Where has the rational left of the 60s gone, and who has replaced them with these hate filled monsters?
Recently, every time I've started to write an article about the situation in New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina and surrounding events, I've gotten a few words down and then become distracted by something I read while browsing the internet. I've come on statements like these:…
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— go to most recent comments76 - Bob A. Booey
Dave, now you're being paranoid again. "Thinly veiled smear"? That's political extremist talk.
"Anger and scorn"? Go back and look at what you wrote and what I wrote and tell me, honestly, whom that describes better.
I'll read your less-serious, non-political stuff later when I have the time -- I haven't seen it on the recent comments before because people don't seem to comment much on them for whatever reason. Take a deep breath and don't be so defensive :)
That is all.
77 - godoggo
Cripes, I try not to look, how I try, but it's like picking a scab.
Anyway, easy response: MaxSpeak, You Listen!: THE VICIOUS INSTAPUNDIT BLOGROLL CONTEST entrants and winners.
78 - godoggo
And, may I add, this divide-and-conquer crap won't work on this proud Bush-hater.
Dick.
79 - godoggo
And on that note, I would like to add, "Oopsy-daisy."
The "entrants" link above seems to lack actual entrants. Maybe a problem with the blog archives? A bit more google, perhaps. Anyways, the winners are there.
80 - godoggo
Nope, comments aren't archived. So sad. Well, click "Winners."
81 - kittygogo
Dave, you never did answer my point though. If you are so disgusted by all of this politicizing, why are you taking part in it. If it is so stomach-churning to read the posts, why are you reading them? Why are you defending Bush if you are not interested in the political aspect of this?
You are very much a hypocrite. I'm sure you will have some endless, fancypants, hyperbolic spin to defend yourself. It seems that you are much like Bush, who can't seem to acknowledge that we are ALL flawed and imperfect, yeah even you.
82 - John Bambenek
The arguments coming from the right at least are accentuated with facts.
83 - David R. Mark
I'm just glad I didn't make Dave's hit list -- considering all the times he's accused my factual articles of being "hate Bush" pieces.
Guess I'm not so evil after all.
84 - Matthew T. Sussman
Somebody stole the Blogcritics Shovel of No Return. We won't say who did it, but we're gonna turn off the lights, and when they come back on, we want to see it returned to its rightful owner.
85 - Shark
Lord knows that by settin' up his little digital soapbox and delivering this Bulwer-Lytton-like diatribe, Dave implicitly BEGGED for it -- so today's award for The Most Cinematic, Over-the-top, Monstrously Metaphoric, [P]sycophantic Big Wet Kiss goes to Dan.
Here, he describes Our Martyred Logical Genius With Offended Virtues, Dave Nalle -- who is fed up dealing with evil, mean, hateful "liberals" ---
Lights, cameras ~ACTION!
Dan: "...When I read some of the "vomit of lies, deception, slander and spite" that you [Dave Nalle] counter with facts and appeals to reason, I'm reminded of a scene from the movie "The Excorcist", where the excorcising priest calmly pauses to remove a handkerchief and wipe the nastily delivered expectorant from his glasses before resuming his firm incantations..."
Folks, savor the moment: it just DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS.
PS: You guys should get a room!
Thanks!
A Satanic Guacamole-spewing Liberal (aka Shark)
86 - kittygogo
This post just keeps getting better, next...
87 - Gary
I agree. The mindless, hate-filled posts are troubling. I found some more examples to add to your list Dave:
"The creatures who spew this vomit of lies, deception, slander and spite have come to seem almost Lovecraftian to me." -from Dave Nalle on Blogcritics
"I can imagine them in their dank cellars lit only by the glow of a computer screen, resting their pale-fleshed, webbed and cankerous feet on the mangled entrails of their victims, smoothing their matted and patchy hair with hands dripping the blood of children, and flicking drool from slack lips on the lichenous walls as they gibber in time to their claws clacking on the keyboard to type out another message of hate." -from Dave Nalle on Blogcritics
"I know they must not really look like this, but if form mirrored the soul they would have the hideous appearance of nightmare creatures Lovecraft only dreamt of." -from Dave Nalle on Blogcritics
"Society might be best served by bricking them up alive inside their foetid chambers, pulling their plugs and then starting over again in a world of rational discourse, having purged the most hate-filled and irrational from our midst." -from Dave Nalle on Blogcritics
Stay Classy Dave.
88 - Nick
Dave, isn't it a little sad when you have to rename yourself "Dan"for one sad little self-praising post? Much as I enjoy your tormented attempts at logic, I do draw the line at such a display of naked desperation to be loved! Also, if you vomit on your glasses, better not to advertise the fact too openly - it's hardly an elegant manoeuvre....
89 - Nick
Gary - do you really object to the idea of Dave purging the planet of his relatives? Actually, I am as troubled as you are by such brutal inhumanity, but then, I do in fact believe that kindness is better than terror! Call me irrational, if you like, but surely we should urge Dave towards self-preservation, since we do believe in openness, debate, free speech.. those old-fashioned values...
90 - Shark
I can vouch for Dan. He's not Nalle, and he is for real.
There is a similarity, tho: they're both capital "L" Libertarians -- and they both write like they've ingested too many Ayn Rand novels.
"Twas a dark and stormy internet thread..."
91 - Nick
Shark, my excellent liberal pinko brother, you can't blame me for confusing one incoherent, self-pitying rant with another, can you? I mean, if Dan ain't Dave, he certainly ought to be.... Meantime, let us hope that gentle therapy will aid these poor creatures stumbling dimly towards peace, happiness, and some sort of basic interior logic...
92 - kittygogo
The thing that kinda makes me laugh is I consider myself a liberal - no qualms about it, but I think that I am much more moderate than many of these so-called Libertarians. The Libertarians that I know, idealogically, I find that while the means to an opinion usually comes from a different perspective, I am usually in agreement on many issues. Perhaps because a true Libertarian is much more unbiased and learned than those poseurs on this board.
Whatever happened to the butt of this post anyways, did the water get too hot? It was so much fun with the irrational arguement. I tought poor Dave was just aching to shower us with his wisdom via a "mundane and informative article" (sounds thrilling, btw), in the attempt to get us to change our collective, irrational minds. Or does he only want to get into an arguement that he thinks he can win, which certainly is not the case with this group of folk. Recommendation: agreed, stick to the bbq articles, you are WAY out of your league here. Or perhaps just continue what you are doing now, finding another log to post your hate-mongering, right-wing agenda. I can be overly dramatic too, I'm just not as dependent on superfluous verbose. (there's some 25 cent words for ya'all.)
93 - Matthew T. Sussman
What's so odd about the Internet is that
there are a disproportionate number of card-carrying Libertarianspeople still talk about Dave Nalle 20 posts after he leaves.94 - godoggo
You'll all be pleased to know that I've located the VICIOUS INSTAPUNDIT BLOGROLL CONTEST entries.
More righty hate than you can shake a, ahem, stick at.
95 - Dave Nalle
>>I'll read your less-serious, non-political stuff later when I have the time -- I haven't seen it on the recent comments before because people don't seem to comment much on them for whatever reason. Take a deep breath and don't be so defensive :)<<
Babs, people don't comment on that kind of article because they aren't full of controversy and button pushing.
And why don't you take a deep breath and not be so offensive? I've been reading your constant petty attacks on Al Barger and I think they're pretty cheap and unfair.
Dave
96 - Dave Nalle
>>Dave, you never did answer my point though. If you are so disgusted by all of this politicizing, why are you taking part in it. If it is so stomach-churning to read the posts, why are you reading them? Why are you defending Bush if you are not interested in the political aspect of this?<<
I didn't say I wasn't interested, just that the hate sickened me. That doesn't necessarily drive me away forever. I realize that if I give up then the haters win, so I have to come back and fight for truth.
Dave
97 - Dave Nalle
>>I'm just glad I didn't make Dave's hit list -- considering all the times he's accused my factual articles of being "hate Bush" pieces. <<
While you are motivated by hate, it's clear that you step back for at least a moment and look for ways to use reason and fact to explain the conclusions your hatred leads you to. I have to respect that as being one step above total, blind irrational hatred - though you certainly feed it.
Dave
98 - godoggo
Dunno if I failed to post or was deleted for some reason, but.anyways, I managed to locate the entries, but, on second look, most of them seemed pretty much like typical political posts on Blogcritics. I'm quite serious.
99 - Dave Nalle
>>There is a similarity, tho: they're both capital "L" Libertarians -- and they both write like they've ingested too many Ayn Rand novels.<<
One Ayn Rand novel is too many, Shark.
Dave
100 - Dave Nalle
>>The thing that kinda makes me laugh is I consider myself a liberal - no qualms about it, but I think that I am much more moderate than many of these so-called Libertarians. <<
I'm willing to bet that you're a leftist, not a liberal.
>>Or does he only want to get into an arguement that he thinks he can win, which certainly is not the case with this group of folk. <<
Win what? There is no argument here. Iaid out the theme, and then got to sit back and watch the haters come and spew more hate. IT's kind of like a roach motel.
>>Recommendation: agreed, stick to the bbq articles, you are WAY out of your league here.<<
I know I'm slumming, but you have to go where the people who need your help are.
>> I'm just not as dependent on superfluous verbose. <<
In that sentence you want to use the noun 'verbosity' not the adjective 'verbose'.
Dave
101 - kittygogo
oh goodie, let the mundanity begin. dave's slumming!! Good word, huh? mundanity?
102 - Al Barger
Them's fightin' words, Dave. But then you knew that, and you should also recognize for the record that Atlas Shrugged was the greatest novel of the 20th century.
103 - Nick
Dave, that's just why I am here, to help you, my suffering one. Could you succinctly define leftist versus liberal? You seem awfully free with these terms! Mind you, I should like to see you define them coherently, given that each is a spectrum, not a narrow affiliation. Answers on a postcard please, Dave "not Dan really" Nalle... or you can use a blogspace....
104 - Dave Nalle
Godogo, not one of those Instapundit posts even comes close to the bits I quote in the article.
Dave
105 - kittygogo
Is a leftist more sex, drugs and rock-n-roll than a liberal? If so, I'm on board.
I had no idea you could get worse then a liberal, I'm assuming leftist is worse? Good thing I can't add lesbian to the mix, then I'd really be going to hell. (of course,there was that one time in college...)
106 - Nick
Kitty - was it you, in the darkened room? Or am I still able to pretend that I had a gay love-tryst? But I still don't know if I am liberal or leftist.. the resident sage of Nalle has yet to respond to our cries for a definition! How long, O Lord, how long? (*sobs, sniffles,soulful looks into the distance*)
107 - Dave Nalle
Kitty, there's nothing wrong with Liberals. I'm a liberal. But most of those who admit to being liberals today are leftists who don't know the difference between being a liberal and being a socialist with liberal leanings. I ought to do a little test like Shark does for this.
Dave
108 - Nick
Dave, are you sure you know the difference between leftist and liberal? Or are you just teasing us before the final strip reveals all? No definition - no credibility....
109 - kittygogo
huh???? 1. what the hell are you talking about? 2. you're liberal!?!?!
110 - Nick
Kitty - it wasn't you? Thank God! Liberal? Am I? Dunno.. I am not Dave the Definitional.. who I am to say that I am liberal? Or leftist? I might even accidentally be libertarian... Save us, God, from ourselves!
111 - Dave Nalle
Maybe you should tell me what you think a liberal is, Kitty. That's not a bad place to start.
Dave
112 - kittygogo
Maybe we are librarians, lobbyists or lubricants, certainly NOT losers though. That's for sure. I am SO very confused about what I should label myself. Maybe I am a label? I don't know.
113 - Bob A. Booey
You're too easily offended then.
I'll let the Senator's comment on "Atlas Shrugged" speak for itself and for him as a writer and thinker.
My comments toward people are never cheap and unfair, like say, this entire post was. My comments are always directly about the silly ideas and arguments the Senator has -- on the rare occasion he's been right (say about TV or The Doors), I've credited him for it. He just happens to prefer being a caricature and is afraid of me.
That is all.
114 - Dave Nalle
You left out 'lackwit', kitty.
Dave
115 - Nick
Dave, maybe you should admit you can't define leftist and liberal? After all, trying to shuffle the job off on kitty is a pretty obvious tactic! Shall we see a definition, Davey lad? Or are you going to pretend not to have read this post?
116 - John A. Conley
I not sure what the record is for the most comments on a single post, but Dave I think you may be making a serious run at it.
117 - kittygogo
Like I said, I consider myself LIBERAL, meaning I don't agree with spending money on a fake war. I think there are better ways to spend our time and money, in a socially responsible way. I really don't feel the need to subcategorize myself or obsess about the specifics of my idealogy to the point of labeling. Really, what difference does it make? Labels are for haters, dude.
118 - Bob A. Booey
Dude, John Conley. Check out the "Top 100 Guitarists" one ... the stoners who posted on there have made so many comments it takes like 2 minutes to load.
That is all.
119 - Dave Nalle
>>Dave, maybe you should admit you can't define leftist and liberal? After all, trying to shuffle the job off on kitty is a pretty obvious tactic! Shall we see a definition, Davey lad? Or are you going to pretend not to have read this post?<<
Nick, that makes it too easy for Kitty. I'll post the definitions once Kitty has a chance to demonstrate that he/she does or doesn't know what a liberal is.
Dave
120 - Matthew T. Sussman
Liberal? Isn't that the corporation that owns the media?
(Ducks and hides)
121 - Nick
Sussmann, do you realize that Weird Al has taken to posting in your name? That last post was unworthy of a witty, sophisticated individual! I hope you will repossess your nomenclature and denounce that shabby fraud! I know you would never take so cheap and obvious a shot...
122 - Matthew T. Sussman
It couldn't have been Weird Al. I take credit to the post, and my parents are still alive.
(Too soon?)
123 - Nick
Sussmann, please come home! Wierd Al continues to plfer your sacred name - and has now tried to pre-empt your excellent parents as well. Has the brute no respect? *Horrified*
124 - kittygogo
Dave, sorry, I didn't realize you were waiting for my def. of liberal. Here you go, I got it from dictionary.com:
designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
That's not the whole def., but I don't want to bore people who don't give a rat's ass. Like me for instance.
125 - Nick
Dave, looks like game on.. now, you were going to define liberal and leftist for us?