Fundamental Shift Toward Illegal Immigrants In the Works? - Comments Page 2

Forces seem aligned for a major change in U.S. immigration policy.

After years of divided, muted response to cries for decisive immigration reform in either direction — with the labyrinthine issues of law, economics, human rights, and culture further complicated by the horrors of 9/11 — there appears to be momentum building for actual legislative action regarding the fate of the U.S.'s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants.…
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  • 26 - Eric Olsen

    Apr 12, 2006 at 8:42 pm

    I am baffled as to how a basically straight news story about the situation at hand, a poll, a speech by someone with vested interest, and a netutral attempt to explain why there appears to be a shift in the works could be described as "whiny propaganda," but stranger things have happened

  • 27 - Victor Plenty

    Apr 12, 2006 at 8:44 pm

    I called a statement ignorant and a mindset xenophobic. I carefully phrased my statements as critiques of the ideas, not of the person.

    Apparently, some readers are not so careful.

  • 28 - Paul

    Apr 12, 2006 at 8:49 pm

    Easy way to to make sure the economy is not affected by removing the illegals is to revamp the welfare system and have some of the people on public assitance take the jobs.

  • 29 - Los

    Apr 12, 2006 at 9:53 pm

    rhetoric vs reality.
    How exactly are you going to pay for a 'wall' across the border?
    You also have to remember that politicians are manipulated by the big shots... Unfortunately they thrive on paying low wages to illegals. Good luck getting rid of illegals.

  • 30 - Jesus Christ

    Apr 13, 2006 at 4:49 am

    I have read every single comment, it sounds like its all from a high school student point of view, sadly its the young people of this new generation that come here illegally that are messing things up, NOT all of them but a good amount, "violence" comes from those damn movies we love so much, they grow up wanting to be gangsters, the ones already grown up coming from mexico, ("mature" ones) come to work, and since when working is a crime? "white people would not do jobs ALIENS do" Bullcrap, they sure would, but not for $5.50
    tell congress to raise the minimum wage, and you will start to see white people doing the dirty work, hell, your worried about Mexicans? wait and see in a few years when the chinese take over the world, then where the hell are you going kick them out to? the united states seems to not be so united after all. U.S.A is the most entertaining country in the world, the actions taken are a joke, but hey I love this country, specially on a system that makes it so easy to become rich.

  • 31 - Bliffle

    Apr 13, 2006 at 4:53 am

    "Unfortunately they thrive on paying low wages to illegals."

    Actually, the financial efficacy of low wages is vastly overrated. My observation in corporate America was that cutting the payroll was the mark of a poor manager or executive. Those characters lack imagination and experience to find new products, new markets and new merchandising techniques so they search around in desparation for a Big Target to shoot at, and payroll is obvious. But cutting payroll is often just a desparate prelude to financial collapse because it obscures the real problems of the company. An astute executive would better spend his time studying his inventory history and becoming a better buyer. When you see a guy cutting payroll (usually everybody elses pay but not his own) it smells like shifting the blame and trying to make up for his own past mistakes. Run for the hills.

  • 32 - Eric Olsen

    Apr 13, 2006 at 6:47 am

    okay, but Marriott is still not going to want to pay the maids more than it has to

  • 33 - Bliffle

    Apr 13, 2006 at 8:47 am

    Is Marriot doing well? Seems to me they're sorta static. Overripe. Ready for the picking, either by new competitors or ready to be ransacked by pirate executives, in the modern style.

  • 34 - Eric Olsen

    Apr 13, 2006 at 2:05 pm

    could well be, but I don't think any of the other hospitality companies want to pay more for domestic service either

  • 35 - Richard Brodie

    Apr 13, 2006 at 6:56 pm

    Judging from every American I talk to, with the exception of one fully tatooed radical, what is "In the Works" is a "Fundamental Shift AWAY FROM, not TOWARDS, Illegal Immigrants".

    An overwhelming majority of Americans think illegal immigration is a very or somewhat serious problem for the country today, and over two-thirds favor using the United States military to stop illegal immigrants from entering the country, according to the latest FOX News Poll.

    Of course the one-third minority are in all probability blue-state, big city, mainstream media brainwashed, liberal democrats.

  • 36 - linda

    May 19, 2006 at 7:57 am

    coursework4you.co.ukUsually in the experience of many coutries such as UK, when Immigration Laws get tougher, the economic and social factors get immediately affected. To be put in the other words, it is neccessary to make people work before trying to evade problems with immigration, imho. Anyways you can find a lot of academic and professional papers on immigration -There is a lot of relevant suff, such as "Immigration -attractions and government policy; Migration in Europe: motives and implications; International Migration and European Labour Markets". Hope you find it worthy.

  • 37 - Amiga

    Apr 13, 2007 at 12:11 am

    Most people don't even understand, they just listen to what others have to say. How many of our politicians have been out in the fields to see what is really going on? I don't necessarily agree with people being here illegal, but I do believe people have a right to make a living for their families. I've been told in the past what happened years ago does not matter today. Remember the American Indians. Well I think this is a thought of convience. As long as we continue to give in on any racial issues because of things that happened many years ago, then this issue should also be considered. Many of these illegals would gladly be in their home country if they could take care of their families. I think reform needs to happen. Somehow we need to figure away to speed the process and maybe more would be willing to wait.

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