GoHah: Personally I'd like to see all the namblites given therapy and other treatment for as long as it takes for they clearly have developmental problems all their own, probably on a compulsory basis, just as I would any other disease.
On the other hand, you either believe in freedom of speech or you don't. I'm already on record as saying FoS is over-rated but nontheless it is one of the prices we pay for our freedom.
Believe it or not, GoHah, I'm not all that opposed to the idea. But don't point out NAMBLA only. In my mind any adult who rationalizes the sexual exploitation of a child isn't worth their weight in sludge and deserves nothing short of a fatal beating. NAMBLA is one of many underground groups who exploit children. In our society, we try not to discuss "heterosexual" pedophiles for some strange reason choosing to concentrate on the more nefarious "queer" ones. It's just another example of the American penchant for duplicity and/or hypocrisy.
From Name: GoHah
Comments: maybe we should execute all members of NAMBLA to better safeguard free speech for their would-be victims.
I certainly hope that this was intended as sarcasm.
As others pointed out -- the NAMBLA folks did not commit murder -- someone else did.
The tone of your posts suggests intolerance. Deviate from cultural norms = the gulag for you.
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GoHah
Dec 03, 2005 at 3:46 pm
Kathy: You made me see the light--let' skip the middlemen, the judges and the court, and go out and exact a little vigilante justice and kill 'em all ourselves.
Intolerantly, Deviantly Yours, GoHah
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GoHah
Dec 03, 2005 at 9:28 pm
"Oh yes, to get back to the topic of this post - the death penalty is always wrong. So there!"
Christopher: I think I'm the one that got the topic off track (maybe hopelessly so)--sorry about that--Gordon
now that the u.s. has hit the 1000 1000 mark in executions,the next next one should be tookie williams. williams other than writing books for the the young brothers, he has never never admitted the crimes or nor was he a model prisoner larry
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steve
Dec 04, 2005 at 6:51 pm
when are they going to finally put that "crip" in a crypt?
36 -
Baronius
Dec 04, 2005 at 8:29 pm
There was a very funny South Park episode about NAMBLA. Both of them: the North American Man/Boy Love Association and the National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes. The Brando group hates the other one, by the way. But as the episode ended, and the NAMBLA guys were being dragged off to jail, the leader gave a speech about how society cannot survive as long as any group is being discriminated against, et cetera. Kyle cut in with, "Dude, you have sex with children. You have sex...with children."
Slippery slope and all, there's a line you just can't cross.
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Stan
Dec 08, 2005 at 9:56 pm
Steve #35 Excellent comment. You made me laugh after reading all the bravo sierra comments off this blog. I remember this mother who had a young child that was mollested and killed by a dirt bag. She walked into the court room, pulled out a pistol from her purse, and as the bastard sat with his liberal attorney with a smile on his face shot him in the head. Now thats justice. Yes she went to jail. So would I. This mother did what our crap legal system cant do for lack of ----. Do not recall her name but hero will do.Wish the left coast still used the electric chair. We could sell cookie tookies at Christmas.
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GoHah
Dec 08, 2005 at 10:18 pm
To Stan# 37: Ellie Nesler is her name, Northern California, and she's a hero in my book, too.
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Stan
Dec 09, 2005 at 1:57 pm
Thanks GoHah. Maybe California can adopt a new method of execution instead of lethal injection. For example. Stanley tookie Williams was executed last night with the newly adopted execution method (THE ELLIE NESLER) Many of the media people watching the event fainted as bits of Mr Williams brain and blood splatered onto the viewing window. Maybe Ellie Nesler would become a household word. Man im going to lay an Ellie Nesler on that sucker. Bumpers stickers, candy bars etc. Cant wait for the comments.
The cruelest and most unusual punishment is keeping death row inmates alive through a protracted appeals process. It's cruel to the victims families and it only prolongs the anticipation of death for the death rowers.
No Dave, the cruelest punishment is to end someone's life, whether it be done by criminal or the state. That's why we don't allow it or torture (timely topical add-on) in Europe.
We don't allow torture here in the US either, but the timely administration of a humane death is not torture or cruelty. It is cruel to torture. It is not cruel to just cease to exist.
DAVE: I'm sorry mate but that is simply messed up.
By our standards, everything you wrote is brutal, callous and inhumane in itself.
IF it is true that you don't allow torture within the USA, you're certainly complicit in letting it happen elsewhere. Why would the USA even need places like Guantanamo or wherever outside the USA if it wasn't to evade US law? It is laughable to pretend otherwise.
And, "it is not cruel to just cease to exist"? Such casual brutality is simply shocking. I can't even begin to address this deranged concept.
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26 - Christopher Rose
GoHah: Personally I'd like to see all the namblites given therapy and other treatment for as long as it takes for they clearly have developmental problems all their own, probably on a compulsory basis, just as I would any other disease.
On the other hand, you either believe in freedom of speech or you don't. I'm already on record as saying FoS is over-rated but nontheless it is one of the prices we pay for our freedom.
27 - Christopher Rose
Oh yes, to get back to the topic of this post - the death penalty is always wrong. So there!
28 - GoHah
maybe we should execute all members of NAMBLA to better safeguard free speech for their would-be victims.
29 - Silas Kain
Believe it or not, GoHah, I'm not all that opposed to the idea. But don't point out NAMBLA only. In my mind any adult who rationalizes the sexual exploitation of a child isn't worth their weight in sludge and deserves nothing short of a fatal beating. NAMBLA is one of many underground groups who exploit children. In our society, we try not to discuss "heterosexual" pedophiles for some strange reason choosing to concentrate on the more nefarious "queer" ones. It's just another example of the American penchant for duplicity and/or hypocrisy.
30 - GoHah
Silas: well said, 'nuff said--thx.
31 - Kathy
From Name: GoHah
Comments: maybe we should execute all members of NAMBLA to better safeguard free speech for their would-be victims.
I certainly hope that this was intended as sarcasm.
As others pointed out -- the NAMBLA folks did not commit murder -- someone else did.
The tone of your posts suggests intolerance. Deviate from cultural norms = the gulag for you.
32 - GoHah
Kathy: You made me see the light--let' skip the middlemen, the judges and the court, and go out and exact a little vigilante justice and kill 'em all ourselves.
Intolerantly, Deviantly Yours, GoHah
33 - GoHah
"Oh yes, to get back to the topic of this post - the death penalty is always wrong. So there!"
Christopher: I think I'm the one that got the topic off track (maybe hopelessly so)--sorry about that--Gordon
34 - larry
now that the u.s. has hit the 1000 1000 mark in executions,the next next one should be tookie williams. williams other than writing books for the the young brothers, he has never never admitted the crimes or nor was he a model prisoner larry
35 - steve
when are they going to finally put that "crip" in a crypt?
36 - Baronius
There was a very funny South Park episode about NAMBLA. Both of them: the North American Man/Boy Love Association and the National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes. The Brando group hates the other one, by the way. But as the episode ended, and the NAMBLA guys were being dragged off to jail, the leader gave a speech about how society cannot survive as long as any group is being discriminated against, et cetera. Kyle cut in with, "Dude, you have sex with children. You have sex...with children."
Slippery slope and all, there's a line you just can't cross.
37 - Stan
Steve #35 Excellent comment. You made me laugh after reading all the bravo sierra comments off this blog. I remember this mother who had a young child that was mollested and killed by a dirt bag. She walked into the court room, pulled out a pistol from her purse, and as the bastard sat with his liberal attorney with a smile on his face shot him in the head. Now thats justice. Yes she went to jail. So would I. This mother did what our crap legal system cant do for lack of ----. Do not recall her name but hero will do.Wish the left coast still used the electric chair. We could sell cookie tookies at Christmas.
38 - GoHah
To Stan# 37: Ellie Nesler is her name, Northern California, and she's a hero in my book, too.
39 - Stan
Thanks GoHah. Maybe California can adopt a new method of execution instead of lethal injection. For example. Stanley tookie Williams was executed last night with the newly adopted execution method (THE ELLIE NESLER) Many of the media people watching the event fainted as bits of Mr Williams brain and blood splatered onto the viewing window. Maybe Ellie Nesler would become a household word. Man im going to lay an Ellie Nesler on that sucker. Bumpers stickers, candy bars etc. Cant wait for the comments.
40 - Kathy
Stan, I find this attempt at humor (assuming that was the cause) warped and sick.
FIW, Williams has appealed to the Govenor for clemancy and at this time (11.30 pacific) - no decision has been made.
http://www.sfgate.com
If you were serious - I'm 99% certain this would fall in the category of "cruel and unusual" punishment.
Kathy
41 - Dave Nalle
The cruelest and most unusual punishment is keeping death row inmates alive through a protracted appeals process. It's cruel to the victims families and it only prolongs the anticipation of death for the death rowers.
Dave
42 - Christopher Rose
No Dave, the cruelest punishment is to end someone's life, whether it be done by criminal or the state. That's why we don't allow it or torture (timely topical add-on) in Europe.
43 - Dave Nalle
We don't allow torture here in the US either, but the timely administration of a humane death is not torture or cruelty. It is cruel to torture. It is not cruel to just cease to exist.
Dave
44 - Christopher Rose
DAVE: I'm sorry mate but that is simply messed up.
By our standards, everything you wrote is brutal, callous and inhumane in itself.
IF it is true that you don't allow torture within the USA, you're certainly complicit in letting it happen elsewhere. Why would the USA even need places like Guantanamo or wherever outside the USA if it wasn't to evade US law? It is laughable to pretend otherwise.
And, "it is not cruel to just cease to exist"? Such casual brutality is simply shocking. I can't even begin to address this deranged concept.