Cindy Sheehan's latest accusations of rampant rape by US Soldiers doesn't seem to square with the facts.
"Momma Moonbat" Cindy Sheehan has written a piece at Buzzflash where she goes on her typical anti-war, anti-Bush, anti-anything she does not agree with rant. The article contains, as does anything ever written about or by her, the information that her son was killed in Iraq. We are always made aware of that as if it is supposed to give legitimacy to her activities. Her protests stopped being about Casey and started being all about Cindy quite some time ago. I think Cindy is guilt-ridden because, as I previously pointed out, she is responsible for the death of her son. She is blaming it on Bush but that is merely transference, a simple way for her to redirect to someone else (in this case, George Bush).…
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26 - McNab
So you fell for that story about Saddam hiring the WMD Elves and their cousins the Underpants Gnomes.
27 - Clavos
If Sheehan was as fucked up and crazy
She's not. She's just pathetic and stupid.
28 - McNab
If Sheehan was as pathetic and stupid as the right wing Bush ass lickers think she is she'd be looking for weapons of mass destruction in Syria.
29 - Clavos
Oooohhh I love it when you talk dirty like that!!
30 - McNab
Don't forget to brush your tongue.
31 - Arch Conservative
I'd just like to remind all of you who think Cindy is some kind of spokesperson for all military families.
When she had her little camp casey stunt in texas she used the names of dead soliders on crosses to make her point. When the family members of some of these young dead soldiers came to camp casey to take the crosses down and ask cindy and her followers to please not use thier sons and daughters names in their protest the crosses went right back up after the families left.
this is all I need to know about cindy and her handlers/followers. She doesn't have respect for anything but advancing her own agenda.
32 - MCH
"I'd just like to remind all of you who think Cindy is some kind of spokesperson for all military families...Yada, yada, yada..."
- ArchBing
I don't think she's a military spokesperson, Archie. And by the same token, since you've never served, neither are you.
33 - Arch Conservative
I never claimed to be dumbass!
Cindy Sheehan on the other hand is held up to be some kind of hero by the radical left.
34 - Big Dog
"I don't think she's a military spokesperson, Archie. And by the same token, since you've never served, neither are you."
Technically, one does not need to have served to be a spokesperson for military FAMILIES. One would only need be a family member of someone in the military.
Another point is, being a family member does not make one eligible to be a spokesperson for ALL families just as being in the military does not make one a spokesperson for the military. My service does not make me a spokesperson for the military any more than Cindy Sheehan being the mother of a dead soldier makes her a spokesperson for FAMILIES.
Hope that clears it up for you.
35 - Clavos
Hope that clears it up for you
Probably not, BD. emmy will be back again with the same tired old refrain...
"Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of your life..."
36 - MCH
"Technically, one does not need to have served to be a spokesperson for military FAMILIES. One would only need be a family member of someone in the military."
Big Dog
Well, that would exclude ArchBing's parents.
37 - Arch Conservative
Do you ever have anything of value to offer to the conversation MCH?
38 - Arch Conservative
MCH chimes in predictably with "you didn't serve."
It's beyond his abilities to actually comment on the fact that Cindy Sheehan used crosses with the names of dead soldiers (they did serve MCH) even after the families of those soldiers asked Sheehan not to.
MCH and Cindy Sheehan are the same animal. Ignorant malcontents wholly incapable of seeing anything without the aid of their ideological prism.
Congrats MCH you win the BC lifetime idiot contributor award.
39 - Dinah Thompson
I think your,e a inhuman jerk. Apparently your morals and feelings on the human race are as low as Bush,s. He doesn,t seem to care who dies, he only has empathy for the fitest of fit and the richest of rich. Anyone else if they do not add to his ideas feelings or empower him with more money or power can exit off this planet. The few times I,ve watched you I thought you were Bush,s yes man or side kick.
40 - Big Dog
Dinah,
To whom do you refer?
41 - Donnie Marler
I believe she's addressing Bill O'Reilly.
42 - Dave Nalle
I'm pretty sure Bill O'Reilly isn't here...
Dave
43 - Arch Conservative
Big dog i think you meant........
Dinah:
From whom do you get your reefer?
44 - Big Dog
AC,
Since you put it that way, OK!
I only asked because a bunch of people have commented so it would be nice to know...
45 - RLA
thank you casey sheehan
and about your mother, I'm sorry
46 - Clavos
#46 is definitely a contender for best comment in this thread...
47 - Peter J
Clavos,
I think,, I hope, you're talking about #45.
He said what I was trying to say but in very few words. I wasn't trying to justify or vilify anyone here. (except the people who have surrounded this woman and are sucking off of her raw emotional state like a horde of vampires)
48 - Dave Nalle
The numbering got screwed up because someone deleted the double dose of dinah's off-topic comment.
And Peter J has it exactly right. The issue here really isn't Sheehan, who's a victim in many ways, but the people who are handling and manipulating her - agents of George Soros who are just using her and I think destroying her for their own partisan purposes.
Dave
49 - Clavos
I was, of course, referring to RLA's comment.
And what I was honoring was his tribute to Casey as well as the succinct way in which he expressed his point.
50 - Peter J
That being said, can't we all just agree to, in the future, rather than skewering this poor soul as a fucking whore and a leftist pig, pity her for her loss and how she's dealing, hoping someday she'll find a true friend who'll help put her on the right road to inner peace and Honor her for bringing in to this world and raising a brave young man who gave his life for what he believed in.
I don't have much belief in the way of religion but when my father died, for months he was in my dreams, I felt his presence almost always and I felt as though I was really getting to know him as I never had before.
It helped me deal with the loss. Like I said, I have no religion, (no church) but I think there is a spiritual connection with family. Just my thought.
If Cindy Sheehan could escape the madness of these heartless cretins she would find in herself that part of her son who is a hero telling her to lose these people who are using her, at the expense of her mental well being, and honor his death as a hero. I hope she finds that peace but I cringe when people viciously attack her so harshly
It's not her, it's the mindless morons who are using and abusing her.
51 - McNab
The lying, twisted, sicko polticians in the USA who send their citizens overseas to attack and murder the citizens of soverign nations should be the issue here. And the fact that the sicko politicians in the USA lied to their own citizens about why they should put on military uniforms and travel thousands of miles across the globe to murder men women and children that had done them no harm.
52 - MCH
"This is exactly what Ann Coulter was talking about in her recent book. The Left builds up some "victim" who then makes outrageous statements, and whenever someone DARES to criticize the moon-bat for her statements, people pop up and denounce them for even questioning the "victim" ..."
- RJ Elliott
And of course, Elliott's mother and father are another set of parents who will never have to experience the same situation as Cindy Sheehan.
53 - Mark in Canada
Cindy Sheehan lost her son. For that, the nation felt bad for her loss, but then she kept whining and saying how awful Dubya is for sending him to Iraq.
First off Cindy, he went there because he joined the Army as a VOLUNTEER. Second, he died because some people in Iraq seem to think killing Americans will make them go home sooner. Third, Cindy, your friends hate all soldiers, and had your son NOT Died, they would call him a baby killer. Tell me Cindy, was your son such an awful person?? Did you raise a psychopath Cindy?
I find the whole anti-war movement from the Democratic party in the US a bit of a joke. They voted for the use of force to go to Iraq, and John Kerry of all people voted for it before he voted against it. A classic libreal flip flop. Say you are for something until it seems that maybe your stance may not be popular with your friends. Having a princple means you stand up for it, you know, like standing up for democratic values in a part of the world that was run by a dictatorship. As for the WMD's, how about the US had to take out Saddam, because they couldn't afford to find out he had them......
54 - bladdblah
I would like to address some of the issues you raise here.
The way you present the Duelfer Report is very misleading. It says that it had "not found evidence that Saddam possessed WMD stocks in 2003".It also said that there was a "possibility" that there were some weapons,but that they were not "of a militarily significant capability." In an addendum added by Duelfer, he address the rumors that Iraq smuggled WMD across the border to Syria prior to the war. Specifically,he said that the scenario was "unlikely" but that the "possibility" of these transfers could not be ruled out. So,to reiterate, "possible",but "unlikely". given that there is zero evidence to support this idea,it seems pretty safe to say that this scenario did not happen.
If, indeed, there were large numbers of people/vehicles fleeing for the borders,would not an equally good explanation be that they were leaving so as not to get killed in the bombing that they knew was imminent? After, GW did announce to the world that we were on our way,and warned Iraqis to get out while they still could.
I have been to many peace protests,and they have all been,well, peaceful. Thats just my experience of course. Trespassing when protesting is an act of civil disobedience. Protesters usually expect to get arrested when trespassing;it is a method of calling attention to their cause,and hurts no one.
I not going to defend destruction of property;thats taking things too far.
As far as Cindy Sheehans story,it's an anecdote,not an accusation. It is a story she says was related to her,and that she apparently accepted at face value. If she actually did name specific people, then it would an accusation. And the "sheik" is used in many ways in Arabic. It can mean that one is an elder of the tribe,or an Islamic scholar(mullah),just to name a couple of interpretations. It's literally definition is a man of old age. There are sheiks all over the place,they are not necessarily all rich Middle Eastern royalty,as portrayed in Western cinema.
Also,it should be clear from this story that the "kid" feels like taking "potshots" because,allegedly,his mother was RAPED IN FRONT OF HIM and his father was BEATEN and TORTURED. Not because some imams are preaching hate towards the U.S. i'm not saying this isn't motivating some of these people,but I don't think that it applies in this case.
Further more,the father tells Sheehan that he will encourage his son NOT to assassinate Americans,which would seem to be a good things,since one assumes that might include the troops e have there now.
We of course have no way to know whether or not this story is in fact accurate. If it is true,it is certainly horrible. While I am certain that the vast majority of our troops do not engage in this type of behavior,these things do happen during wartime,and and Americans are not immune to it.
Also, there is no question that the United States has engaged in torture,which is appalling and,I believe, is both counter-productive to our long term goals and against everything that this great country stands for.
I am sure you will not agree with most of this post,but thank for your time,and your service to our country.
55 - Dave Nalle
given that there is zero evidence to support this idea
That's zero evidence if you discount the eyewitness testimony of the general who ordered the transfers and the pilots who flew some of the WMD materials into Syria. Give me a break.
Dave