First Look 2008: Karen Kwiatkowski - Page 2

Material about Kwiatkowski, including interviews: National Review, Fox News (John Gibson), Front Page Magazine, History News Network, Mother Jones, In These Times, Daily Kos, LA Weekly, Common Dreams, McSweeney's, Truthout, C-SPAN, Guerilla News Network, Asia Times, al-Jazeera and others.

The above list is certainly not exhaustive. It's not all positive, either - the "conservative" (or, more specifically, neoconservative) media have not been friendly. However, even unfriendly coverage raises a person's profile and being attacked can be as good as being supported, depending on who's doing the attacking. Kwiatkowski's attackers have almost uniformly been supporters of the war on Iraq and of the Bush administration's foreign policy in general. If the LP wants to nominate an anti-war candidate (and I think we should), Kwiatkowski is one who has already walked the War Party's gauntlet several times without apparent injury, and who indisputably has better credentials than most American politicians to discuss US foreign policy.

Let's go over the two main lines of attack that Kwiatkowski's antagonists have pursued:

- She's been accused of being anti-Israel or even anti-semitic. I've been unable to find so much as one iota of evidence to sustain either of these charges. While she has been critical of what she considers to be undue Israeli influence over US foreign policy, she has also described Israel as a US friend and ally. I've yet to find any claim that Kwiatkowski has ever attacked, or made derogatory remarks about, Jews (or blacks, or Mexicans, or gay men, or lesbians, or any other racial, sexual, religious or social group). Naturally, if anyone knows differently, I hope they'll share ... but so far these attacks look like 100% hot air.

- She's also been accused of associations with the Lyndon LaRouche cult. She unequivocally denies any such associations. So far as I can tell, the accusations rest on a single piece of "evidence" — that she gave an interview to Executive Intelligence Review, a LaRouche publication. I've been unable to find any other indication of any connection between Kwiatkowski and the LaRouchies — and the interview doesn't seem to constitute a connection, either. For one thing, after a summary of it was distributed via email by an EIR editor, Kwiatkowski rebutted a number of that editor's assertions as to what she had said and meant. For another, EIR has interviewed any number of public figures who could not plausibly be described as LaRouchies. From the Washington Post:

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  • 1 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 07, 2006 at 8:47 am

    How would she hold up as a candidate if one of the limited number of LP state legislators decided to run against her. I imagine that's the real question.

    Of course, there's no job more thankless or pointless than running as a LP candidate and having half your own party reject you if you make even one pragmatic compromise or sensible statement.

    Dave

  • 2 - Thomas L. Knapp

    Apr 07, 2006 at 10:09 am

    Dave,

    I think she could probably prevail over a former state legislator, even one who had been elected on the LP ticket or a "fusion" ticket.

    On the other hand, if a former US congresscritter, governor or cabinet official sought the nomination, even though they were previously affiliated with another party, things would be different.

    As far as positions go, most of her public comment has been on foreign policy (and that's a fight we're going to have to have in the LP -- might as well get it done with). However, she's written for some pretty hardcore ideological libertarian sites (LewRockwell.Com and Strike the Root come to mind) and has been an LP member for more than a decade, so I suspect that she'll pass most "purity tests."

    Regards,
    Tom Knapp

  • 3 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 07, 2006 at 4:46 pm

    Hell, I've been a LP member for 30 years and was a paid employee of the party and I probably wouldn't pass the kind of 'purity test' some of the extremists are inclined to give.

    Dave

  • 4 - Mo

    Apr 07, 2006 at 6:17 pm

    Let's see if the neocons attack Kwiatkowski the way they have attacked General Zinni.

  • 5 - Mo

    Apr 07, 2006 at 7:14 pm

    In “The New Pentagon Papers”, Kwiatkowski says --“But there were other enemies within, anyone who dared voice any skepticism about their grand plans, including Secretary of State Colin Powell and Gen. Anthony Zinni.”

    If Kwiatkowski ever achieved a serious possibility of becoming president, she would receive the full wrath of the neocon media for her views on foreign policy.

  • 6 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 08, 2006 at 1:05 am

    Got Neocons on the brain do we, Mo? There are no Neocons in the LP. Not one. Which would be exactly equal to the number of Neocons in the media.

    Dave

  • 7 - Mo

    Apr 08, 2006 at 2:37 am

    Dave says:

    "Got Neocons on the brain do we, Mo?

    Dave likes to refer to the singular as "we".

    It is well known that Dave likes to magnify himself to be plural by saying "we". He is accustomed to doing this.

    Is Dave more than one person? Does saying "we" make Dave a larger dispenser of truth, or just a larger purveyor of his assertions?

    Dave goes on:

    "There are no Neocons in the LP. Not one."

    We can all be thankful for that.

    The next statement shows Dave can't count:

    Dave says:

    "Which would be exactly equal to the number of Neocons in the media."

    Not even one?

    How about one that Dave just referenced elsewhere:

    And Dave must not watch the Fox News Channel either.

  • 8 - Dave Nalle

    Apr 08, 2006 at 4:12 am

    So now all Jews are Neocons? Are the terms literally interchangeable in your fevered mind, Mo?

    And when I say 'we' when referring to you, Mo, that's because I'm being condescending.

    Dave

  • 9 - Lumpy

    Apr 08, 2006 at 4:28 am

    Sounds like moe is a one man hate machine. I wonder who else is on his list after the jews and the neocons.

  • 10 - Thomas L. Knapp

    Apr 08, 2006 at 9:43 am

    It really all comes down to how you define "neocon."

    "The neoconservatives" proper are a relatively small group of intellectuals who share certain goals for certain reasons, i.e. because they prescribe to particular common theories of history and policy. Not everyone who shares one or more goals with the neoconservatives is a neoconservative, any more than everyone who wants a tax cut is a supply side economist.

    There are certainly some neoconservatives "in the media." For one thing, the neoconservatives have their own media (including but not limited to The Weekly Standard), and for another, neoconservative think tanks offer talking heads for TV policy shows and sponsor columnists whose work appears in "mainstream" newspapers.

    I doubt if you'd find a proper neocon in the Libertarian Party, though, even if you might find a few LP members who support the war on Iraq, or think the US should tangle with Iran, or whatever.

    Tom Knapp

  • 11 - Mo

    Apr 08, 2006 at 10:43 am

    Dave references a website that promotes the neocon agenda.

    Dave gets my response that identifies it as website that promotes the neocon agenda.

    Dave then says that it is not a website that promotes the neocon agenda.

    Go figure.

    And Dave has a secret.

    He thinks the Fox News Channel doesn’t promote the neocon agenda.

  • 12 - Mo

    Apr 08, 2006 at 10:44 am

    The term "neocon" has evolved to extend the definition of "neo-conservatives" to include their fellow travelers.

    A neocon is one who supports the positions of the "New American Century".

  • 13 - Mo

    Apr 08, 2006 at 10:47 am

    Karen Kwiatkowski is not a neocon.

    That would make her a target for the neocons if she ever got close to being elected.

  • 14 - Mo

    Apr 08, 2006 at 1:34 pm

    Lumpy wonders who is on my “hate list.”

    Only two, Lumpy.

    1. Liars.

    2. Warmongers.

    Can’t stand either one.

  • 15 - Lumpy

    Apr 08, 2006 at 3:01 pm

    So you don't hate terrorists or nazis or bigots or antisemites or Bush? just neocons, jews, our troops and libertarians. Wh you're full of love or at least full of something.

  • 16 - Mo

    Apr 08, 2006 at 6:18 pm

    Lumpy -- you are dense.

    “Liars and Warmongers“ includes terrorists, nazis, bigots, anyone who hates people because of their religion -- and anyone else who fits the bill of being either a liar or a warmonger. Use your imagination…

  • 17 - James roth

    Jun 15, 2007 at 9:13 pm

    jews are liars and warmongers and cheerleaders of united states, They can ignite wars in muslim countries for usa..

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