Chambliss Victory Saves the Filibuster - Comments Page 3

Part of: On The Road To 2008

With the Chambliss win in the Georgia runoff Republicans retain the ability to challenge votes in the Senate.

Georgia Senator Saxby Chambliss is an unlikely hero for the Republican party. His record has just enough questionable votes on key issues to make religious conservatives nervous, but not enough strong positions on civil liberties issues to make libertarian Republicans entirely happy. He's often dismissed unfairly as a moderate, despite a record of fiscal and social conservatism. All that was forgotten when a very close election in Georgia put Chambliss in a runoff for what could have been the 60th Senate seat giving Democrats a filibuster-proof majority, reducing Senate Republicans to near-irrelevance.…
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  • 76 - pablo

    Dec 11, 2008 at 10:17 am

    Clavy 63

    I suggest if your going to use legal terminology you find out what the words mean, the courts thus far have ruled on "standing" which if fundamentally different than "merit". You as usual only give away your own ignorance on things which you do not have a clue about.

  • 77 - pablo

    Dec 11, 2008 at 11:36 am

    I couldn't help notice Nalle that you failed in your lame article to reference the republicans' attempt to do away with the fillibuster several years ago. If hubris wasn't enough, the sheer hypocrisy of you republicans never ceases to amaze me.

  • 78 - bliffle

    Dec 11, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Are BCers still arguing this story about the Obama birth certificate? That argument doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell. At this point Obama could be from Mars and it wouldn't make any difference.

  • 79 - Jet

    Dec 11, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    In the absence of anything intelligent to discuss, they entertain themselves with navel fluff.

  • 80 - bliffle

    Dec 11, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Isn't that your job, Dave? I mean, you made the assertion that the filibuster was such a Good Thing.

    "Is it important to save the filibuster?"

    #26 " December 4, 2008 @ 10:32AM " Dave Nalle [URL]

    Yes, Bliffle. And if you can't figure out why, go read some of the legislation which hasn't passed which was authored by Democrats over the last few years.


    The last good filibuster I can remember was by Jimmy Stewart. Wait a minute, that was in a movie!

  • 81 - Dave Nalle

    Dec 11, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Pablo, Bliffle. Find a place where I'm on record supporting the efforts of a small number of Republicans to discredit the filibuster. As I recall, that effort from many years ago was directed not so much at ending the filibuster as it was at highlighting how unreasonable the Democrats use of the filibuster was. The main objection being that filibusters are normally used for legislation, not to oppose presidential appointments. Personally I don't have a problem with a filibuster from either party on whatever basis. I think it should be used sparingly, but if you feel that strongly about an issue it's good that there's a way to express it no matter how outnumbered you may be.

    That is, has been, and will remain my position on the issue.

    Dave

  • 82 - Clavos

    Dec 11, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    @#76,

    I find it deliciously ironic that you excoriate my misuse of legal terminology in a post which is sorely lacking in the far more fundamental arts of grammar, spelling and punctuation.

    Amusing.

  • 83 - Dan(Miller)

    Dec 11, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    Bliffle says (Comment #38), At this point Obama could be from Mars and it wouldn't make any difference. That's probably true. After all, it is merely about a provision in the Constitution, which we can ignore when we feel like it. Right?

    Dan(Miller)

  • 84 - zingzing

    Dec 11, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    good god. he's from hawaii. has a damn birth certificate that says so. what the fuck do you want?

  • 85 - Clavos

    Dec 11, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    good god. he's from hawaii. has a damn birth certificate that says so. what the fuck do you want?

    Actually, zing, the SCOTUS is deliberating the issue tomorrow.

  • 86 - Dan(Miller)

    Dec 11, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Zingzing, in Comment #78, Bliffle suggested that were Senator Obama from Mars it would not make any difference. I said, sadly, that he is probably correct. Your comment #84 does raise an interesting question, however. Does Hawaii grant birth certificates to people from Mars? Or, for that matter, from Kenya? Not that it matters, of course.

    Dan(Miller)

  • 87 - zingzing

    Dec 11, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    well, ain't that just a waste of time? and besides, i thought they had already said they weren't going to consider it. or was that another kook's lawsuit? the state of hawaii confirmed that his birth certificate was legit months ago.

    so hawaii says he's from hawaii. there's a legitimate birth certificate for all to see. so what else do you want?

  • 88 - zingzing

    Dec 11, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    87 was for clavos.

    now dan, you know that hawaii doesn't issue people birth certificates saying they were born in hawaii if they were born in kenya.

    bah. this is totally pathetic and a complete waste of everyone's time.

  • 89 - Clavos

    Dec 11, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    Actually, zing, I don't care where he was born, or pretty much anything else about him, I was just telling you a fact about SCOTUS considering the question, nothing else.

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