Bob Barr Wins Texas! - Page 2

This situation does raise important questions about the issue of ballot access and unreasonable measures taken by some states against third party and independent candidates. As events unfold in Texas, the Barr campaign has been fighting for ballot access in a number of states, including states with strong Libertarian constituencies, like West Virginia and Maine which have very early election deadlines or extremely challenging filing requirements, usually requiring huge numbers of voter signatures. Barr is currently on the ballot in 41 states and expects eventually to be listed in 48 states, at considerable expense, and after filing lawsuits in several cases.

As usual, the Libertarian Party will be on the ballot in more states than any other third party, and will be running far more more local candidates than anyone but the two big parties. Barr is currently polling at 6% nationwide, and in double digits in some states, according to the latest Zogby poll. That a party and candidate with this much support should be having trouble getting on the ballot in many states, and will likely not be included in any of the presidential debates, raises serious concerns about the stranglehold which the two incumbent parties have on the electoral process.

The bizarre situation in Texas ought to be sending us all a message. If the major parties can't even file properly under their own electoral rules, then perhaps it's time to make those rules more reasonable and open up the electoral process to give the people more of a voice.

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Dave Nalle has been a magazine editor, freelance writer, capitol hill staffer, game designer and taught college history for many years. He is Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus, working to promote liberty in the GOP. …

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  • 1 - Silas Kain

    Aug 28, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    That a party and candidate with this much support should be having trouble getting on the ballot in many states, and will likely not be included in any of the presidential debates, raises serious concerns about the stranglehold which the two incumbent parties have on the electoral process.

    Dave, your words inspire me. I have my concerns. I raise them over and over again. We've got a system that is not flawed, it's impotent. Obama tells us we're the envy of the world. We're not. If I were Mr. Barr I would demand a U.N. appointed group of independent observers come Election Day. We've had no problem imposing our "independent observers" across the globe to enforce fair elections. What a joke. We're trotting across the globe trying to insure fair equitable elections when we haven't a clue on how to administer a fair election in these United States of America.

  • 2 - Dave Nalle

    Aug 29, 2008 at 12:13 am

    Well, we may be the envy of the world, but not for our deeply fucked up electoral system. And the irony is that NONE of these screwed up procedures are specified in the Constitution and they could be changed, redesigned or done away with if there was any real effort at reform. Only the electoral college system - which I don't really have a problem with - is Constitutionally required. The current mess is the direct product of the 'baneful effects of the spirit of party' which Washington warned us about 212 years ago. The parties are NOT our government, even if they think that they are.

    Dave

  • 3 - Clavos

    Aug 29, 2008 at 12:27 am

    The only people in the world who envy us these days are Third World wretches like the Cubans who risk their lives crossing the Florida Straits in inner tubes, and the poverty-stricken Latin American campesinos sneaking across the border.

    Nobody in the First World envies US anymore; most of them are better off than we are.

  • 4 - RJ Elliott

    Aug 29, 2008 at 2:24 am

    Oh, I'm fairly certain McCain and Obama will find their way onto general election ballots in Texas come November. But this is still an interesting story. Thanks for the info, Dave.

    "Nobody in the First World envies US anymore; most of them are better off than we are."

    I fully disagree with this. While Democrats talk of "the Bush recession" (despite a respectable 3.3% GDP growth last quarter), much of the rest of the First World appears to be headed towards a full-blown recession.

    From The Economist (dead-tree edition):

    GDP growth, percent change on previous quarter, at an annual rate, for the second quarter of 2008:

    Japan -2.4%
    Canada -0.3%
    The EU (total) -0.8%
    France -1.2%
    Germany -2.0%
    Italy -1.1%
    The Netherlands -0.2%
    Denmark -2.4%
    Sweden -0.1%
    Singapore -6.6%
    The UK +0.8%
    Spain +0.4%
    UNITED STATES +1.9 (and this was before the revised, and upgraded, economic numbers came in)

    Yes, we certainly have our problems. And so does everyone else...

  • 5 - RJ Elliott

    Aug 29, 2008 at 2:33 am

    Dave,

    I was frankly shocked at some of those poll numbers listed in the article you linked to. Who knew Bob Barr was so popular in Ohio, of all places? (Nevada and New Hampshire make more sense to me.)

    I still don't believe he'll get more than 3% or so nationally, unless McCain chooses Lieberman or some other Democrat as his running mate. But even a small percentage could flip Ohio, New Hampshire, and/or Nevada to Obama. Troubling stuff.

  • 6 - Dave Nalle

    Aug 29, 2008 at 2:43 am

    Troubling, but also encouraging. If he does raise Libertarian numbers substantially, that will encourage them to continue to go more mainstream and become more of a viable party. Maybe 4 or 8 years down the road with Jeff Flake or Mark Sanford as their nominee they might become real contenders.

    BTW, RJ only alluded to it, but here in the middle of a supposed 'recession' the GDP was up 3.3% for the last quarter. Very bad news for the Dems desire to run on an economic doom and gloom message.

    Dave

  • 7 - RJ Elliott

    Aug 29, 2008 at 2:51 am

    "Troubling, but also encouraging. If he does raise Libertarian numbers substantially, that will encourage them to continue to go more mainstream and become more of a viable party. Maybe 4 or 8 years down the road with Jeff Flake or Mark Sanford as their nominee they might become real contenders."

    That would be a good thing, in the medium to long term. I'm concerned about the short term, though... :-/

    "BTW, RJ only alluded to it, but here in the middle of a supposed 'recession' the GDP was up 3.3% for the last quarter. Very bad news for the Dems desire to run on an economic doom and gloom message."

    Meh. Democrats and their MSM allies never allow facts to get in the way of a good doom-and-gloom class-warfare storyline...

  • 8 - Dave Nalle

    Aug 29, 2008 at 4:03 am

    In the short term we're probably fucked, RJ.

    Dave

  • 9 - Zak Carter

    Aug 29, 2008 at 7:16 am

    The differences between McCain and Obama are minimal, when you consider that both believe big government can save you from yourself, and that we can save other nations from themselves as well. I will not play along with the game of lesser of two evils, as I believe that is part of what has plunged this nation into the mess we find ourselves today.

    Please visit bobbarr2008.com and give liberty a voice in the Presidential debates and beyond.

  • 10 - Clavos

    Aug 29, 2008 at 8:46 am

    RJ,

    I wasn't simply referring to an economic comparison, but to the overall wellbeing of First World societies around the globe vis-a-vis the US, as perceived by them.

    I was responding to a line about the US being the envy of the world, which I contend is no longer the case; residents of countries like Australia, New Zealand, the EU countries, and the more developed Asian countries no longer envy US, because they consider themselves better off (and not just economically) than us.

    We are no longer "the envy of the world," except in our own minds.

  • 11 - Jonathan

    Aug 29, 2008 at 11:00 am

    Please read my article and Please click on THUMBS UP

    Also, the campaign is in need of money to spread the message of less government. Please if you get paid, please donate $25 today at bobbarr2008.com

  • 12 - Joanne Huspek

    Aug 29, 2008 at 11:56 am

    This is looks like it's going to be a banner year for voting your conscience.

  • 13 - Silas Kain

    Aug 29, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Conscience, indeed. Unlike Obama, McCain once again proves that he's a risk taker. On this, his 72nd birthday, he reminds those of us who once believed that it IS possible to go back to the GOP roots. The party of Lincoln has been ransacked and all but ruined by the Rove-led Bush machine. John McCain's choice, from the GOP perspective, definitely reminds those of us who have walked away that YES WE CAN! Yes, all of us who have been left disillusioned by the Bush years, we can take our party back.

  • 14 - RJ Elliott

    Aug 29, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Clavos,

    Okay, gotcha.

    But our wonderful European "allies" have been sneering at us and denouncing us for, what? Four decades now? So I'm pretty sure we haven't been "the envy of the world" for a long time now (assuming we ever were).

    But then, that raises the question: If not us, who? Cuba? North Korea? Red China? An aging/dying and impotent EU? A resurgent Russia? Who?

  • 15 - Dr Dreadful

    Aug 29, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    Why does it have to be anyone, RJ?

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