Fred Thompson Speaks to the People - Comments Page 3

In his speech on Tuesday Fred Thompson talked to the people and exposed the emptiness of the myriad promises of the left.

Tuesday night was a night of heavy hitters at the Republican convention. Independent - some would say traitor - Democrat Joe Lieberman was the obvious star attraction. Getting a member of the opposing party to stand up and condemn their policies and endorse your candidate is always a winner, even if it's a mealy-mouthed endorsement from an unappealing stooge like Joe Lieberman. Yet it turned out that the real star, who upstaged Lieberman in every way, was former Senator and Presidential candidate Fred Thompson.…
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  • 76 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 07, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Clavos, to the dems those are their brothers in arms so anything they make up is gospel.

    Dave

  • 77 - RJ Elliott

    Sep 08, 2008 at 12:16 am

    USA TODAY/Gallup Poll:

    McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters, the Republican's biggest advantage since January and a turnaround from the USA TODAY poll taken just before the convention opened in St. Paul. Then, he lagged by 7 percentage points.

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    McCain has narrowed Obama's wide advantage on handling the economy, by far the electorate's top issue. Before the GOP convention, Obama was favored by 19 points; now he's favored by 3.

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    In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote. The survey of 1,022 adults, including 959 registered voters, has a margin of error of +/" 3 points for both samples.

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    Before the convention, Republicans by 47%-39% were less enthusiastic than usual about voting. Now, they are more enthusiastic by 60%-24%, a sweeping change that narrows a key Democratic advantage. Democrats report being more enthusiastic by 67%-19%.


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  • 78 - Silas Kain

    Sep 08, 2008 at 12:23 am

    And next week, both will do down in the polls and Jon BonJovi will have 18% because people saw a film clip of him on Rock The Vote with Obama and thought the gorgeous (well, he IS cute!) BonJovi himself was running. And the following week McCain will get a bounce because there'll be a Jim Nabors sung commercial for McCain during Lawrence Welk reruns.

  • 79 - RJ Elliott

    Sep 08, 2008 at 12:24 am

    The latest Gallup Daily Tracking Poll:

    The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows John McCain moving ahead of Barack Obama, 48% to 45%, when registered voters are asked for whom they would vote if the presidential election were held today.


    Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll:

    In the first national polling results based entirely on interviews conducted after Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech, Barack Obama gets 46% of the vote and so does John McCain. When "leaners" are included, it’s all even at 48%.

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    McCain earns the vote from 89% of Republicans while Obama is supported by 81% of Democrats. McCain also manages to attract 15% of Democrats while Obama gets 9% of the Republican vote.

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    Palin is viewed favorably by 58% of voters including 40% with a Very Favorable opinion of her. Biden earns positive reviews from 48% of voters.


    LOL @ Biden

  • 80 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 08, 2008 at 1:43 am

    @ #77, 79:

    All very nice, RJ, were it not for the trifling fact that your weirdass country doesn't decide who's president by counting who got the most votes.

    The main sites that track state polls, such as this one and this one, still project an Obama win.

    And what should be concerning you, RJ, is how accurately they predicted the last two elections!

    Looking at the EV map, it's pretty clear that most of the states that matter are already decided. A lot of the toss-up ones are tiny and probably won't make much of a difference to the overall result (with the possible exception of Colorado if things get close). The two crucial states, clearly, are going to be Ohio (again!) and Virginia. Whoever sneaks those wins the whole shebang*. That's my opinion, anyway.



    * Or if Obama and Biden win, hebang.

  • 81 - bliffle

    Sep 10, 2008 at 4:32 am

    McCains own words from his 1973 interview in US News:

    "I think it was on the fourth day that two guards came in, instead of one. One of them pulled back the blanket to show the other guard my injury.
    ...
    When I saw it, I said to the guard, "O.K., get the officer." An officer came in after a few minutes....

    I said, "O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital." "

    Hero? After 4 days? And now he claims it was only after years of torture.

    John McCain is an outright liar. And no hero.

  • 82 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 10, 2008 at 4:42 am

    So much hate, Bliffle. How can you live with it?

    Read my article on this subject. It pretty much lays the whole collaborator issue to rest.

    Dave

  • 83 - bliffle

    Sep 10, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    I don't go out of my way to read your articles, Dave, because they are utterly unreliable.

    What I quoted is John McCains own words.

    I don't hate McCain, I just don't trust him. He's inflated a modest (at best) POW experience into a Grand Heroic Soap Opera.

    I would never have said anything about McCains POW episode if he hadn't taken the initiative and turned it into a career. He should have taken the example of better men and better soldiers who never mentioned their war experiences. And most soldiers are that modest. He became a blowhard.

    I supported McCain in 2000, but he lost me when he knuckled under to Bush, an inferior man, and humiliated himself.

  • 84 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 10, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Bliffle, McCain did not seek out publicity for his POW experience. It was thrust upon him in 1973 when US News and World Report interviewed him during his lengthy medical recuperation and made a him a national symbol for the Vietnam POWs with their profile.

    Dave

  • 85 - bliffle

    Sep 10, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Wrong, Dave. At every turn McCain has flaunted his POW status. Even hired flunkies like Fred Thompson and numerous other speakers on his behalf have been instructed to trumpet his POW time.

    Do you think they do it without his approval, nay his insistence?

    Did you forget that a few days ago McCain himself defended his ignorance of his own homes by slyly saying the place he lived in longest was the HANOI HILTON?

    I don't hate McCain, I don't even dislike him. I was willing to vote for him in 2000 because I thought he was the best candidate.

    I don't even despise him for cooperating with the NVA commies. Who knows what any one of us would do in the circumstances?

    But I do fault him for not being embarrassed by his actions. Maybe even ashamed. He should at least KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT about it, NOT turn it into a fake celebration of his 'heroism'.

    He did not act heroically.

    He lied to construct a fable of his own POW days to feed his ambition.

    I conclude that he is a dangerous man, and NOT to be trusted.

  • 86 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 10, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    My point was that McCain's reputation was not originally the product of self-promotion, but of others celebrating his experience and making it known nationally. Certainly he capitalized on that some years later, but he's a politician. They use the experience they have.

    I wish you'd apply the same scrutiny to Obama's history that you do to McCain's. How you could not be repelled by his association with Ayres (whose wife is on a speaking tour profiting from her conviction of a terrorist as we sit here), or his early training in institutional Marxism, or his association with the vote fraud machine at ACORN, is utterly beyond me.

    Dave

  • 87 - RJ Elliott

    Sep 11, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    Dr. Dreadful in comment #6:

    "I dunno about that bounce, RJ. The overall impression I get so far is that Republicans were somewhat underwhelmed by the speech. They'd better hope they got a nice bounce from Palin, because it doesn't seem that McCain gave them much to be buoyant about!"

    I then cite evidence of a very real bounce in comments #59, 60, 77, and 79.

    Dr. Dreadful in comment #81:

    "All very nice, RJ, were it not for the trifling fact that your weirdass country doesn't decide who's president by counting who got the most votes."

    LOL. Moving the goalposts is hard work, DD. Care for some lemonade? (I promise it's not just my piss in a cup.) ;-)

  • 88 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 12, 2008 at 1:19 am

    I then cite evidence of a very real bounce in comments #59, 60, 77, and 79.

    Sure - several days later, after the weekend poll frenzy.

    And it's hard to escape the conclusion that a lot of the oomph was down to Palin - McCain wasn't that scintillating!

    Moving the goalposts is hard work, DD.

    I didn't move any goalposts, RJ. They were planted way back when by some wacky gentlemen in powdered wigs...

    All I'm saying is that it is wise to pay as much, if not more, attention to the electoral college than the national polls. The two sites I linked to are both excellent - one is run by a liberal and the other by a conservative, but both got the '04 and '06 results pretty much on the nose.

    For the true election nerd, there's another site called fivethirtyeight.com, which breaks the numbers down in so many different ways that it would be utterly ridiculous if it weren't such fun!

  • 89 - Clavos

    Sep 12, 2008 at 1:32 am

    Doc,

    Thanks for the fivethirtyeight link!

    Just spent about thirty minutes there.

    As you say, fun!

  • 90 - Clavos

    Sep 12, 2008 at 1:33 am

    Oops, misread my watch...just spent about ten minutes on 538...

    It's late.

  • 91 - Dr Dreadful

    Sep 12, 2008 at 1:38 am

    Just in case you hadn't guessed, the 'fivethirtyeight' refers not to the total number of electoral college votes, but to the difference between the number of minutes you thought you spent on the site, and the actual number of minutes you were there!

  • 92 - Clavos

    Sep 12, 2008 at 1:58 am

    Sigh...:>)

  • 93 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 12, 2008 at 2:47 am

    I spent some time there too. Posted about it, but the comment seems to have vanished.

    My main point was that they have McCain up in the electoral vote even without counting a couple of states which I think they're erroneously giving to Obama like Arizona and Nevada.

    And I saw the latest polls too. Very scary for Obama. The kind of numbers you see before a landslide.

    I bet if they send Palin around to campaign for selected local candidates it could swing the Senate to the GOP.

    Dave

  • 94 - bliffle

    Sep 12, 2008 at 4:20 am

    IMO, Palin is scoring points with voters because she's openly attacking her opponents. She's not showing the polite deference to opponents that is customary. As I've averred before, voters like a fighter, someone they feel will fight on their behalf against those pesky foreigners that are always harassing us.

    I notice that Hillary has said she will not attack fellow-vagina Palin. I assume that Hillary will not attack fellow Senator McCain, said to be her good friend, either. So what's left for Hillary to do?

    You'd think that her unwillingness to fight would damage Hill, even among women, who obviously like bloody warriors like Palin. But no, she showed her warrior creds by attacking Obama in the primaries!

    Well, I'm impressed.

  • 95 - Dave Nalle

    Sep 12, 2008 at 4:36 am

    I think Palin also scores points every time one of Obama's surrogates or any of the psychotic far left bloggers attacks her with some patently bogus and easily debunked accusation. She gets a lot of sympathy and that translates into votes. Plus the behavior of these flacks for the Obama campaign is costing him votes by alienating people.

    Dave

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