Bush began his Iraq speech with an admission of failure and two major mistakes, and it went downhill from there.
The new Iraq plan looks a look like the old plan. And I expect it to work about as well. First, two reference links: The speech, and the fact sheet.…
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76 - D'oh
First linkage of the day is for troll...what would we do without him guarding the bridge of fact checking?
the Tao of D'oh
77 - Dave Nalle
I don't understand why D'oh keeps linking to poorly recorded music videos as some sort of commentary. Clearly too subtle for me.
Here's a link which might actually be helpful, to Iraq the Model where the writers who are actually in Baghdad, as opposed to sitting in a cubicle in some US office on their spotty behinds. If you look at the first article, you'll find a translation from Al Sabah newspaper about the terrorist flight from Baghdad and into Syria, with another link about terrorists fleeing to the Iranian border.
Dave
78 - D'oh
Obviously too subtle, but that's ok, I don't do it for you.
And we asked specifically for credible sources, NOT some rants on blogspot that links to other, questionable sources.
troll's link fu > yours
theTao of D'oh
79 - Dave Nalle
The questionable source is the largest circulation newspaper in Baghdad. What do you want, a signed letter from al Zawahiri?
Here's another link to an article based on information from a US intelligence officer in Iraq.
And here's an article on the same subject from The New York Sun, which also addresses the general issue of insurgent morale.
Sorry I don't haave a clever video link to go with it.
Dave
80 - troll
I see Vox...what politicians and spinmiesters are calling flight from Baghdad military strategists might call repositioning troops as in the quote from al-Sabah: *experts consider this a failure in protecting the plan's secrecy*
but thanks for the links...I couldn't find much of anything
81 - Dave Nalle
The links are what they are. There appears to be some debate over whether the leak of the date of the offensive in Baghdad was intentional or not. Personally I find the decision to start shooting Iranian agents on sight far more interesting.
Dave
82 - Martin Lav
"[Edited. Knock it off Martin, you know better than that. Comments Editor]"
Mr. Rose et all.....
My comment of "get the F out" was not directed to our dear Mr. Nalle, it was meant to speak to the US military in Iraq, that they should get the FUCK out and
GIVE PEACE A CHANCE
Sincerely yours.....
83 - D'oh
Vox, your first link is to the pajama place, another set of bloggers, that was a reference in your previous comment's link.
Nice try, but two bloggers sourcing each other does not a reliable account make.
As for the local Iraqi papers and such, it has already been widely reported and properly sourced that the military is paying people for press and articles and blogs and the like, as part of psyops/propaganda military operations.
Goes a long way towards explaining why ANYONE trying to get an accurate picture there is in for some serious difficulties, and why folks like me ask for source material to look at.
The NY Sun editorial is a bit better, but it's all opinion, none of the facts are sourced in the editorial, and the piece itself is clearly labeled opinion, not vetted news.
Just for you, Vox.
84 - Nancy
I'm glad you specified that 'Pajama Place' is another set of bloggers; for a moment I thought ol' VP had accidently hit the wrong button & sent one of his Favorites instead.
85 - Christopher Rose
If that's the case Martin, I erred and apologise. Sure didn't seem like it at the time though.
86 - Martin Lav
"If that's the case Martin, I erred and apologise."
No worries, apology accepted.
"Sure didn't seem like it at the time though."
You're mistaken, you said you were mistaken, just leave it at that, but I can understand that one would think this based on the level of frustration that Dave Nalle's "flip-flopping" would evoke in people.
Thanks
87 - SHARK
Vox, got any links to cute photos of adorable Iraqi children holding "art exhibits"?
xxoo
Haley Mills
88 - SHARK
Message #3:
SHARK wrote:
"BTW: I'm going out on a limb here; I predict that within the next two weeks (Jan 20 by my estimation) -- we will see the start of the Iraqi version of the 1968 TET OFFENSIVE."
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Mon. Feb. 13, 2007
(AP) "John McCain said Monday he fears an offensive by Iraqi insurgents similar to the Tet Offensive by the Viet Cong that sent US casualties soaring in Vietnam..."