Faith of our Fathers - Comments Page 2

A man's home is his castle: a preface for a civil society.

“I will not allow violence against this house,” stated Dustin Hoffman’s character in the original Straw Dogs (1971), a graphic film that is still worth watching, but only by adults. Most will watch Sam Peckinpah’s psychological thriller with some Western themes only once. For many, some quick editing via the remote will be required. The central point of the movie is still valid.…
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  • 26 - roger nowosielski

    Sep 19, 2011 at 6:12 am

    There definitely are.

  • 27 - Christopher Rose

    Sep 19, 2011 at 6:40 am

    Clavos, not that I can see; what makes you think there are?

  • 28 - Jordan Richardson

    Sep 19, 2011 at 7:16 am

    Because Cannonshop mentions a #27 in his #24.

  • 29 - Christopher Rose

    Sep 19, 2011 at 7:30 am

    Aah, yes, I see that now. Thanks.

    Well, there is certainly no censorship of views going on so the only things that can have been removed are dupes or spam.

    I can correct the numbering if that would help or just leave things as they are...

  • 30 - Cannonshop

    Sep 20, 2011 at 1:37 am

    I think I may have gone too far in my (now revised in order due to cleanup) comment #24.

    After all, Glenn isn't from Cuba, probably never visited there, and isn't even from a family that spoke spanish.

    Given his political leanings, I doubt he would LEAVE a place like Cuba (at least, voluntarily), so he'd hardly need to 'go back'.

    So, I withdraw the outburst.

    The principle that Contrarian quite intentionally fails to grasp, is that Collectivism and identity by demographic robs individuals of their courage, independence, and initiative...and that's the culture he promotes in a nutshell-you aren't a person, yourself, you are your Ethnicity, your economic background, or your skin colour ONLY.

    Because THAT is what Democrats, esp. party-first democrats, represent.

    That culture by its nature of disempowering the individual, promotes apathy, helplessness, and the culture of the victim.

    It promotes physical AND moral cowardice, bandwagon mentalities, and relies on the cult of personality to select and evaluate its leaders...

    And then applies that same twisted logic to everyone, including those NOT part of the same poisonous philosophy.

    Hence, while 'conservatives' don't really necessarily care for people like Bush, Palin, or Rove, nor spend much time listening to mouthpieces like Palin, Beck, or Limbaugh, those famed persons are immediately assumed by Leftists to be the "Personalities" which the Right must have a cult for.

    Note also that "Republican" doesn't mean the same thing as "Conservative"-in fact, NeoCons like GW Bush, his daddy, Boehner or others in D.C. and thereabouts, are really rather more collectivist than some Democrats such as the Late Charlie Wilson.

    The Left has been the lever on the culture since at least the 1960's, the helplessness and blame-culture, along with the apathy, inability, and corruption is THEIR gift to the future, Reagan wasn't particularly conservative, he was a Politician first and foremost, just like his successors have been. John Kerry and John McCain share more policies with each other, than McCain does with ANYBODY in a TEA-Party gathering, and no, I dont' think Sarah Palin is stupid enough to run for President-her nomination for VP was the Party's way of destroying her political future as payback for knocking out the Murkowski Machine in Alaska and making the oil companies play 'good dog' instead of 'top dog'.

    She's more effective as a gadfly, and unlike the closest thing to her on the other side (Al Gore) she doesn't claim to be an oracle or possess a Nobel Prize she didn't earn.

  • 31 - Glenn Contrarian

    Sep 20, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Cannonshop -

    Given his political leanings, I doubt he would LEAVE a place like Cuba (at least, voluntarily), so he'd hardly need to 'go back'.

    Oftentimes, people just want to believe the absolute worst about those who have different beliefs - and that's what you're doing with me.

    I think I do know a bit more about life in a third-world nation than you do...and if you'll actually take the time to READ, you'll find out WHY I'm willing to live in a third-world nation...and it all boils down to something that's far more important than political leanings. But you'll have to READ in order to find out what it is.

    But if your past conduct is any indication, you'll ignore the article and anything it says, because I'm just a terrible, terrible person, that I'm just the antithesis to everything that's good and true and right in Cannonshop-world. It's almost as if in your eyes I'm some kind of newfangled Red Menace waiting to point my Socialist/Nazi/Commie Ray (upgraded from the "Gay Ray") at all the innocent children of Republicans and conservatives (who apparently are in your eyes the ONLY real Americans).

  • 32 - Glenn Contrarian

    Sep 20, 2011 at 9:21 am

    And Cannonshop -

    FYI, here's my opinion of what the BEST kind of political system would be. It's a repost of comment #67 on this thread.

    ---------------paste begins--------------

    I think one should beware of all-or-nothing attitudes towards any one political system. Pure capitalism - just like pure libertarianism and pure socialism - has inherent dangers. The danger of pure capitalism is corporate power run amok with little concern for very real environmental concerns that can seriously affect the nation as a whole. I need not cover the dangers of unbounded libertarian and purely socialist systems.

    A better solution, IMO, is to take the best of each - capitalism's economic dynamism, the libertarian aims of freedom e.g drugs, prostitution, and keeping out of war, and socialism's protections of the common citizen, the social safety net - and keep them for the benefit of the nation.

    Similarly, there has to be limitations on each concept. Capitalism cannot be allowed to run roughshod over the common citizen, there will be no libertarian ideal of "limited government", and socialism cannot be embraced to the point that we become another Greece.

    If you'll think about it, just such a 'Goldilocks' mixture is what America's been trying to do for some time now...and that's how it should be: no one system should go beyond its bounds to the point that it harms the American nation or the American people.

    Currently, with the resurgence of the Ron Paul movement, the libertarian sector is trying to make itself felt. Capitalism had its most recent victories in Citizens United and the weakness of the national responses to the bankers of the Great Recession and to the BP oil spill.

    And socialism, thank goodness, had a signal victory in the passage of the Affordable Care Act - if it survives through 2014.

    Moderation in all things, right? Just some food for thought.

    -----------------paste ends----------------

    But be sure to remember, Cannonshop, I'm just evil and bad and terrible and everything that you hate in this world. And I'm still waiting for you and a reporter to come over to Bremerton to expose me for claiming to be retired Navy. You'd better do it soon - sometime after the middle of next month I'll be flying overseas for a few months.

  • 33 - Paul D. Perry

    Sep 20, 2011 at 9:52 am

    Interesting speculation about Palin. Is there any fire to go with that smoke.
    BTW Cannonshop I agree with you about Reagan an earlier column of mine reflects that.

  • 34 - Igor

    Sep 20, 2011 at 10:16 am

    ¨Faith¨, as I understand it, is a surrender to other forces, other ideas. A form of slavery.

  • 35 - Cannonshop

    Sep 20, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Glenn, you misunderstand-within your moral code, you are not evil.

    But there was a question I posed many moons ago to you. Your inability/failure to answer it is why you are a fanatic.

    Is there ANY expansion of government, that you do not whole-heartedly support so long as it is in the hands of Democrats?

    You won't answer it, because there is none-as long as the Party is heavily socialist, you can't see anything evil in any expansion of their power, nor are they ever to blame for any bad outcome, and under that moral structure, anything is acceptable, as demonstrated by your own commentary on numerous threads.

    You just don't make the connection between Leftist Policy, and conditions like Greece or Zimbabwe, and without acknowledging the policy decisions that lead to those outcomes, your claim of opposing those outcomes are, frankly, empty.

    AACA might've been great-if the country wereen't broke, in debt, and in a debt-spiral from which it is NOT recovering, (thus proving the ineffectiveness of listening to Paul Krugman on economics.)

    AS for moving to the Third World, I'm sure you have invented for yourself lots of noble excuses, but it's like the New Yorker who retires to Colorado, then agitates to destroy every job mechanism that isn't a minimum-wage/part-time service job, because it 'wrecks the ambience'.

    It's your escape hatch from the mess you and your fellow travellers created here at home.

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