In the quest to remove any and all obstacles and delays in the race for a woman (or girl) to get an abortion, abused women have been forgotten. Abusive men were coercing women against their will to get abortions. Bringing down the full force of constitutional law to make it not only constitutional to kill one's unborn child, but to be able to do so as fast as possible, has made it possible for women to be abused in the process.
First, Planned Parenthood apparently covers up obvious cases of abuse. Bill O'Reilly recently made news for getting in a medical records controversy about underage girls getting abortions. While the scandal is about how O'Reilly got the records, what has been overlooked is how underage girls are getting impregnated by presumably overage men and there are no reports made. Kansas, like most other states, requires all cases of suspected child abuse be reported to authorities. Planned Parenthood has argued in court that such requirements violate the privacy rights of those underage girls. The result is that these girls are left to be abused by overage men.
Second, women are coerced to get abortions. I know this because I personally know women it has happened to. Other testimonials and stories are freely available in the news and on the web. By eliminating even the most sensible restrictions such as parental notification (note that is not parental consent), a woman can be rushed to have an abortion and no questions will be asked. This is a boon to men who don't want to pay child support, don’t want to "lose face" for having a child, or want to cover up for their crimes of impregnating a minor. Coerced abortions are a problem.
However, laws such as HB 5882 in Michigan are a profoundly bad idea. Instead of going after coerced abortions by preventing them, it makes it a crime for a man to even be involved in the decision-making process in any way except for complete deferral. It's another attempt to separate men from children. "Constitutional" law says men have no say in the decision to get an abortion. This law says they aren't even allowed to speak on the subject. Considering the current state of child support laws and custody laws, apparently the only thing men can contribute is their paycheck and all other effort is disallowed.
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John Bambenek
I think the point of being an abuser is that you abuse.
Whether is making people get abortions or making them drink water out of a toilet, it is ABUSE by an abuser. Whether its bashing their skulls in or burning them with cigarets, its abuse.
You are trying to make a case against abortions when you are just stating that abusers are abusive to their partners.
Should we now abolish toilets because thousands of women are made to drink water out of toilet bowls. Should we tear down all walls because millions of women are thrown against walls, daily.... we could go on.
Nice try.
As for Planned Parenthood, their goal is to protect these women. It would be victimizing these young ladies further to reveal to their parents that they THINK the teenager is seeing an older guy and that she got pregnant and had an abortion?? The teens would end up not going to a proper place for an abortion. They would end up in back alleys again not getting proper medical help and risking their lives and their chances of ever being able to conceive again. As a mom, I'd rather my child be alive and healthy.
2 - Zedd
John Bambenek
It would be nice to see an article about the millions MORE women who are forced by abusive partners to get pregnant and keep a child that they don't want to have.
Looking forward to reading it.
3 - Zedd
John Bambenek
How are drive thru abortions performed?
Are they any different from regular abortions?
Are they done in cars
Oh and BTW Bill O'Rielly needs to worry about abusing women on the phone... perv
4 - wdufkin
Zedd, let's try to imagine a world where every child born would be wanted by every person who knew it had been conceived and also lets not forget that it be born into a family of privilege. Each conception should also be permitted only if the goddess mother and sperm donor have above average intelligence. Perhaps you'd even perfer a particular race?
5 - Zedd
wdufkin
Lets just let everything happen. Don't get a flu shot. Dont go to the emergency if you are having a heart attack. Lets just shut all hospitals down. Lets let everything that goes on with our bodies, GO ON!!
I mean first its a pace maker, next we'll be cyborgs.
I mean if you get diabetes from bad eating practices, you should be stuck with it RIGHT? The same with a heart attack. Cancer? Too bad, you smoked, good bye. You get pregnant because of unprotected sex or a failed birth control system, oh well, you get to raise a human being for 20 years WOMAN and hope tht your partner will change a diaper ONCE and put a trycicle together ONE Christmas.
You lack logic.
6 - Matthew T. Sussman
Sometimes it's faster to go inside and order an abortion to go.
7 - Dave Nalle
I miss the good old days when a family doctor would come to your house and deliver an abortion with a speculum and a smile.
Dave
8 - Clavos
Soon, we'll have online abortions: Microsoft is working on it as we speak...
9 - Dave Nalle
I want to know how to get these stirrups out of my car. They may be great for the drive-through abortions, but they make it hard to drive comfortably.
Dave
10 - Clavos
Suss,
Sometimes it's faster to go inside and order an abortion to go.
You want fries with that?
11 - Zedd
Hmmmm lets see how many women are commenting on this issue that affects them. You discussing stirrups and all.....Hmmmmmm
Theres a Dave... no thats a man
Theres a Mathew... no, a guy
Theres Clavos..... Well sorta
ha ha ha
12 - Matthew T. Sussman
Abortions haven't affected me.
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(That I know of.)
13 - zingzing
i saw this post in the comments list. i knew it was john's just from the title. the man has a way with hyperbole and loose connections. i'm just surprised that the aclu wasn't mentioned.... or was it? well, he did take a swipe at planned parenthood, his other personal demon.
14 - Dave Nalle
Zedd, the author of the piece is a man too. What's your point? Are men not allowed to have positions on abortion or to find Bambi's unpleasant ranting on the subject to be best addressed through humor?
You're a chick, right? Share your wisdom with us. Tell us you don't find humor the best way to deal with this article.
Dave
15 - Matthew T. Sussman
If your abortion has complications, do they make you pull up past the window?
16 - Arch Conservative
"As for Planned Parenthood, their goal is to protect these women."
Bzzzzzzzzz ....wrong again Jackass.
Planned parenthood's goal is to maximize profit from abortions without consideration for anything else least of all the mental and physical well being of a woman once they have received payment for an abortion.
This is evidenced by the lengths planned parenthood has gone to: cover up for grown men who have impregnated teenage girls without offering to help the girl in any other way than murdering her baby, prevent a young woman's family from being part of the decision of wether to abort or not in any form at all, deny the numerous studies which show having an abortion often has negative physical and mental affects on a woman, and attck pregnancy crisis centers which seek to counsel a women out of abortion and provide support for them after they have had their baby.
Face it....the only thing planned abortionhod cares about is profiting from infanticide. That's why I have no sympathy for the practicioners and enablers of infanticide who work for these wretched abortion mills that have been hurt or killed by an abortion clinic bomber. they have far more blood on their hands than any clinicn bomber.they had it coming!
17 - Jet in Columbus
Arch you simulate the sound of a vibrator quite well, you must have a lot of practice with one!
18 - zingzing
"Face it....the only thing planned abortionhod cares about is profiting from infanticide."
yes... that's why they offer sliding scale payment options, birth control, counseling to women/couples (family planning, adoption information, etc.) and tubal ligation to men.
19 - Zedd
ZingZing
Thank you!
20 - Zedd
Dave Nalle
That was humor.... I was picking at Clavos. You missed it. Or was it a left wing conspiracy to keep you from seeing the yuck yuck of it all?
I would think that the "ha ha ha" at the end of the post would sort of give it away?
21 - Zedd
Arch Conservative
Sez: Bzzzzzzzzz ....wrong again Jackass.
Wow!! I have never been called that before. It makes me feel sorta cool in a way but also iky and flushed.
I keep reading it over and over again and I cant believe that you just called me that out of the blue. Wow!! Guys live in a brutal world. Someone can just call you something like that for no aparent reason..... WOW!!
Thanks for letting me experience being cursed at by a complete stranger for no reason, especially in such a vile way. Its NEVER happened to me before. Seriously. I'll TRY to sleep tonight... Oh the nightmares!!
22 - Clavos
zedd 21,
So, you can dish it out, but you can't take it.
I'm not surprised...
23 - Zedd
Clavos:
Dish what? I don't use profanity.
Also that was tounge and cheek... for the most part.
The truth is women don't call each other such things. It is an educational experience and weird because it wasn't warranted.
Listen I post for fun. I'm recuperating and need something to keep the ol'noggin going. I certainly dont curse strangers out.
Btw I meant no harm by the last post. I hope you weren't offended.
24 - Margaret Romao Toigo
I am reminded of the feminist cliche about how, if men could get pregnant, abortion providers would offer drive-thru service.
Now, abortion might not be the choice that all, or even most, pregnant men would make if faced with an unwanted pregnancy, but it is quite reasonable to believe that abortion would be a non-issue if the proverbial reproductive shoe was hypothetically on the other foot.
Mr. Bambenek is a master of non sequiturs, which is an essential skill to have if one endeavors to support and defend untenable positions and premises.
25 - Clavos
zedd,
I was not offended.
"Jackass" is not profanity; it's the term for a male donkey.