It was working; people across the nation were embracing the Obama campaign precisely because they saw in this young, handsome, energetic man someone who not only talked the talk, but who also looked the part and walked the walk. A consummate orator, and an obviously very bright man, Obama was offering not only change, but hope to an electorate thoroughly fed up with the “same old, same old” of the establishment Washington politicians of both parties.
The Clintons, consummate political pros that they are, realized they were not going to be able to beat an icon, a symbol; a candidate who was perceived in a totally new and different way by the voters. They had to destroy that image; had to make the voters look at Obama as just another politician, not the symbol on a pedestal he had become. By reducing him to just another politician, they decided, Hillary could beat him.
And so began the war on Obama. Bill began to talk to the press, belittling, criticizing, implying, alleging. Spreading innuendo and outright accusations (but cleverly never alleging anything that was an outright lie), they wore him down over the last few weeks, until finally, baited and tormented by Hillary on Monday night, he broke.
And Obama lowered himself to their level, fighting tooth and nail with Hillary until both took on a strong resemblance to kids in a playground, squabbling over possession of the marbles.
Which may well have been the Clintons’ goal.
Obama will be easier to beat now.
Unless the electorate catches on.
Article comments
— go to most recent comments1 - Dave Nalle
I think you've hit the nail on the head here. The question to me is why this type of vindictive campaigning doesn't just make more people hate Hillary, if that's even possible.
Dave
2 - john
Obviously your are a Obama supporter. You are overlooking the fact that he started the potshots at the debate.
Also, you are granting him that the aura like demeanor is natural and the pot-shot taking one is something he is putting on or is being forced too!
Don't you find his performance week when he is talking issues and not oratory?
Clintons have their faults but putting wool over woolly eyed can hardly be a charge.
3 - troll
...pobre muchacho Obama
4 - troll
on c-span this morning Zogby is reporting that the black vote is breaking 5 to 1 for Obama in SC in his most recent polling
5 - Bart
The Clintons are ruthless in their pursuit of Power. Obama is special, he wants honesty. Campaign your heart out, Clintons, but be HONEST. They aren't. Thank God, I'm Canadian! God Help America!
6 - Abel
The Clinton Obama feud reminds me of what Henry Kissinger said the Iran-Iraq War: "It's too bad both sides can't lose."
7 - Clavos
"Obviously your are a Obama supporter."
Actually, I'm not. I'm a lifelong right-of-center Conservative Libertarian who, at Presidential level has always voted Libertarian or Republican; never Democratic.
But I hate to see dirty pool.
"You are overlooking the fact that he started the potshots at the debate."
Did you actually read the article?? The Clintons were taking potshots at Obama for weeks before the debate.
"Also, you are granting him that the aura like demeanor is natural and the pot-shot taking one is something he is putting on or is being forced too!"
Since he started out statesmanlike and maintained it for weeks until the sniping by the Clintons became incessant, I think it's the obvious conclusion.
"Don't you find his performance week when he is talking issues and not oratory?"
Saying he is weak on the issues is the stock criticism of Obama, employed by all his opponents. Seemingly, it's the worst thing they can find to say about him, and it's easily refuted by a quick read of his positions on his website, where they are all clearly spelled out.
8 - Clavos
...pobre muchacho Obama
De acuerdo.
Y pobres de nosotros si la vieja le gana...
9 - Clavos
"The question to me is why this type of vindictive campaigning doesn't just make more people hate Hillary, if that's even possible."
If they continue their sniping at, and manipulation of Obama, that may well happen.
And they may; they are certainly afraid of him.
10 - Dan Miller
I live in a rural area of Panama and have pretty good internet but no TV; hence, I may have missed something. However, I have read that in one of her few public appearances, Mrs. Obama did pretty well.
How would it be if Mrs. Obama took up the game for her husband, and responded to former President Clinton's garbage? It would be a dirty game, and she might not enjoy it; but maybe, just maybe, it might earn Obama some female votes, and put Mr. Hillary where the Clintons are trying to stash Obama.
Just an idea, but might be better for Obama than his various male surrogates.
Dan
11 - Baronius
Heck of an analysis, Clavos. I hadn't thought about it that way.
I've always tried to make the distinction between Bill and Hillary, because they're two different politicians with very different styles, and different advisors. I've found a lot of analysis of "the Clintons" to be wrong. But the last couple of weeks, I've noticed Hillary adopting some of Bill's moves. Like the crying - that was the big one for me.
In this past debate, Hillary did another Bill trick. When caught lying, she repeated her lie with righteous indignation. That was always her husband's specialty, sticking to a false story so loyally that you start to think it's the truth.
This "praising Reagan and Republicans" thing is interesting. My theory is that she's backed Obama into a corner where he has to say the one thing Democrats aren't allowed to: that Bill Clinton is a habitual liar. Then, BOOM: Hillary's going to accuse Obama of being a right-winger. It's demented, but it's the only possible reason for her effort to paint him as a Reaganite.
12 - Arch Conservative
My theory is that she's backed Obama into a corner where he has to say the one thing Democrats aren't allowed to:
I thought saying Ronald Reagan was a human being was the one thing scumbag moonbats weren't allowed to say.
Oh well I guess they are forbidden by their masters to give Reagan even the slightest praise or offer even the slightest criticism of that sexual predator known as slick willie.
13 - Clavos
Thanks, B-tone.
You raise some very interesting points; I hadn't caught the correlation on the lie.
Dick Morris (who, admittedly, has a strong bias against Hillary) has an interesting take on Hillary's strategy for the SC primary; have you seen it?
14 - jacksmith
Bottom Line:
Like all of you. I know that health care is the most critical, and important issue facing the American people. Now, and in the coming elections. And like the vast majority of the American people, I want HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law NOW! "Single payer, Tax Supported, Not For Profit, True Universal Health Care" free for all as a right. Like every other developed country in the world has.
"HR 676:
For church goers: less money to insur. companies and more to the church- lots more.
Srs on Medicare: save way over $100/wk. Because no more medigap, long term care & dental insur. needed. No more drug bills."
But if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our current politicians to get HR 676 passed into law before the elections. We will have to identify, and replace all the politicians standing in the way of passage of HR 676. And, I think the best first place to start is with the politicians that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bills for the kids. Passed by congress twice.
But what about the President. It was Bush after all that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bill passed by congress to assure more health coverage for Americas kids. So which of the presidential hopefuls do I think will be most supportive of implementing the demand of the majority of the American people to have HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law immediately!
We have some very fine presidential candidates who would make good presidents. But none of the top Presidential candidates directly support HR 676, the only true Universal Health Care plan. So I am supporting Hillary Clinton. She is the only top candidate that has ever actually fought for universal health care before.
I have enormous admiration, and respect for Hillary Clinton. She fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds back in 1993. To prevent this disastrous health care crisis that is now devastating the American people, and America. She fought so hard for the American people that she risk almost completely destroying her husbands presidency. I haven't forgotten her heroic effort. If any Presidential hopeful for universal health care deserves my support, it's her.
Also, if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our government to give us HR 676 which we all so desperately need NOW! Then we will need the most skilled politician we can get on our side to broker the best health care plan for the American people that we can get. Though it will be less than we need, and less than we deserve. The politician I think to best do this is Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are probably the most skilled politicians in American history.
The insurance industry, and medical industry that has been ripping you off, and killing you has given Hillary Clinton so much money because they fear her. They have also given Barack Obama so much money because they fear Hillary Clinton. They think they can manipulate Barack Obama against the best interest of the American people better than they can manipulate Hillary Clinton. There is no race issue with Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are the poster family for how African Americans want white people to be towards African Americans.
As always, African Americans are suffering, and dieing in this health care crisis at a much higher rate than any other group in America. The last time there was any significant drop in the African American death rate was when Bill Clinton was president.
My fellow Americans, you are dieing needlessly at an astounding rate. In higher numbers than any other people in the developed world. Rich, and poor a like. Insured, and uninsured. Men, women, children, and babies. And we the American people must stop it. And fix it NOW! Keep Fighting!!! Never! give up hope. There are millions of lives at stake. Bless you all... You are doing great!
15 - Clavos
Baronius,
HUMBLE apologies. I of course know that you are not Baritone.
I have no explanations or excuses; only apologies.
Mea culpa.
16 - Baronius
I don't give much credence to anything Dick Morris says about the Clintons (or about anything else). Interesting theory of his, though.
BTW, this is the second time today I've been B-toned. He's the guy who disagrees with everything I say.
17 - Dan
I think Hillary got a good slap in with the inner-city slum lord connection to Obama. I'm not sure that Obama's counter charge of her being on the board of Wal-Mart will turn too many people off.
Slum lord vs. Wal-Mart.
There are reams and reams of nastiness these two can throw at each other. I just hope the race stays close enough to give them time to get around to it.
God knows a white Republican wouldn't get away with saying "Obama hasn't done the spade work..."
18 - REMF
"I think Hillary got a good slap in with the inner-city slum lord connection to Obama."
Yeah, all FIVE HOURS of it. Whoopee!
19 - REMF
"...which she had hitherto had very little association..."
- Clavos
Was the second "had" really necessary?
20 - REMF
I just wish that Barack would "accidentally" refer to her as "Monica" just one time. You know, like a Freudian thing:
"Um, excuse me Monica, Oh! I mean Hillary. Sorry."
21 - Dr Dreadful
My goodness, REMF. Three straight comments without a single mention of who served or didn't serve. What's up with you tonight?
22 - troll
Morris is another one of Bill's used and abused 'lovers' -
in the RCP article he says: *Obama has done everything he possibly could to keep race out of this election.*
but (absurd questions about degrees of blackness aside) I first caught a serious glimmer of the race card in Obama's Iowa victory speech where he patted voters on their collective head for being ready to vote black...er 'for change' that is
23 - Clavos
Ah, troll, ever the skeptic/cynic.
I like that about you.
24 - Michael J. West
Fascinating analysis but I'm not sure I agree. We are, after all, still talking about the Democratic party here, more than the general electorate...and there's a very interesting article in the Washington Post today about how the Democrats have begun to turn away from Hillary for her sheer nastiness and insistence on rehashing things that have already been discredited.
That said, I'm not sure it'll be Obama who benefits from that turning away. I think people are turned off by both of them squabbling with each other. This may, instead, be the thing that raises Edwards' numbers and keeps him in the race.
25 - Clavos
I saw that article, too, Michael.
I would hope that the Democratic voters would take a close look at the chronology of the squabbling before turning away from Obama.
One thing that does seem to have become crystal clear from the new Clinton tactic: Hillary is not running alone; nor, IMO, would she govern alone if elected. It's a twofer package deal; that's obvious, now.
Can't say I agree with your idea of Edwards being the beneficiary of the "turn off" from the squabbling. Most pundits consider Edwards to be a dead man walking already, and I agree.
It would be a real shame if the electorate tars Obama with the same brush that the Clintons so richly deserve, given that he tried very hard to refrain from descending to their level in the fray.
He should at least get some credit for that.