persona seemed politically shrewd when things were working. Now that the administration is mired in disaster, it's hard to know what to think of his cowboy act.

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