The Ashley Todd hoax is not a scandal and it is not an outrage. It's a sad and pathetic commentary on our political degeneracy.
The increasingly ugly and angry tone of the presidential campaign began to take on new substance this week with the emergence of the story of McCain campaign worker Ashley Todd, who claimed that she had been attacked and brutalized by an Obama supporter in Pittsburgh.…
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— go to most recent comments126 - Cindy D
He said that he would not take financing from corporations. He does
You'll need to fill me in on this one, cutey patootey.
He said that he would vote against the illegal wiretapping of American citizens, he voted for it.
Yes, I think I called him a horse's ass shortly thereafter, luvvy dumpling.
Okay, you've made your point. I guess he will say or do anything. Just like McCain. Just not as often, sugar cookie.
Al!
Watch your language :-)
127 - Franco
#91 " Dave Nalle
I had a boat in the 1980s. Thankfully I was able to get rid of it before it sailed me into the poor house. I do miss it sometimes.
I know what you mean and that is why I never bought one. I used to build them after I got out of high school working at Islander Yachts in Coasta Mesa, CA. Worked on the 32' and 36' installing all the deck fittings, teak hatches windows, cleats, lights, and whole bit. Used to use a product called Dolphinite to seal everything with when installing. Do they still use that Clavos?
The cheapest way to access a yacth if to reat one. We would rent them from owners who we did boat repair work for. The best adventure was to sail to Catalina once a year. Three couples for three days and split the cost.
Each couple was responsalbe to buy all the food for all three meals for one day for everyone and cook and serve it to the other two couples for that whole day. This way you did all the work and served the others for one day, and for two days you got waited on and served.
Each couple wanted to show off and out do the others in what they prepared and served. It was a blast. Great food, live music, booz, snorkeling in 30 ft of crystal clear pacific ocean, and sailing out to different coves and taking the diggy to shore and hike in hills.
The cost of renting the 42’ yacht for three days and having it only cost you 33% after splitting three ways, and the food, and great company, it made the biggest bang for the buck imaginable. Never have found anything that beat it, and it could still be done today.
And the best part of all was you get to hand the boat back over to its owner who is responable for its upkeep and mantance and he pays you for all maintance work you do for him.
You just have to love the free market!!!
128 - pablo
Here you go Cindy [Edited]:
"There's no question that industry loves Barack. As of March 31, UBS, the second largest bank in Europe, has given over $165,000 to his campaign. The Exelon corporation, which is the nation's largest nuclear plant operator, has donated almost $160,000. The investment Goliath, Goldman Sachs, has also fattened the pockets of Barack Inc. with over $143,000. Citigroup has given well over $50,000 with Morgan Stanley close behind at $40,000. Wall Street has Obama's back."
Obama Darling of Wall Street
See you later tonight [Edited]. :)
129 - pablo
Oh and Cindy?
You said:
"the CFR fails to note all their horrid evil deeds on the front page of their site, smoochy kins...
You might try Tragedy and Hope written by Professor Carrol Quigley, (Bill Clinton's self professed political mentor), of whom he mentioned in his acceptance speech at the Democratic convention.
[Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor], in it he lays it all out about the CFR. My hunch is however that your a bit too closed minded to ever pick up a book that challenges your naive assumptions about US politics. But I offer it anyways [Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor].
bye now Cindy :)
130 - Franco
Clavos,
I am not trying to dent your yacht sales in my post #127. We need those fat cats and big egos to buy them or my gig doesn’t work. :-)
Back in the 70's when I was building them in Coasta Mesa, CA, it as not a stuck up town like it is now. You would find people building yachts in the back yards all over town. I mean yachts. 30' and 40'ers.
Today too many plastic yuppies and botox bimbos complain about that kind of individualistly spirited yard construction. I never saw it as eye soar though, to me it was rather a charm of the city as most people did. Those days are gone.
131 - Dave Nalle
I rent a boat from time to time when I'm up in Maine during the summer. It's not cheap, but it's a lot more convenient than trying to deal with a boat over the winter up there.
Nice to see Pablo going off about the CFR yet again. Next it will be the Bilderbergers and some of the other apparatus of the imaginary secret world government - perhaps the gnomes of Zurich who tend Barbarossa's immortal body where it lies hidden beneath the Zugspitz.
Dave
132 - Clavos
I like your style, Cindy (#126).
The big one for me is his having vowed to use public money at the beginning and then breaking that promise. It was a clever tactic, but fundamentally dishonest
133 - pleasexcusetheinterruption
I freely admit that during the primary I was willing to support Obama if it stopped a Hillary Clinton or a Mitt Romney from getting elected. Then, well before the negative campaigning, I began researching Obama's actual beliefs and background and I realized that he was potentially the most dangerous and extreme candidate ever nominated for the presidency by a major party.
What the McCain campaign is doing is to try to bring that same understanding of Obama's background and beliefs to the general population. If you share Obama's beliefs and if you support him, then the accusations against him should not bother you at all. If they do bother you, perhaps you ought to think and learn more about Obama, because most of what he's being accused of is basically true. There's no need to make stuff up.
Dave
Name one extremist position you think Obama holds which should be repugnant to all Americans and demonstrate by factual argument how you know he holds that opinion.
If you can do this I will cast the absentee ballot in my hands for John McCain.
134 - pablo
Just so that you and I understand each other Cindy [edited]. I know you are not cognizant of your and my non-relationship. I will take the time out just this one time so that you will understand my attitude towards you comes from.
In point of fact, I treat everyone that I relate to whether it be in person or in the virtual world with respect. I do not patronize, condescend, ignore, or in other way treat other human beings without deference, until such time as they show me no respect. If you were to archive in google our very infrequent encounters on here, you will find that you cast the first stone [edited]. I can guarantee you that I will cast the last one.
The same goes for you Nalle, and Clavy. There are a few others on here as well, that have also been quite rude to me, prior to me returning the favor.
People such as Nalle, and Cindy remind me of how people have ALWAYS treated other people who are in ignorance and fear.
I do not advocate racism, misogyny or totalitarianism.
What people such as yourself Cindy [edited] do, as well as Nalle (even though you may be politically opposed) is make fun of a concept that you do not understand, and you have also not researched it.
You may have noticed Cindy, (although I doubt you have, and am quite sure you will counter with you never read me anyways) that I an be a very agreeable fellow, even if I disagree with a person fundamentally. I can also be a prick honey, particularly when a person chooses to denigrate rather than debate.
I was actually taught, and I still practice it. If you have nothing nice to say, then why bother to say it?
Google the shit yourself [edited], you will find that you cast the first stone. The same is true of you Nalle, and your bosom buddy.
I still welcome civil debate, and am more than willing to stop with the petty shenanagins. Take a good hard look around you folks. The world is falling apart at the seams.
This is my lame attempt at a truce, I won't offer it again, and will respond to derision with same.
pablo
135 - Jet
So... those tax cuts for the GOP that are supposed to "trickle" down to the rest of us actually go towards yaught purchases or rentals.
How did I know that?
By the way Pablo, you ranting and ravings aren't changing anyone's minds so give it a rest. The only mind you think you're changing has already decided, so you're preaching to the choir.
As a matter of fact all this political drivel on this website doesn't amount to a hill of unsubstantiated beans, because the tiny percentage of people who actually know there IS a Blogcritics can tell with a single glance of the comments section of each article that this is hardly a reliable source of political news or information, be it written by me, or Mr. Nalle.
Truth hurts, but there it is.
136 - pleasexcusetheinterruption
Pablo what exactly scares you so much about globalism anyways? Can you define the term for me?
137 - pleasexcusetheinterruption
As a matter of fact all this political drivel on this website doesn't amount to a hill of unsubstantiated beans, because the tiny percentage of people who actually know there IS a Blogcritics can tell with a single glance of the comments section of each article that this is hardly a reliable source of political news or information, be it written by me, or Mr. Nalle.
Truth hurts, but there it is.
It's still a valuable exercise in thought that makes one reexamine old opinions and change them if necessary. Well researched articles with reliable sources provide valuable information and the process of counterargument often results in finding the hard data/facts to back up your assumptions or modifying your assumptions if the data found is different than you anticipated.
138 - pablo
Again with Nalle, he had the audacity and rudeness to call me a nazi on this site. That is certainly no way to treat a fellow commenter, particularly when I have spent my life fighting both national socialism, Nazism for those of you that do not know what national socialism means. I am particularly sensitive to this issue because of my lineage which happens to be german.
I have offered Nalle several opportunities to publicly apologize to me (as he called me a nazi in public), he has chosen to decline this invitation at civility.
In all of my 600 some odd rants, I have NEVER advocated, endorsed, hinted at, nor embraced nazis, or any form of totalitarianism for that matter. Yet Nalle thinks that he can just come out (as the political editor of this site) and say such a thing.
I was googling one day on a phrase, I happened to land on a page that had a story from the NY Times that was pertinent to my political thoughts at the time, I without knowing the owner or opinions of said site, used the link for the reference to the NY Times story. Should anyone here doubt me, google site:blogcritics.org pablo AND nazi.
So Davey if you wonder where some of my rancor comes from, it aint your politics [edited]. Its your hypocritical rude behaviour that rankles me.
I am still waiting for an apology, knowing one will never come.
On a side note Dave. You love to make fun of conspiracy theories. I have no problem with that per se. However I made a point to you months and months ago, which you still have not addressed.
That is that you too are a conspiracy theorist. 9/11 was a conspiracy, that is a fact. More than one person planned and carried out a murderous attack.
You happen to subscribe to the official conspiracy theory, I do not. Instead of having different theories and debating them, or not, you accuse me of being something that you are too. Which quite frankly is dumb, and shows your fear and ignorance in spades.
Unless you were one of the conspirators on that day, you in point of fact, do not know what really happened. You can say that you do, but you would be lying. You have taken all the available information and digested it, as we all have. You came up with the conspiracy theory that the official government story is true. I reject that theory, however I am at least humble enough, and dare I say ignorant enough to say that I do now know to this day who actually planned and carried out the attack.
So there we have it. You have a conspiracy theory that you say happened a certain way 9/11. I say I do not know, but I firmly reject for literally hundreds of reasons the official story.
I wonder Dave, if you will ever be man enough to admit that you too are a conspiracy theorist. The day that you do, (I doubt that day will ever come) is the day that your mind will blossom instead of being as closed up and rigid as it is.
Just my two sense worth [edited]
139 - Jet
Dave Nalle must be banned from this site for calling Pablo a Nazi? WILL YOU PLEASE GET OVER YOURSELF?
140 - pablo
Jet 135
"By the way Pablo, you ranting and ravings aren't changing anyone's minds so give it a rest."
Aww shucks, Im just gonna take my marbles and go home. Wait a sec, I already am home :)
Am I not welcome Jetty? Should I pack up shop? Am I selling anything? I see Clavos trying desparately to sell a boat on here, but uhhh, I am not selling anything Jet.
I like to rant it public. Last time I checked I havent been banned. Until such time as I am [edited] I will say any damned thing that I want to. If you do not like what I say ignore me, hell I ignore most posts on here, not to mention most political obama/mccain article too!
You for some reason feel that you must say something mean to me Jet, be my guest, but don't cry like a whiner like you did last night when I return the favor. :)
141 - Dave Nalle
I have offered Nalle several opportunities to publicly apologize to me (as he called me a nazi in public), he has chosen to decline this invitation at civility.
Pablo, show me a quote where I actually said something equivalent to "Pablo is a nazi" and I'll apologize.
Dave
142 - pablo
pleasexcusetheinterruption 136
One moment please pleasexcusetheinterruption.
Oh Jet, apparently you did not speak for EVERYONE, how cute that you had the audacity to say that you did, and how rude.
pleasexcusetheinterruption,
You asked me what I meant by globalism.
This is a movement that goes back to the beginnings of the 20th century. A group of very prominent and rich individuals in Great Britain under the sponsorship and guidance of Cecil Rhodes started several groups that had a one world government as their aim. The most prominent one, although known to perhaps less than 1% of americans was called The Royal Institute of International Affairs, today it is known as Chatham House. Around 1920 a group of bankers led by JP Morgan came over to Britain and decided to be the sister group of the RIIA.
These groups agenda has always been the same, as laid out by Cecil Rhodes. This plan involved the US returning to the UK, and merging the world into a one world totalitarian state.
A prime example of their work is the EU, European Union. You will rarely hear ANYTHING negative about this empire on the main stream media, that is because the oligarchy that created it owns the media. Even today you will rarely hear of the fight that is currently going on to fight this tryanny. Ireland has refused, they don't care.
What they are doing is putting blocks together to make a house. One block is europe, another is the americas, and one is asian. They are merging these blocks to create a one world super state, where the individual has no sovereignty. No innocent until proven guilty. No freedom whatsoever, other than what the oligarchy gives to the serfs.
The main americans behind this group are Rockefeller, Kissinger, Haas, Woolsey, Feinstein, Gary Hart, Cheney, and quite a few more that I could name.
It is my OPINION that 9/11 was made to happen to further the agenda of this cabal.
If you would like more information pleasexcusetheinterruption, I would be happy to explain further, or put some links on here for your perousal.
143 - pablo
Dave,
Uhhh try googling the term as I already did [edited].
It is number one on google for that particular query, too bad I am not sellin nothing (sellin nothing is for online marketers such as myself that use keywords with pay per click)
Here is the quote right off of google number one for the search query google.com site:blogcritics.org pablo AND nazi
thanks [edited]
Oh Jet,
Did you perchance want to talk about national socialism too re comment 139.
Did I call you a fag Jet? I did not, but if I DID, and I was political editor of this site what would you do? huh?
I am sensitive about my lineage just as you may be sensitive about your sexuality, particularly when someone is denigrating you. Yes I dont like being called a nazi. Kapeche?
144 - Dave Nalle
Name one extremist position you think Obama holds which should be repugnant to all Americans and demonstrate by factual argument how you know he holds that opinion.
It's an impossible request, PETI. Obviously I can't name one which is repugnant to ALL Americans, because clearly there are some who share even Obama's most extreme views. I can point to issues like massive wealth redistribution and raising taxes on corporations and small businesses which many would find troubling, but obviously there's a constituency to whom these positions appeal. I can even go out and find way worse things which Obama can reasonably be suspected of believing and with how far out the more extreme elements of the Democratic party have gone, there will be a fan club for it.
Dave
145 - pablo
Jet 139 you said, not me
"Dave Nalle must be banned from this site for calling Pablo a Nazi? WILL YOU PLEASE GET OVER YOURSELF?"
That is a bald faced lie Jet. I never called for Dave to be banned from this site.
I did say that he should step down from the political editor job, and I laid out my reasons, and have not continued to publicly once I made my case.
I suggest Jet, that you use a bit more tact or at the very least honesty in your sarcasm, as nobody likes people that tell bold faced lies.
You can google from now until eternity and you will NEVER see my words calling for Dave to be banned from this site [edited].
146 - pablo
Dave,
I forgot to paste your nazi quote, here it is:
WTC7: A Conspiracy of Failed Sprinklers
"Thanks for straightening things out for us, Pablo. Now that you've openly declared your allegiance with the neo-nazis at TBRNews, we can stop taking you
147 - Jet
Pablo, the high and mighty attitude and the "how dare you speak to me in such a tone" is falling of deaf ears.
You're so damned full of yourself that you can't see reality.
148 - pleasexcusetheinterruption
What they are doing is putting blocks together to make a house. One block is europe, another is the americas, and one is asian. They are merging these blocks to create a one world super state, where the individual has no sovereignty. No innocent until proven guilty. No freedom whatsoever, other than what the oligarchy gives to the serfs.
How do any of these follow from a global government? Not even the most delusional federalist prior to the signing of the constitution would have believed the centralization of power away from the states would lead to the propositions you claim.
149 - Jet
Frankly, I hope the republicans win both houses back and the Whitehouse. Bush and his cronies have created a mess that we'll be suffering from for the next decade and I'd like to see the GOP get the blame where it should be, rather than a good man like Obama have to shoulder it.
150 - pablo
pleasexcusetheinterruption
I tried, your on your own.
151 - Jet
If Bush and McCain have such great plans to help our country, why aren't they being implimented now instead of dangling them on a stick in front of us until after the election?
because they don't exist or they don't work.
McCain loves to brag on TV that he voted with Bush more than any other senator.
Does writing a 20-page thesis in the comments section do any good?
Of course not. Only your most loyal fans/followers bother to read past the first few paragraphs, everyone else just wanders off to the next comment... and with good reason.
152 - Jet
IS ANYONE EVER GOING TO FIX HOW LONG IT TAKES TO POST A GODAMMED COMMENT ON THIS WEBSITE?
153 - pablo
jet 147
"You're so damned full of yourself that you can't see reality."
You bet your ass (ooops I did not mean that noun, sorry) I am [edited], and damned proud of it. I have spent the best part of 25 years studying political power. As for seeing reality Jet, you wouldnt even see them coming for ya as they drag you off to your re-education camp. Hell you would proly think they are your buddies.
I tell ya Jet, I do get a kick out of ignorance, your a real gem you are.
154 - Jet
Oh now that was a snappy retort! Came right up to the net on that one!
155 - Dave Nalle
Pablo, when you cite neo-nazis as your sources and express your agreement with them, you're calling yourself a nazi. My recognizing the fact is not the same thing as calling you a nazi out of the blue. So, apologize to yourself for making yourself look like a nazi and all should be well.
Dave
156 - pablo
Jet re 152
U OK JET??
I think you need a valium buddy. Chill dude
157 - pablo
Dave:
Is your brain functioning? I mean literally. I spent at least 5 times explaining to you in this and other comments on how and why I used that source. You obviously choose to be in denial, and it simply is not in you to offer an apology. Thats fine dude, just dont be surprised as my rancor continues.
Have it your way [edited].
Either way I'll have a field day with ya. ;)
Oh and Dave?
Thank you once again for showing me who and what you are, I never really had any doubt anyways, but thought I would offer the olive branch. It won't be offered again.
pablo
158 - jamminsue
Jet - not a bad idea, let the Republicans fix thier own mess. Except we can't risk that McCain will do the right thing and certainly cannot afford continuation of the wrong-headed borrow and spend policy of the Republicans, and the kow-tow to Big Oil. I am not sure if Obama/Biden will stand up to Big Oil, except they will be forced into it by circumstances, but hopefully will be more sensitive than McCain. Palin may touts "taking on Big Oil" but come on, her hubby gets his paycheck from BP. So how silly is that?
I have the weird situation of being liberal (and according the the Republican Mytohos, a spending madwoman,) wanting to curb spending, save the planet's ecosystem from excess (another liberal idea that should be a conservative one) hmm, maybe us liberals are really conservatives. No wonder we are so off-balance so much of the time.
159 - pablo
So essentially what you are saying Davey, which is exactly what you are saying, if i post a link to a news story, and let us say that is posted on say the National Review website, or any other site, that means that I now have an allegiance to that site and/or what they represent?
Are you friggin serious? No your not, what you do, and you do it on a FREQUENT basis is denigrate, or make an innuendo that is not true, as in this case, not only that your not even man enough to admit it.
I am gonna have fun with you the next few months [edited], I aint even got started with you Nalle.
Don't ever say that I did not give you a chance at showing some class.
You called me a nazi, I aint, and your not man enough to retract it. Fine, have it your way [edited].
160 - pablo
I also see Dave that you choose to ignore the fact that you're a conspiracy theorist too. Because if you ever had to admit the obvious as I clearly and meticulously laid out to you, you could not longer hide behind your hypocrisy. Like I said many times your forte is less than honest in your intellectual pontifications.
You claim your theory is fact, but we all know its theory, unless you were one of the conspirators. I just love calling a spade a spade [edited].
161 - Jet
You know what they say Dave: if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck
162 - Jet
Don't forget Sue, Palin's "First Dude" is also a separatist and want's Alaska to leave the U.S.
Not enough attention is being paid to that.
163 - Jet
Kinda makes you wonder how Pablo can drive with his left eye closed all the time.
164 - Jet
Pablo, despite how far your nose is up in the air, you're still only spouting opinions-not facts.
I kinda feel sorry for you, though I envy your alternate reality.
165 - Franco
#135 " October 26, 2008 @ 23:10PM " Jet [URL]
"So... those tax cuts for the GOP that are supposed to "trickle" down to the rest of us actually go towards yaught purchases or rentals.
LOL, you crack me up buddy, I am not kidding. That one had me chuckling for a good two minutes.
166 - pablo
Dave post 131 you said:
"Nice to see Pablo going off about the CFR yet again. Next it will be the Bilderbergers and some of the other apparatus of the imaginary secret world government - perhaps the gnomes of Zurich who tend Barbarossa's immortal body where it lies hidden beneath the Zugspitz."
Wow I am so glad you brought that up, thank you :)
Here are several links regarding the Bilderbergs for anyone that may be interested. For those of you that aren't, ask me if I care.
Bilderberg InformationThe True Story Of The Bilderberg Group
Thanks for reminding me Davey!
167 - pablo
jet re 134
Yes I am spouting opinion, and you are........?
Well if you envy me you envy me, but I can tell you that I do not envy you even a bit Jet.
As to my "left" eye, I realized a long time ago the left had been completely co-opted, I suggest you wake up Jet.
168 - Jet
Ohhhh he got me! Oh I'm dying, I'm dying. Oh but gentle sleep that doth not come, only to dream a dream of...
Oh Pabs you can have my train set from my youth and my highschool jockstrap-you needn't beg any further...
169 - pablo
I forgot this link as well about the Bilderberg Group.
More Bilderberg Information
Thanks again Davey for reminding me :)
ps Davey
I don't think you will find any nazi propaganda on that site. However they do mention how the founder of this evil group was a member of the SS in Nazi Germany.
bye davey
170 - pablo
Sorry Jet, I only go for used panties, nice try though :)
171 - Dave Nalle
Jet, give Todd Palin a break. I have this sinking feeling that a lot of us are going to be separatists before too much time passes.
Dave
172 - Jet
I've always suspected you paraded around in used panties. pink probably
173 - Jet
Dave, have you decided what country you're fleeing to after Obama wins? I understand Scotland's nice this time of year.
174 - Jet
Well, it's nearly bedtime and I have to drink some Milk of Magnesia, do 3 push-ups and play a game of chess with my computer.
'nite all
175 - pablo
dave 141 you said:
"Pablo, show me a quote where I actually said something equivalent to "Pablo is a nazi" and I'll apologize."
That's a pretty straightforward sentence, allow me to dissect it.
"Pablo, show me a quote where I actually said something equivalent to "Pablo is a nazi"
That seems clear enough, your asking me to show you a quote, which I did.
Then you say:
"I'll apologize"
Seems clear enough don't it?
It means you will say your sorry.
I do not see any other criteria, it is a two part sentence. Show me the goods and I will give up an apology. No conditions, not extras as it were.
What I got back however was typical Nallism. Bending the truth to fit your insult to me. Not only bending the truth Davey, but saying that I am a proponent or have as you put it "allegiance" to a site because I pointed to a NY Times story on said site.
I can tell you this bucko. I would NEVER do business with YOU! You also have shown publicly that you are not a man of your word, even better, thank you!
I have decided your my special case Dave. Now that you have not only insulted me, but lied to me publicly about simple redress for my grievance as you promised, I will not accept an apology from you for this insult.
Your my special case now, and I will dissect/argue and do everything that I can to respond in kind verbally with reason and debate, something you are entirely unfamiliar with. :)
Oh you can talk, you have a good vocabulary, and even a rudimentary understanding of basic history and our republic, but when it comes to reason or debate, your just plain smarmy dude.