Does it really matter if the homos want to get married? Is this really something to get all that excited about? I couldn't honestly care less. I simply have no interest in whom you sleep with let alone what you're doing in the bedroom - unless you're Paris Hilton, of course.
All this talk about how this is sure to be the hot topic of the upcoming presidential election leaves me wondering why? You'll hear a lot of the candidates, even the President, skirt the issue by saying something like, "I'm a firm believer that marriage is a union between a man and a woman." That's like asking them what they think about some sort of clean water legislation being hashed around in Congress and they respond by saying, "I think water is wet." Gee, no kidding?
But the question remains, should gays be allowed to marry? I've heard a lot of folks toss out the biblical implications of the institution: it's a union between a man and a woman because the Bible says so. But this still avoids the issue, because not everyone in this country is a Christian, let alone religious, and that nullifies the Bible argument. Besides, there's a little thing called the separation of church and state, and, quite frankly, I'd be more concerned about that line being crossed than whether or not two guys wearing lovely wedding dresses exchange vows.
If there is one overwhelming message in the Bible, it's one of Love. And if Jesus didn't mind dining with the prostitutes and tax collectors, people vehemently reviled in those days, how is it that we, as Christians -or whatever you call yourself-, can sit by and take a lesser attitude?
I've also heard the argument that allowing gays to marry would somehow devalue the institution and lead to the downfall of western civilization. As if two gay guys playing naked Twister on their living room floor can magically have a negative impact on the marital bliss of the heterosexual couple next door.
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— go to most recent comments1 - Craig Lyndall
"I could honestly care less."
Call it an out-of-control pet peeve, but I didn't bother to read after this. I can be such a jerk.
2 - Eric Olsen
Read on.
3 - Sandy
THAT was refreshing. Maybe a tad homophobic but damned honest. And as good an argument as there is to just live and let live.
Thanks.
4 - Craig Lyndall
Sorry to be such a prick. This really was a pretty funny post.
5 - Mac Diva
I think Tom's is a down-to-Earth and accurate entry, too. Interestingly, it was comments from a long-married couple that influenced politicians in a second Oregon county to change their minds about gay marriage. Now, homosexuals will be issued marriage licenses there. I've blogged the entry of Benton County into the fray, along with a history of the two-week old practice of gay marriage in Oregon, here.
6 - Shark
Although I don't have a link to shamelessly plug like MacDevil -- GREAT STUFF, Tom. Funny, entertaining, and insightful.
...you're gay, right?
7 - Mac Diva
(Nodding in rare agreement.) True. Psycho Shark has never done anything plug-worthy.
Don't sweat it, Craig. I just sent a private message straight to the junk folder because the title said "privit mesage."
8 - Chris Kent
I swear, you guys are worse than James Carville and Mary Matalin, and almost as boring as that K Street show.....;)
9 - Shark
I have a fantasy:
During the Democratic Convention, Cheney's daughter and her mate are married onstage by the Reverend Al Sharpton.
~AND THEY'RE BOTH WEARING TUXEDOS!
It would be more interesting than the Academy Awards show was.
10 - Roger
Shark,
Does the term "shark" mean you think you're the big fish??? People having been having Shark for lunch and dinner for a while now.
By Tom,
"I think water is wet." Gee, no kidding?
I think pussy is wet if you know what you're doing. In this case non of you do!
11 - Chris Kent
Roger still think he on baseball diamond in faded green Pinto humping to "Highway to Hell".....
12 - Roger
Yeah, during the basketball game. BITCH!!!
13 - Roger
#1 I'm still humping. #2 The only thing green is/or was you're dick after the skank ho's ( boy's and girl's ) you've been dipping into... FUCKING JERK OFF!!!
Go and spend some time with your alter ego's. You know?
14 - Chris Kent
Welcome aboard Roger. I see it took you seven minutes to come up with comment #13. Very impressive......
15 - Chris Kent
By the way Tom, this was an excellent post. I really enjoyed it.....
16 - Roger
Chris It didn't take that long it's not a chat room, I was doing other work. You are right however it was not a bad post. I think a lot of people are starting to get burned out on the issue. Didn't mean to offened. I have enough going on with out having to worry whether gays and lesbians are married.
17 - Roger
I really never agreed with gay marriage, but gays have been allowed to adopt and have kids it might not be bad to at least set an example of commitment by allowing marriage.
18 - Eric Olsen
Tom, I believe you actually changed a person's opinion - now that is a rare feat.
19 - Roger
If your referring to me you might be right. I have investigated more than a few parents (straight) being sued for child custody. I've seen some really messed up stuff.
If you are gay and allowed to adopt I beleive that it would greatly benefit the wellbeing of the child and their financial future.
My biggest fear of legalizing gay marriage is not the level headed responsible gay couples it's the other. What I mean is that as recent history has shown, if the President or Federal Government legalizes gay marriage there will be thousands upon thousands rushing out to be married out of celebration for the new law and out of true commitment and reponsibility. My guess is that the number could easily reach the one million mark in record time.
20 - bhw
I think there have been thousands upon thousands who would already be married if they could, young and old. So they'd just be doing it all at once because they couldn't do it before, not because it's such nifty idea. Why would you question their motives for marrying?
Besides, I lost count of the number of hetero couples I knew from college who got married right after graduation ... rushed right into it at a ripe young age [what a neat idea, we're grown-ups now!] ... and who are now divorced.
Why is it that heteros are given total freedom to screw up marriage [in the big idea and indvidual senses], but somehow gays who marry will actually take the blame for not respecting the institution? Jeeze.
21 - Sandra Smallson
As long as they don't get married in a church I couldn't give a rats ass if gays and lesbians want to get married and enjoy all the taxation benefits that married couples get, etc etc.
Like you said not everyone is a christian, not everyone is religuos. So, why prevent those who don't give a damn from getting married? No reason at all. My only problem with this whole homosexuality palava is when I am faced with a "christian homosexual" arguing about the rights and righteousness (can ya believe it!) of homosexuality. The arguments I have with'em are endless.
As for allowing them get married, I think it's the least of all the problems facing the global world today. Maybe not in a gay person's mind but in REALITY it is truly the absolute least or there abouts.
22 - Sandra Smallson
sp check..religious
23 - Eric Olsen
Sandra, I agree that the primary issue is one of rights and that is why it is important from a governmental standpoint, but no church can be made to implement practices against which it is morally opposed. I hope more religious people take your stance.
24 - Sandra Smallson
Goodness gracious! Eric and I are in agreement over my stance on an issue?! Ladies and gentlemen, kids, I see a pig in the sky, and would ya believe it?! It has wings...
25 - Roger
bhw,
I understand part of what you are saying but I'm almost certain that at least half would be married in a sort of a "victory celebration". If legalized there should be a mandatory waiting period especiallly if one or more of the parties to the said marriage has children involved.
Marriage is serious business for anyone. We don't need 250,000 people six months later saying "what the hell did I do"? There's already enough white trash straight couples for that.
Further, court cost and attorney fees are high enough already. I personally worked for a best friend and his attorney to help him gain custody of his son. Not only did it take two years and $10,000.00 for him, it cost the damn tax-payers more than $22,000.00 because the trashy mom fired two of three "free attorneys" whom the State had to pay for plus the court cost since the ruling was in the fathers favor. IN OTHER WORDS, Children and taxpayer dollars is what I care about most.