The claim that education, a college education, is a right confuses a right with an entitlement.
As a college professor, and before that as a student, I have never heard a student complain about his rights being violated because a class was cancelled. Nor have I ever heard a student thank a professor for protecting her rights by assigning a heavy workload. But, if there is a proposal to raise the interest rate on college loans, cries of rights violations are heard from the halls of Congress to every university and junior college in the nation. The claim that education, a college education, is a right confuses a right with an entitlement.…
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176 - Igor
This IS exactly an unsupported claim, because you have given no support for it. That's what 'unsupported' means.
my claim - that in most cases it is obvious by the end of high school who the brightest and best are - is not exactly an unsupported statement.
177 - Dr Dreadful
Igor: again, support for my statement is not needed for the same reason the statement "Canada is bigger than the United States" does not need to be supported - it's common knowledge.
But any time you want to provide any support, other than personal experience, for your statement that educational performance is not an indicator of lifetime success, feel free.
178 - Dr Dreadful
Hmm. Took me about ten seconds to do what you've been refusing for a couple of days to do.
You're welcome.
179 - Clav
Ah, Doc, yer a good bloke, despite what they all say. That was a very good link, from an interesting (and at least passingly respectable, too!) source.
180 - Igor
@177-Dr D is just a red herring. It has NOTHING to do with the issue.
Hey D: I called your assertion with an assertion and raised you by an anecdote. You can call, raise or fold. A call would require a similar anecdote, a raise would probably require an independent study, or you could just fold, in which case I sweep in the chips.
Your move.
I like this game. I've played it on a mahogany table in a board room with a roll of hundreds in my left hand.
Your call.
181 - Zingzing
Igor, your assertion is wrong and your anecdote is meaningless... Is this getting a bit psychedelic to anyone else?
182 - Dr Dreadful
A good indicator of someone who suspects they don't have a leg to stand on is when they start feeling the need to explain to everybody how they're winning the argument.
Usually it's right-wingers who do this, which makes me suspect that Igor may have picked up some bad habits when he was younger.
Igor also clearly didn't bother to look at the link in #178 or he would have realized that it at least partly supports his assertion, so he's beginning to look a bit silly at this point.
183 - Glenn Contrarian
Igor -
I called you with a similar anecdote - and pointed it out to you a second time, and you didn't touch it. See #159.
184 - STM
Igor: "How did you guys do in Highschool?"
Best way to answer that would be: Crap.
"STM could do better ... he spends far too much time staring out the window or piss-farting around in class and disrupting the other students."
But then I'm not doing that well now, either ...