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• 1 - RJ

  Mar 08, 2005 at 8:17 pm

  Yep. Those Lesbi...er...I mean LEBANESE chicks are HOT! :)

• 2 - Dave Nalle

  Mar 08, 2005 at 9:24 pm

  The Isle of Lesbos is only a short boat ride from Lesbanon - how do you think all those hot chicks got there?
  
  Dave

• 3 - Eric Olsen

  Mar 08, 2005 at 9:25 pm

  the Paris of the Middle East, no less

• 4 - alienboy

  Mar 11, 2005 at 8:34 am

  to repeat a previous riff, maybe you could introduce democracy in the usa before telling the rest of the world how to do it. lol
  
  And better yet, sort out all your crony governments that also have large democratic deficits and the scandal of guantanamo.
  
  THEN, you might possibly have a (moral) case for starting on comparitive stranger nations that offer no real threat to the usa.
  
  THEN you would have all the respect and admiration that you currently think you deserve...

• 5 - Eric Olsen

  Mar 11, 2005 at 9:59 am

  what a peculiar perspective - do you see no cause and effect between US action/policies and this series of events?

• 6 - Dave Nalle

  Mar 11, 2005 at 11:44 am

  Alienboy is by nature incapable of seeing anything positive about anything in the US or in our foreign policy so long as Republicans are in power.
  
  If the same things have happened under Democrat leadership he'd be leading the celebration.
  
  His comment about 'introducing democrasy in the united states' shows right off that he's not rational and just spouting the usual leftist talking points position.
  
  Dave

• 7 - Richard Porter

  Mar 11, 2005 at 12:23 pm

  Eric and Dave
  
  I agree with both of your points of view and alienboy is way off as he has commented on some of my posts in a similiar if not angrier rant.

• 8 - alienboy

  Mar 12, 2005 at 1:54 pm

  It's always hard communicating with fixed mindsets, the level of preconception and presumption varies from the mindboggling to the offensive, depending on the relative extremism of the individual.
  
  That said, and taking you one at a time:
  
  1. Eric: Lebanon: new pres, pro-Syrian, voice of the street - pro syrian, sure it would be great to get the syrian army out, but to think that removes syria from lebanon is wrong. so the jury is still out
  
  Bush: the only noticeable change in his stock has been in how the amnerican media report him as being seen abroad. that is not the same thing as him actually being seen in a different light in Europe. Trust me, he's not.
  
  The usa DOES have a democratic deficit. Your electoral college system is just frankly weird. sort it out
  
  There are loads of structural problems in the world and many of them are way more serious issues, in need of far more attention and resources than the middle east.
  
  Nalle: ah, always the lazy answer, it must really bug you that reality is way more nuanced than your worldview. no matter how hard you try to stuff the world into your perception, it's just not gonna fit...
  
  I do not believe in Democrats or their European equivalents as a matter of course, nor automatically reject Republic-derived ideas. that would be so desperately mechanistic. And i've told you that before, so -5 points for pointless repetition. Refer to my comments above on the democratic deficit in the usa.
  
  Finally, Mr Porter. Well, frankly, i don't quite know what to say to you. Let's start by saying that my comments are genuine and sincere and not in the slightest bit ranty or angry. How you manage to keep projecting your ideas on to me is a source of puzzlement...
  
  To try and set the record straight: I don't think either the left or right political strands have all the answers. sometimes one side has the right idea, sometimes the other, sometimes neither.
  I am in favour of getting the job done and to hell with the politics.
  
  Seeing the actual conditions of a situation is a more hopeful position to attempt to resolve it positively than merely trying to apply some dogma-derived solution to it.
  
  If none of you can see the inherent contradictions of your current global political posture, things are never going to significantly improve.
  
  And the collective reactions of the three of you serve as eloquent evidence of the very presumption of which i spoke...
  
  
  
  
  

• 9 - Richard Porter

  Mar 16, 2005 at 1:46 pm

  alienboy
  
  "Finally, Mr Porter. Well, frankly, i don't quite know what to say to you. Let's start by saying that my comments are genuine and sincere and not in the slightest bit ranty or angry. How you manage to keep projecting your ideas on to me is a source of puzzlement..."
  
  Perhaps you are puzzled how you are drawn to the truths found in my comments. Perhaps you do not want to admit to yourself what is correctly happening in the world right now.
  
  I would like to know if the leader of your country (I am assuming you are not from the U.S.) has the same resume that President Bush has amassed despite having the most destructive attack on the U.S. in our history at the beginning of his first term in office?
  
  Despite this, he has been elected again.
  
  Despite this, there have been no further attacks on our soil.
  
  Despite this, he is the primary reason behind the dramatic changes in the Middle East and please do not forget what happened in the Ukraine.
  
  Despite this, there are now free elections in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and the Ukraine
  
  Despite this, there is freedom coming to Lebanon.
  
  Despite this, there have been positive signs of peace between Israel and Palestine.
  
  Despite this, the majority of the major players in al Quada have been captured.
  
  Despite this, the President is working hard on straightening out our Social Security problem while alsoo trying to restructure our tax code.
  
  When our President says he is tired and it is hard work, he is not kidding.
  
  Name any other leader over the last 100 years who has been so much a part of contributing to peace and freedom globally.
  
  Alienboy, your attitude and opinion smell of nothing more than jealousy, envy and fear. What are you losing while so many others are gaining?
  
  What have you done today that is so great besides irk a proud American?

• 10 - Richard Porter

  Mar 17, 2005 at 10:02 am

  and Alienboy,
  
  How great is the country you live in? It must be great tolive in a perfect society.
  

• 11 - Eric Olsen

  Mar 17, 2005 at 10:16 am

  Alienboy, the main thrust of this whole collection of posts is that ABSOLUTELY the tone has changed regarding Bush overseas. Look at what all these editorialists from across Europe and the Middle East are saying about him, that he might be right about regime change in Iraq breaking the ice toward democracy in the region. This is a drastic and dramatic change of attitude and perspective

• 12 - davy

  May 07, 2005 at 2:08 pm

  bush and blair
  
  are cowerds, yes lets send the
  
  troops to iraq, well let them
  
  go, for 6 munths, no way would
  
  these to mupets go. ,
  
  blair is in shit stret .over iraq,

• 13 - rose gentle

  May 07, 2005 at 3:42 pm

  how can we respect tony blair and george bush, ,thay have no honesty
  
  

• 14 - maxine,gentle

  May 09, 2005 at 1:10 pm

  it is good to see the smiel wieped
  of mr blairs face ,he has not got
  long to go now. and he is out ,of num
  10, .good by, he lied

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