Vote for Vermin Supreme - he'll take your internal organs and give them to the needy. Oh, and here are some NH predictions.
After my brilliantly successful (in attracting comments, if not accuracy) predictions on the Iowa primary, I'm ready to follow on with my prognostications about New Hampshire. For Iowa I did fairly well with the Republicans and totally missed the boat on the Democrats - too much confidence in Hillary did me in.…
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— go to most recent comments26 - RJ Elliott
Gimme a third possibility, handy.
27 - handyguy
I'm actually not inclined to engage in 'conversation' with you, since it always deteriorates so far and so quickly, because you're more interested in drawing blood and making insulting [though only rarely humorous] wisecracks than you are in having a real discussion.
I already answered this by pointing out that it's impossible for you or I to know HRC's state of mind; she could have been genuinely exhausted and stressed and really lost it for a few minutes in a sympathetic room.
Public tears by any presidential candidate have more negative than favorable potential. And a female candidate has to be extra-cautious about displaying anything that looks like weakness. HRC is not known for making risky moves. The past examples of Muskie and Schroeder would be very familiar to her.
28 - Clavos
Yeah, you're right, handy. I bet RJ just lost Barack Hussein at least a billion votes by publishing his middle name on BC.
Hillary is fond of using her middle name.
Is that snarky?
Of course, Hillary is trying to make the voters think she's her own woman; that they won't be giving Slick Willy a third term with the twofer...
29 - handyguy
RJ won't cost any Democrats any votes at all via any dumb joke or off-target attempt at wit.
But he enjoys lowering the general level of discussion around here, and there's nothing worth praising about that.
30 - Baritone
Third possibility: She's human, has human emotions, is likely bone tired and believes in what she is trying to do.
Cynics always seem to presume their superiority over anyone who displays emotion unless it involves some kind of hard ass bullshit. In politics cynics carry the presumption that opposition candidates are calculating disingenuous liars, while the candidates they support are pure as new fallen snow.
That Clinton became emotional, given the circumstance, is certainly understandable. All of her and her supporters efforts appear to be crumbling around her. It in no way disqualifies her from being presidential.
B-tone
31 - Clavos
"It in no way disqualifies her from being presidential."
That's what Ed Muskie thought...
32 - RJ Elliott
The Clintons must think that the Democrat Party's base is comprised of nothing but fools:
In the middle of a town hall meeting for Hillary Clinton’s campaign in Henniker, the former president interrupted his remarks to answer a cell phone call from his wife.
“Is that me?” Clinton asked the crowd, amid laughter, as he tried to answer the call. “Only Hillary has my number. It couldn’t have been anybody else.”
After he missed the first call, the phone immediately began ringing again. Clinton answered it again.
“I’m at your meeting here,” the former president said. “I’ll them that. OK " I love you!”
He then went on with his remarks.
Gee, that certainly strikes me as unplanned and thoroughly sincere!
As a commenter at the link said:
"Only Hillary has my number"? You mean Chelsea doesn't have her dad's number? Bill's best buddy somewhere doesn't have his number? Mark Penn doesn't have his number?
What the Clinton's don't seem to understand is after 7 years of being lied to on a whole host of fronts, the American people are tired of fake, poll-driven BS. Had Hillary just come out in this campaign and done some version of McCain's old "straight talk express", she might have had a chance here. But her and her whole team has been BS'ing us, and we ain't as stupid as we used to be.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, and I must be a Clinton supporter!
33 - Baronius
I think everyone's tired of the same old Washington insiders like Vermin Supreme.
New Hampshire has its own dynamic, and part of it is a protest against Iowa. They don't like the fake primary that comes before them. They enjoy tanking the occasional frontrunner. So even though I don't think it's going to happen, I predict a Romney victory. He's got the favorite-son thing, the not-Huckabee thing, and strong support among Republicans. (McCain's support is among independents, who may vote for Obama.) I can't imagine Paul and Huckabee combining for 22%, and the Republican votes have to go somewhere.
If McCain wins, so will Obama. If Romney wins, Obama wins so big that it becomes an Obama/Edwards race.
34 - Dr. Woo
PISSED OFF DIE HARD REPUBLICAN FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTES --- NONE OF THE ABOVE
Remember on the SATs you got a minus for the wrong choice --- so it was better to just leave it blank --- picking any one of these guys is a big fat minus!
I am not predicting anything --- but it is SO apparent that the never-right pundits are correct on one thing --- GOPers really want to choose "None of the above" from the laundry list of 'candidates' in the race. Each one of the GOP candidates has so much dog shit on their shoes, it really does stink around here. We should feel sorry for these poor mis-guided Republicans, the roosters are finally coming home to roost. And after Iowa, the choices look so much worse.
Let's take a look at the assortment of lost baggage:
Fred --- old, boring and completely uninspiring --- even to his own base. The great savior from Law & Order is more like the Creature from the Back Lot. Old bag Kate O'Beirne said Fred had "good conservative credentials" but what she failed to say was that Thompson just phones in his performances and really is just another tired and lazy actor from central casting. Heck, Reagan at least had his legs blown off in Kings Row, all Fred does is lecture ADAs. Is also probably not all that bright, but among these morons he looks somewhat smart. Bad communicator, tends to put people to sleep. Good chance he drops out after South Carolina if he doesn't do well. Main advisor is evil witch Mary Matalin, who will be unemployed and searching for another place to spew her bile when Freddie's dead. We would be better off digging up Ronnie and putting Fred in the casket. Has multiple chins and liver spots.
Rudy --- nasty, arrogant and condescending. The longer the campaigning goes on, the more the Judi and Bernie shit will hit the fan. Final straws seem to be the police escorts of Judi (whether paid for him or not, he paid a big political price), the 'mysterious' hospital visit in St. Louis and the fact he thinks Cheney could make a good choice for the vice-presidency. What the hell is he thinking?! Whole campaign is like an episode of Fear Factor --- and watching him is like the bug eating part. Married/divorced cousin. Own kids hate him. Announced divorce from Donna Hanover (who has been on Law & Order --- like Fred!) at press conference. The wind is out of his sail --- and is obviously resorting to farting a lot to get it going again. Betting the whole wad on Feb 5th --- where he thinks the big 'libural' states like New York, New Jersey and California will come to his rescue. Risky and probably bad strategy. MSM still hasn't figured out that New Yorkers only remember 9/10 Rudy and hate him. Would actually make George Bush seem like a diplomat if he was in office, and most people are beginning to see that.
Mitt --- empty suit, Ken doll and brings out acrimony like no person can. NO one likes this guy - not even his fellow candidates. McCain loathes him (based on the waterboarding answer he gave a few weeks back), as does Rudy. They completely ganged up on him at the final ABC debate. His final nail in the coffin will be if he finishes a weak second, but could stay on due to his deep pockets (deep due to having no genitalia, like all Ken dolls). His flip-flopping all over the place has Moveon.org drooling thinking about the ads they can run. Wears way too much Alberto VO5. The CorporateTM Inc. wing of the GOP wants him since he is one of them, but the Evangelicals, Ltd. wing (those two wings are starting to realize they have virtually nothing in common) hates the fact he is a Mormon. Represents everything that is wrong with America today --- corporatism, entitlement, elitism, fear-mongering, over-coiffing. Has five sons serving the country --- by driving a van around the states with primaries handing out Mitt bumper stickers. Not much respect for the Constitution as he would ask his lawyers about going to war before Congress. Gives good Powerpoint, not much else. Pundits loved his religion speech (which mentioned the world Mormon once), but the country yawned or downright hated it. So much for his Kennedy moment. So much for pundits getting it.
Hucka-bee --- affable, charming, upbeat and just plain batshit insane. Says God is guiding him. Practically says God is endorsing him. Takes the high road every time he opens his mouth so he comes across as the 'nice guy' --- something that is sorely lacking in any wing or member of the Republican party. And it works. Uses his preacher skills quite effectively, but is really Elmer Gantry. Hunts like Elmer Fudd and kills birds that won't vote for him. Son is animal abuser. Has ties to some nasty people on the religious extreme front. Is actually really stupid --- keeps flubbing international facts and events and like Reagan, laughs about it. Calls a press conference to announce he won't air a negative ad and then airs it (even puts it on YouTube). Claims floating cross in Christmas message was not intentional --- fooling absolutely no one. Drives people like Grover Norquist, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh crazy --- they HATE (or rather fear) him. The CorporateTM Inc. wing fears him because he talks the 'populist' talk --- and would raise taxes, but Evangelicals, Ltd. love him --- as one of their own. His nomination can potentially tear the GOP to shreds --- he truly is Damien with the 666 on his pate --- as bad things will happen to people who cross him. The rich Republicans will attempt to stop him dead in the tracks. Good odds he would lose all 50 states.
McCain --- the maverick who ain't, the straight-talker who ain't, the uniter who ain't. Biggest strength is that he looks normal, smart, mature and worldly against the other four. Problem is, take him away from those four and he looks regressive, hawkish and insane. Probably pissed off Brian Wilson as he changed the words of Barbara Ann to Bomb Iran --- on tape! What the hell was he thinking?! Thinks Baghdad is safe to walk around (when you have 80 guards and a vest --- sure), and keeps insisting the surge is working. (Violence is down, but we are no closer to any sort of solution now than we were five years ago). Thinks Americans wouldn't mind staying in Iraq for 1,000 years. (Somewhere we have heard about those 1,000 year Reichs before). Making nice to the Evangelicals, Inc., a group he once loathed --- flip-flop ads getting readied. Die hard Republicans hate him --- for a lot of reasons --- immigration, his vote against tax cuts, campaign finance reform to name a few. Looks really old --- really, really old. If he is up against the youthful image of Obama or Edwards he has a really really big problem. (Think Kennedy-Nixon 1960). Despite all the dog shit on his soles, many would vote for him holding their nose. Could pick Lieberman as VP --- the kiss of death. Did I say he looks old? --- has multiple chins and liver spots.
So there you have it --- NONE OF THE ABOVE. And to piss off Mr. [Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor] Dave Nalle, this hard-core Republican may for the first time vote for a Democrat --- of course with clothes pin on nose.
35 - Dave Nalle
I believe Dave is underestimating Huckabee and Giuliani in the NH primary. Of course, those votes will have to come from somewhere.
I gave Giuliani a significantly higher rating than he has in any current poll and gave Huckabee about the same as he's polling. I bet that on those two I'm pretty damned close to what we see tomorrow.
Dave
36 - Arch Conservative
If John Mccain does win NH it won't be by eight points and it won't be due to republicans voting for him.
NH republicans such as myself have no love for amnesty loving John mccain. He reminds me of smeagol from lord of the rings. he's a miserable, angry old man and I hope Mitt Romney kicks his ass all the way back to Arizona.
F83K juan Mccain!
37 - RJ Elliott
I couldn't help but chuckle at Dr. Woo's rant. Good comment!
38 - handyguy
With the possible exceptions of McCain, Paul, and Kucinich, you could write a long article about any one of the candidates and their disingenuous 'sincere' moments, just like their 'genuine' 180-degree changes of heart on issues that just happen to be front and center in their parties' primaries.
Rudy Giuliani had a famous fake cell phone call from his wife too, remember?
Complaining that a politician is insincere is like complaining that margarine doesn't really taste like butter. It's just part of the game. And it certainly doesn't belong exclusively to the Clintons.
39 - Dave Nalle
"His [Romney's] big score in the debate was on immigration, but it's an issue which polls show ranks lowest in importance among major issues with voters."
Evidence suggests otherwise.
RJ, your two examples are extremely specific question which really have nothing to do with how people feel about the relative importance of the issues. Here's a compilation of the 5 most recent polls on the subject of the relative importance of issues:
Iraq War: 22%
Economy/Jobs: 20%
Healthcare: 17%
Immigration: 11%
Terrorism: 10%
Here are all the recent polls.
dave
40 - Dan
Whether, Hillary's break down was sincere or not won't matter. The perception is she's a faker.
Isn't the NH primary unique in that independents vote? If so, is that reflected in the polls or Dave's calculations.
41 - Dave Nalle
NH republicans such as myself have no love for amnesty loving John mccain. He reminds me of smeagol from lord of the rings. he's a miserable, angry old man and I hope Mitt Romney kicks his ass all the way back to Arizona.
Good point. I forgot to figure in that McCain was the only candidate with an outspoken reasonable position on immigration. That might give him a bump in New Hampshire.
Dave
42 - handyguy
Wow, AC, long time.
Your guy's not having such a good month so far, eh?
The fact that Obama and McCain are popular with independent voters is one reason why they might well be the strongest nominees their parties have this year. McCain's worst problems, as Arch conveniently illustrates, come from within the less pleasant caverns of his own party.
And he seems to me just about the poorest example of a "miserable, angry" person one can come up with. His plain speech is usually pretty gently delivered, and with a wry grin. He doesn't smile as much as Smiley Mitt himself, but thank God for that.
And listening to him on Meet the Press yesterday, I was astonished that anyone can with a straight face call him a liberal. I agree with him on very little, but I respect the man enormously. If he were your nominee, I would actually relax a little. Even if he won, the country wouldn't be headed for disaster as it would with Rudy or Mitt.
43 - handyguy
Dr. Woo speaks with great wisdom.
He doesn't sound like the most typical of Republicans....some of those one-liners could have been penned by Al Franken or Stephen Colbert.
But they are funnier coming from a self-proclaimed GOP-er.
44 - Dave Nalle
Isn't the NH primary unique in that independents vote? If so, is that reflected in the polls or Dave's calculations.
Yes, it's taken into account in the polls and I considered it. They poll people who declare themselves 'likely to vote republican' or 'likely to vote democrat' as opposed to calling the party registration lists. Same methodology they use in the general election.
Dave
45 - Dr Dreadful
Your guy's not having such a good month so far, eh?
Well, he did win Wyoming, but only because no-one else bothered to campaign there. Wyoming, understandably, was probably not at all pleased about this and proceeded to invite the other candidates to swivel.
If he were your nominee, I would actually relax a little.
I have the same feeling, handy. He's the only one of the Republican front-runners the possibility of whose becoming President does not fill me with dread.
Mind you, considering his age and the very real possibility that he might croak while in office, his selection of running-mate if he wins the nomination seems of paramount importance.
46 - Dr Dreadful
I should clarify my above comment. The first part was responding to handyguy's remark about Romney and the second to his remark about McCain.
47 - Dan
About the only thing McCain has going for him among Republicans, is that he was right about the surge. Among Democrats, and many Independents, he's a comfortable consolation. He speaks their language. (Orwellian)
If he wins or does well in NH because of his popularity among independents, it will still be a wide open field for the rest of the primaries.
48 - Clavos
"But they are funnier coming from a self-proclaimed GOP-er."
Handy, you're obviously an
easy markhonorable gentleman. I've got some very nice land south of Pahokee I'd like to sell you...49 - Arch Conservative
John Mccain is the second worst thing to happen to the republican party in my lifetime.
The first being George W. Bush.
If Juan Mccain doesn't win a big chunk of the independent vote tomorrow, which it looks like he may not thank to that empty suit Obama, he is done.
50 - Baronius
Independents vote in NH, but I don't think it's unique that way.
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Dan, I've got to disagee with you. You say that Clinton is perceived as being a faker. That's certainly the perception among Republicans, but among her likely voters? I'm not sure. They might believe that she's just so darned ready to fix the country (sniff) that it tears her up inside.
Bill often used tearful eyes in his presentation, including famously while laughing on his way out of a funeral. Hillary's a very different politician, but she knows the trick and may well have tried to use it. Even Reagan cried in public.
51 - Dan
Dr Woo: "Remember on the SATs you got a minus for the wrong choice --- so it was better to just leave it blank --- picking any one of these guys is a big fat minus!"
Actually you only lose a quarter of a point. If you can narrow the field to 4 answers, you break even in the long run.
To not vote in the general election is a sure loss.
Dr. Woo is likely not a Republican.
52 - Dan
Good point Baronius, although some of that possibly misguided faith in Hill's sincerety may be eroding in direct proportion to Obama's rise.
53 - Lumpy
Frankly, if McCain is the worst thing to hit Arch's version of the GOP then it makes me want to vote for him because I like the real GOP not Arch's fundie RINO fantasy.
54 - RJ Elliott
#39 Dave:
You make a valid point about how the polling data I had cited did not show the relative importance of illegal immigration in voters' minds when compared to other issues. I will cede the point that there are a few issues that the American people are more concerned about (economy, war, etc.).
However, illegal immigration is still an important issue in the minds of voters, even if it's not the most important. From the polling website you linked to:
"Compared to other problems facing the country, how big a problem is illegal immigration? Would you say it is one of the most important problems facing the country, or is it an important problem but not one of the most important, or is it not all that important, or is it not important at all?"
11/30/07 - 12/3/07
one of the most important- 27%
an important problem - 54%
not all that important- 11%
not important at all - 6%
unsure - 2%
So, 81% of registered voters believe it is an important issue, and over one in four believe it is one of the most important. Also, bear in mind that this is a poll of all registered voters, and not a poll of registered Republicans or likely Republican voters, who would presumably be even more concerned about illegal immigration.
55 - RJ Elliott
"I have the same feeling, handy. He's the only one of the Republican front-runners the possibility of whose becoming President does not fill me with dread."
And "endorsements" from the two of you are just further evidence that the guy is far too liberal on too many issues to satisfy actual Republicans.
If McKennedy wins tomorrow night, it will be because independents voted for him overwhelmingly, not Republicans.
56 - Dan
"If McKennedy wins tomorrow night, it will be because independents voted for him overwhelmingly, not Republicans."
That's why New Hamp will just be a pause in the action for the Republican primaries.
To get a true look at the momentum, you could probably just zero out his share and proportionally add to the rest of the field.
57 - Dave Nalle
That's really not a relative ranking of the issue, because it's still being ranked by itself without comparison with other issues. I didn't see the specific poll you reference, but I found a similar one from July. Here's how it rated various issues. The percentage is the combination of 'very important' and 'important' ratings.
Global Warming: 57%
Health Care: 62%
Deficit Reduction: 61%
Economy/Jobs: 67%
Iraq War: 61%
Terrorism 58%
Immigration 48%
Again, rating FAR lower than other major issues.
Ah, wait, I did find your poll. It's the ABC/Bloomberg poll. They also asked about the issues on a relative basis in that poll, and here are the results:
War in Iraq: 32
Economy: 25
Health care: 19
Terrorism: 18
Illegal immigration: 15
So that would be a weak 5th place, less than half as important as the War in Iraq.
Dave
58 - Jonathan Scanlan
Just going on what I remember from the facbook poll (and all the stuff they had running during the debate):
Democrats: Obama
Republican: Paul
Both with staggering leads.
Now, I checked the stats on this, to see that the voter support for each candidate was across age and sex demographics, and they were in both cases.
Actually, from what I read about those stats, that seems the most consistent result from state to state. Iowa being the exception rather than the rule.
Also of note, in the Facebook stats most people voted that they wanted to hear more about the economy, and from what I saw, Paul seemed to the only one who was really talked about it.
59 - Dan
Paul wins in a landslide then. That'll shake things up.
60 - Arch Conservative
Yeah Ron Paul will win NH when Bill stops cheating on Hillary.
61 - RJ Elliott
"So that would be a weak 5th place, less than half as important as the War in Iraq."
Right. So out of the virtually infinite number of possible issues voters could be concerned about, illegal immigration is the fifth most important one, according to that poll.
How exactly is that "weak" ???
62 - Arch Conservative
How the fuck is global warming more imprtant than illegal immigration?
63 - Jonathan Scanlan
Here's the link to the facebook stats...
I should also note that one problem with facebook stats is that, according to the BBC a few months ago, there is a class divide between social networking sites. Facebook runs from middle class up, and myspace runs from middle class down.
Shat said, I would be more likely to rely on facebook stants than myspace.
64 - RJ Elliott
Hilarity.
Manchester, New Hampshire - A wild mob of Ron Paul supporters descends on Sean Hannity, and begin chanting slogans denouncing him and FOX News. If they'd had some rope, there might have been a lynching.
I love politics.
65 - STM
RJ: Manchester, New Hampshire - A wild mob of Ron Paul supporters ... "
Did they have beards, long, greasy grey hair, camouflage pants, pick up trucks, and Vermont plates??
66 - STM
Gotta watch them black helicopters.
67 - Zedd
Dr. Woo
That was amazing! I concur.
I would have voted for McCain before he sold his soul to the devil a few years back. Now hes all peeling and looking weird and Faustian. Whats up with that?! He is running on the man he used to be. Too bad
Romney is just slimy. He wants it too much and acts as if he deserves it. Whatever Ken!! Enough about the Olympics already. They sucked anyway. Did everyone forget? And the CEO thing... it's not the 80's. No one cares.
Giuliani? Just lacking on all fronts. His career was over when 911 hit. All of a sudden all of the simple minds thought he was heroic because... who knows. What was he supposed to do dance on ground zero. He did nothing heroic or unifying. People just got caught up. We are done grieving. Times up Rudy. Back to regained your jerk status.
Huckabee - I like him. His not perfect, YEAH! He is a bit kooky, YEAH again!! He is goofy and smart. Oh my goodness, he is smart. Go figure. I'd be willing to test him out. Its weired that he's not all dumb and cheesily spun like all Republicans have to be these days. A genuine, not heroic, not weirdly patriotic, none business school drone, who doesn't hate everyone who is not like him, who doesn't invoke prayer or FAMILY into every sentence, person who is a Republican. Whats up with that?
Thompson - whats that all about? Okay I am encouraged by the attempt at his age. But otherwise... alrighty then.
68 - Dave Nalle
Thompson - whats that all about? Okay I am encouraged by the attempt at his age. But otherwise... alrighty then.
At his age? Despite the wrinkles, he's not all that old. He's only 64. Almost a decade younger than Paul and 6 years younger than McCain. He's only slightly older than Giuliani, and as past presidents go he's not terribly old either.
As for intelligence, he far outshines Huckleberry. I'm not really a Thompson supporter, but his command of the facts is astonishing compared to most of the other candidates.
Dave
69 - Arch Conservative
Yeah Thompson would be great if he hadn't been half assing it the whole time.
70 - Dan
"How the fuck is global warming more imprtant than illegal immigration?"
That was my take as well. 57% to 48%. You know that's whacked. Nalle say's those percentages were a combination of the top two choices of importance.
My estimate would be that about 7% of normal people place importance on global warming. If you're polling just college campuses that Al Gore has visited recently you might get to the 57%.
The two issues are also distinct in another way.
People who aren't freaking out over Global warming, are going to tell the polster "unimportant".
But people who aren't freaking out over illegal aliens are more likely to be enthusiastic about the prospect of amnesty. Amnesty and beyond, even.
So, both the people who are freaking, and the people who can't get enough of it, are motivated to check "important".
Which makes it far more likely that illegal immigration is a higher priority than Global Warming.
71 - handyguy
It seems impossible for our conservative friends here to imagine that anyone might actually hold a different set of opinions and priorities than their own. If they continue to be exposed to the opinions of others, their heads may explode or something.
And Dan and RJ and Arch continue the preposterous claim that John McCain is a liberal. Beyond his [extremely moderate and sensible] position on immigration reform and his [noble but flawed] attempt to remove the soul-deadening, corrupting importance of money from politics, how on earth is he a liberal? Just because he's not a fire-breather? Giuliani I could see classifying as a social moderate-to-liberal. But John McCain is practically Ronald Reagan on most issues, especially defense-related.
I think it's just the fact that liberals such as Dr. Dreadful and I respect the man. If we respect him, he can't possibly be trusted, right? But we respect him for his no-bullshit integrity, his plain talk, his anti-politics brand of politics. Not because we agree with him on very much of anything. We have dealt with seven years of an administration full of liars and pretenders. That's why he would be refreshing.
[I think he would lose against Obama anyway, and maybe against Clinton too. But an Obama-McCain contest might well be the least depressing one in a long time. Any would-be Swift-boaters would just be shouted down or ignored.]
72 - RJ Elliott
Almost certainly another Clinton plant here.
Boy, she's really going hard after the female sympathy vote.
73 - Clavos
Both of 'em are yawners...
74 - Debrar
This is from Rush Limbaugh:
Iowa is a caucus; it’s a weird setup. New Hampshire allows independents to vote in the Republican primary, which is why McCain is doing as well as he is doing, and it’s why the media want this to be a bellwether against Romney. I mean, Pat Buchanan came in second. He came in a very strong second in New Hampshire in 1992. Now, I’m not saying that these contests are not to be taken seriously here, and that they’re not to be fought and to be won, but we don’t want to get ahead of ourselves. New Hampshire is no longer the conservative barometer it used to be. The state has changed, it is now quite liberal. A lot of people who used to live in Massachusetts have moved into New Hampshire to escape New Hampshire’s high taxation and other problems. New England generally the northern states, states like Iowa, is not where the conservative base resides in large numbers. The Drive-By Media would love to destroy the conservative coalition. They would love to destroy the conservative base to the Republican Party. That’s why they are promoting Huckabee; it is why they are promoting McCain.
75 - handyguy
Tom Brokaw claimed tonight that he was hearing mostly negative reactions from women to Hillary's tears. Not because they thought she was faking, but because they felt let down by her giving in to a sexist cliche - the overemotional, weak sister.
I know my opinion on this subject won't count for much on here, but watching the full clip on TV tonight, I thought, if she's faking, she should give up politics and go into acting. She should win an Oscar. The tears were low-key and spontaneous, and accompanied by words that were really touching:
"I just don't want to see us fall backward as a nation. I mean, this is very personal for me. Not just political. I see what's happening. We have to reverse it. Some people think elections are a game: who's up or who's down. It's about our country. It's about our kids' future. It's about all of us together. Some of us put ourselves out there and do this against some difficult odds. We do it because we care about our country. This is one of the most important elections we'll ever face. I just believe……so strongly in who we are as a nation. I'm going to do everything I can to make my case, and then the voters get to decide."