California's Supreme Court upholds Proposition 8, but leaves 18,000 gay marriages in force.
On Tuesday the California Supreme Court voted to uphold the ban on same-sex marriage approved in November of last year by a referendum of California voters on Proposition 8. Softening the blow slightly, they ruled that about 18,000 gay couples who were married before the law took effect will remain legally married.…









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126 - roger nowosielski
I leaning to thinking that the notion of incest becomes vacuous in gay relationships/marriage. It's no longer the same.
127 - zingzing
true, but we've gone beyond the rationalizing stage. we know what's behind it. but, even absent the rationalization, we still have a deeply-rooted and inescapable taboo.
128 - zingzing
#127 was for #124.
as for #125, i guess we are in agreement then...
129 - Clavos
Didn't I say that, zing?
130 - zingzing
say what?
131 - Clavos
129 was in response to 127
132 - zingzing
yeah, but that's what i've been saying, and i didn't see your previous comment until i had already published that one. fast n bulbous, they come today.
133 - roger nowosielski
Consider 126: to add a reason.
If "incest" is to continue to function in a forceful way in our language, it can't be diluted to situations where it doesn't really matter.
The "deeply-rooted in inescapable taboo" you're referring to is a vestige of morality. And it's part of our everyday language. Difficult to uproot.
134 - Cindy
Bar,
I am almost done with an article I'm writing in response to the article you linked to. So, I won't comment on it here.
135 - Cindy
#93
Roger,
Thank you for that wonderful article. It was good enough to make me cry. Not only that, but it gave me some ideas about the style I'll want to use in writing about certain ideas. So, where I had a blank I have a guide now.
136 - M a rk
Technicality:
If articles published in the Politics section are not clearly labeled review, opinion, interview, satire or news, what's the point of having to chose an Article Type when submitting a piece? imo the distinction between news and opinion (at least) is an important one and should be made clear to readers.
137 - roger nowosielski
See what you mean, Mark. He did manage to sneak in "the tyranny of the majority" towards the end. Couldn't help himself.
138 - Cindy
Oh good, Mark is still alive. I thought I threw the grapefruit too hard.
139 - M a rk
Hi Cindy. Here in northern NM, the last of the snow is off the north slope of the Picuris Mtns -- time to plant.
140 - Cindy
Ah nice...Mark. So, that is how you decide when to plant. The old-fashioned way.
141 - Cindy
Here in NJ, we go straight from clouds of swarming gnats, quick close the door season, into gypsy moth caterpillar season. It's a very itchy season, whether merely imagining them dropping into you hair or actually finding them inside your shirt. It can be a very noisy, everyone comes running to see what all the shrieking is about season too, when you do.
142 - M A rk
Ah, the sounds of nature...
143 - Dan(Miller)
Mark -- Comment #136
I agree that the articles should be categorized, as they were back in the good old days. Until that happens, maybe we should just include the category at the beginning of the title, e.g. "NEWS: World Come to an End."
When all else fails, self-help can sometimes work.
Dan(Miller)
144 - Clavos
Dan (and anyone else),
While a seemingly good idea, for SEO reasons article titles cannot be prefaced by the article type.
Please, just be patient; all good things come to he who waits.