Beelzebub and the Halloween season

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• 1 - Shark

  Oct 26, 2004 at 3:40 pm

  Hey, the whole USA might be on the brink of a nervous breakdown in every category, but at least we're um.. "safer."
  
  And with those trustworthy 200,000 Iraqi National Guard on the job, I feel that Iraq will be a victory soon!
  
  ...Oh, wait... make that 199,951 Iraqi National Guard... (and the day is still young!)
  
  =========
  
  Excellent essay, Yensid; pretty much says it all.
  
  And I noticed the sound of crickets chirping from the Right Wing of the auditorium.
  
  "LICK BUSH!"
  
  

• 2 - Marc

  Oct 26, 2004 at 7:37 pm

  Due to time constraints I'll only touch on a couple things. First your busniessweek link is dead. Secondly the NYT story you link to on the "missing weapons" was discredited in less than a quarter of one news cycle. Something the Times, even at this late date, hasn't corrected. From the NBC Nightly News:

  NBC News: Miklaszewski: “April 10, 2003, only three weeks into the war, NBC News was embedded with troops from the Army’s 101st Airborne as they temporarily take over the Al Qakaa weapons installation south of Baghdad. But these troops never found the nearly 380 tons of some of the most powerful conventional explosives, called HMX and RDX, which is now missing. The U.S. troops did find large stockpiles of more conventional weapons, but no HMX or RDX, so powerful less than a pound brought down Pan Am 103 in 1988, and can be used to trigger a nuclear weapon. In a letter this month, the Iraqi interim government told the International Atomic Energy Agency the high explosives were lost to theft and looting due to lack of security. Critics claim there were simply not enough U.S. troops to guard hundreds of weapons stockpiles, weapons now being used by insurgents and terrorists to wage a guerrilla war in Iraq.” (NBC’s “Nightly News,” 10/25/04)

  I'm still waiting for Kerry bedmates, the NYT, the Boston Globe and CNN to print a retraction or followup story. I won't hold my breath.
  
  Third: Kerry's service in Vietnam. As nothing more than an intellectual exersize I suggest you take this challenge and get back with us.
  
  Fourth: wasn't it just a few short months ago the Left and the Kerryites were all screaming about the evil Bush and his sweatheart deal with King Faud to lower gas prices before the election? Yea, I thought so, but now it's his fault because they are "too" high.

• 3 - Marc

  Oct 26, 2004 at 8:26 pm

  
  One more thing. This refers to the many Bush lies, how the war was conducted, and Kerry's claim the Bush took "his eye off the ball."
  
  From a Kerry interview of November 16,2001:

  I have no doubt, I've never had any doubt -- and I've said this publicly -- about our ability to be successful in Afghanistan. We are and we will be. The larger issue, John, is what happens afterwards. How do we now turn attention ultimately to Saddam Hussein? How do we deal with the larger Muslim world? What is our foreign policy going to be to drain the swamp of terrorism on a global basis? [Emphasis added]

  So what do we have here?
  
  Kerry advocating a "diversion" and possible distraction from the fight against al-Qaeda, less than 2 months after 9/11! And just as the battle for Tora Bora had begun
  
  Nah, I won't give him that much credit. The Baroque Candidate is just a political opportunist, that was looking to score political brownie points. And anyone that votes for Kerry because they think that Iraq was "Bush's distraction" is living in a world of spin and denial.

• 4 - Yensid Tlaw

  Oct 26, 2004 at 10:08 pm

  Man if you guys haven't got past the simple fact that these guys are politicians yet, you are in for a sore set of nuts! Do you actually think that you can't dig up some shit on any politician? These guys are politicians and you have to take them for what they are worth. I made my point the other day about Bush and his preaching. It is nothing more than politics man. You have to be blind not to see it.
  
  Anyway, regarding the Kerry comment he was no doubt responding during the time when the administration was feeding EVERYONE the lies about Iraq. If you actually think the members of the Senate sat down and scrutinized that intel -- DAMN again you have to be an idiot. These Senators got the executive summary of bullshit direct from the Oval office and they made their decision! Hell, I was for invading Iraq and dragging Saddam through the streets during this time. I of course have now seen the true facts (as has Kerry) and the decision was wrong. W? Yeah... W=Wrong baby.

• 5 - Marc

  Oct 28, 2004 at 7:58 pm

  "These Senators got the executive summary of bullshit direct from the Oval office and they made their decision!"
  
  First of all Kerry is the member (not the chairman, which he has lied about) the Senates Intel committee. As such he had access to much more than an excutive summary. If he used only the summary to make an important decision or statements, well, just who is displaying incompetence?
  
  Secondly, no rebuttal on the NYT story? What's the matter, even you have decided the story at best misleading, at worst a political hack job by the paper. Yet as the story has unravaled thread by thread the Baroque Candidate continues spew his misrepresentaions and lies about the missing weapons.

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